Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso

[socal74]

This doesnt move the needle at all for the Thunder...

Need to wait and see what the rest of their plans are....

But if their goal is to start Caruso thats a mistake... Thunders biggest problem was rebounding...If he starts its going to be a bunch of hobbits and Chet...

If he comes off the bench the trade makes sense since giddey wasnt doing much....

They basically got dort 2.0 who they should have traded last season... Maybe they trade him this season?

Anyways will be interesting to see the rest of the moves the Thunder make and what role they want Caruso to play....

They def need a big man who can gobble dem balls tho ya smell me?

If you think Caruso is similar to Dort then you have not watched him at all.

[SlovenianDragon]

This doesnt move the needle at all for the Thunder...

Need to wait and see what the rest of their plans are....

But if their goal is to start Caruso thats a mistake... Thunders biggest problem was rebounding...If he starts its going to be a bunch of hobbits and Chet...

If he comes off the bench the trade makes sense since giddey wasnt doing much....

They basically got dort 2.0 who they should have traded last season... Maybe they trade him this season?

Anyways will be interesting to see the rest of the moves the Thunder make and what role they want Caruso to play....

They def need a big man who can gobble dem balls tho ya smell me?

If you think Caruso is similar to Dort then you have not watched him at all.

Nah Caruso is an overhyped Dort...

They are in the same tier.

If you cant see it try watching some games.

[Camby_Bamby]

The only way this trade makes sense is if Caruso is literally the Anti-Christ or some ****. Lol.

Nothing about this makes sense.

Really, wow ok nice comment

Not sure if anyone in the Bulls FO has commented yet, but my explanation would be more palatable to the basketball community than someone pulling the trigger on this trade based on ‘value’.

[___Rand___]

Take a look at his Free Throws, he just can't get to the line enough to make up for his mid shooting.

Yeah I know. His shooting is off. His shooting is kinda raw like Pascal was at the start, but not as bad. Look at his vision though. He's 21. If he works at it, his shooting can be acceptable in 2-3 years' time. Bulls are going nowhere next couple of years.

what vision? The simple passes every other pg makes? He's a slow footed non shooting big who passes the ball like Ben Simmons except Ben was athletic and an excellent defender

Dude watch the games.

[Lo Wang]

Yeah, gonna have to say this is more about your point not really being valid. You called the pushback a strawman, but your entire point was that if the bulls could build up a non shooter like lonzo, they could build up a non shooter like Giddey.

Showing lonzo was clearly already a shooter before arriving in Chicago directly blows up your point.

How is shooting 47% and 33% on 3s a non shooter? He's not Curry, but those aren't bad percentages when you take into consideration he shoots 54% and 40% on 3s when he's running the offense, which he will when he's on the Bulls.

And i still fail to see how anybody thinks we should have gotten a better 21 year old prospect than that. Will he need to improve in some areas to end up being worth while? Yes.

But for a 30 year old role player with 1 year left on his deal, were we supposed to get Ant-Man for him? Were we supposed to get the #1 overall pick next week? Maybe we should have asked for SGA instead

Back during the deadline, when Caruso had 2 potential playoff runs left on his deal not 1, Kuminga wasn't even on the table for him. And is Kuminga a better prospect than Giddey? Giddey has 11 career triple doubles. Kuminga doesn't even have that many career Double doubles.

Of course whoever we got was gonna have some flaws that need to be improved. We were trading Alex Caruso not LeBron James.

What's crazy about this trade was initially the Bulls wanted 4 unprotected draft picks for Caruso, but somehow, after 18 months of negotiations, Presti was able to convince them to do a straight up trade for Giddey.

This is good news for both sides.

The Bulls saw how good they were with a capable PG when they finished 6th in the standings in 2021-2022. I think initially they were going to rebuild when they were shopping Lavine and Derozan, but with Giddey, there is a good chance they will run it one more time. This is exciting for the Bulls because that is a solid lineup (Giddey, Coby, Voosh, Lavine) with a great coach in Donovan. I can see this team cracking 45 wins and possibly 50.

Note* This is all guesswork. I could be wrong and they might be rebuilding.

[RoxSteady]

Read on Twitter

[Lo Wang]

These guys are really good. They present both views: Giddy Haters vs Pro Giddey.

https://www.youtube.com/live/DPrTvE8WoTI?si=Sw9_UWq9ZsyKbsPj

[Dan Z]

How is shooting 47% and 33% on 3s a non shooter? He's not Curry, but those aren't bad percentages when you take into consideration he shoots 54% and 40% on 3s when he's running the offense, which he will when he's on the Bulls.

And i still fail to see how anybody thinks we should have gotten a better 21 year old prospect than that. Will he need to improve in some areas to end up being worth while? Yes.

But for a 30 year old role player with 1 year left on his deal, were we supposed to get Ant-Man for him? Were we supposed to get the #1 overall pick next week? Maybe we should have asked for SGA instead

Back during the deadline, when Caruso had 2 potential playoff runs left on his deal not 1, Kuminga wasn't even on the table for him. And is Kuminga a better prospect than Giddey? Giddey has 11 career triple doubles. Kuminga doesn't even have that many career Double doubles.

Of course whoever we got was gonna have some flaws that need to be improved. We were trading Alex Caruso not LeBron James.

What's crazy about this trade was initially the Bulls wanted 4 unprotected draft picks for Caruso, but somehow, after 18 months of negotiations, Presti was able to convince them to do a straight up trade for Giddey.

This is good news for both sides.

The Bulls saw how good they were with a capable PG when they finished 6th in the standings in 2021-2022. I think initially they were going to rebuild when they were shopping Lavine and Derozan, but with Giddey, there is a good chance they will run it one more time. This is exciting for the Bulls because that is a solid lineup (Giddey, Coby, Voosh, Lavine, White) with a great coach in Donovan. I can see this team cracking 45 wins and possibly 50.

Note* This is all guesswork. I could be wrong and they might be rebuilding.

I hope they are rebuilding. That's a lineup going nowhere.

I don't buy that the Bulls really asked for 4 picks for Caruso, but if they did it's because AK didn't want to trade him. Had he traded him last deadline I'm sure he was worth more, but he wanted to continue to push for the playoffs.

[Dominator83]

How is shooting 47% and 33% on 3s a non shooter? He's not Curry, but those aren't bad percentages when you take into consideration he shoots 54% and 40% on 3s when he's running the offense, which he will when he's on the Bulls.

And i still fail to see how anybody thinks we should have gotten a better 21 year old prospect than that. Will he need to improve in some areas to end up being worth while? Yes.

But for a 30 year old role player with 1 year left on his deal, were we supposed to get Ant-Man for him? Were we supposed to get the #1 overall pick next week? Maybe we should have asked for SGA instead

Back during the deadline, when Caruso had 2 potential playoff runs left on his deal not 1, Kuminga wasn't even on the table for him. And is Kuminga a better prospect than Giddey? Giddey has 11 career triple doubles. Kuminga doesn't even have that many career Double doubles.

Of course whoever we got was gonna have some flaws that need to be improved. We were trading Alex Caruso not LeBron James.

What's crazy about this trade was initially the Bulls wanted 4 unprotected draft picks for Caruso, but somehow, after 18 months of negotiations, Presti was able to convince them to do a straight up trade for Giddey.

This is good news for both sides.

The Bulls saw how good they were with a capable PG when they finished 6th in the standings in 2021-2022. I think initially they were going to rebuild when they were shopping Lavine and Derozan, but with Giddey, there is a good chance they will run it one more time. This is exciting for the Bulls because that is a solid lineup (Giddey, Coby, Voosh, Lavine, White) with a great coach in Donovan. I can see this team cracking 45 wins and possibly 50.

Note* This is all guesswork. I could be wrong and they might be rebuilding.

Ehh. I prefer they keep blowing it up and find trades like this for the mid 3 guys

[MrTribbiani]

I get that some Bulls fans are upset because Josh is considered "problematic," (even though he isn't) and he is a flawed player; however, Caruso is replaceable.

It's funny how players that are considered fan favorites are frequently viewed through rose colored glasses.

Well he's an all world defender. You probably still think of him as that balding bench player on the Lakers who dunked on KD. He's way past that.

He's still replaceable.

[Lo Wang]

Ehh. I prefer they keep blowing it up and find trades like this for the mid 3 guys

If they can shop Lavine for a knock down young 3 point shooter, that's a deadly squad. They can draft another big and experiment for a year. I like your team and rooting for them.

[MavsDirk41]

How is shooting 47% and 33% on 3s a non shooter? He's not Curry, but those aren't bad percentages when you take into consideration he shoots 54% and 40% on 3s when he's running the offense, which he will when he's on the Bulls.

And i still fail to see how anybody thinks we should have gotten a better 21 year old prospect than that. Will he need to improve in some areas to end up being worth while? Yes.

But for a 30 year old role player with 1 year left on his deal, were we supposed to get Ant-Man for him? Were we supposed to get the #1 overall pick next week? Maybe we should have asked for SGA instead

Back during the deadline, when Caruso had 2 potential playoff runs left on his deal not 1, Kuminga wasn't even on the table for him. And is Kuminga a better prospect than Giddey? Giddey has 11 career triple doubles. Kuminga doesn't even have that many career Double doubles.

Of course whoever we got was gonna have some flaws that need to be improved. We were trading Alex Caruso not LeBron James.

What's crazy about this trade was initially the Bulls wanted 4 unprotected draft picks for Caruso, but somehow, after 18 months of negotiations, Presti was able to convince them to do a straight up trade for Giddey.

This is good news for both sides.

The Bulls saw how good they were with a capable PG when they finished 6th in the standings in 2021-2022. I think initially they were going to rebuild when they were shopping Lavine and Derozan, but with Giddey, there is a good chance they will run it one more time. This is exciting for the Bulls because that is a solid lineup (Giddey, Coby, Voosh, Lavine, White) with a great coach in Donovan. I can see this team cracking 45 wins and possibly 50.

Note* This is all guesswork. I could be wrong and they might be rebuilding.

Start Giddey and Lavine. Have Coby come off the bench as a combo guard. He isnt a point guard. But yea Bulls might run it back if they arent getting any decent offers for Lavine.

[Narigo]

This doesnt move the needle at all for the Thunder...

Need to wait and see what the rest of their plans are....

But if their goal is to start Caruso thats a mistake... Thunders biggest problem was rebounding...If he starts its going to be a bunch of hobbits and Chet...

If he comes off the bench the trade makes sense since giddey wasnt doing much....

They basically got dort 2.0 who they should have traded last season... Maybe they trade him this season?

Anyways will be interesting to see the rest of the moves the Thunder make and what role they want Caruso to play....

They def need a big man who can gobble dem balls tho ya smell me?

If you think Caruso is similar to Dort then you have not watched him at all.

Nah Caruso is an overhyped Dort...

They are in the same tier.

If you cant see it try watching some games.

Nah. Caruso was the Bulls best player last year. He carried our defense. If I recall, the bulls had a top 12 defense when he was on the floor and was the worst defense in the league when he went to the bench

[LaLover11]

Would've been nice to have Caruso vs Nuggets and Murray

[jehosafats]

Caruso went from sunny Los Angeles to blustery Chicago to ...Oklahoma city.

[Dan Z]

Caruso went from sunny Los Angeles to blustery Chicago to ...Oklahoma city.

He also went from an undrafted player, to a two way contract, then a two year contract and then a four year deal with the Bulls. Along the way he was all-nba defense twice and is now on a team that's a championship contender.

I'd say that's pretty good.

EDIT: He also won a championship in 2020.

[Black Jack]

Giddey has flaws but this does feel a bit like letting Harden go where you have a young talented guard then let him go. I do wonder if one day OKC will regret this one day.

Obviously Giddey has to do a lot to improve his game to make that case, specifically shooting/scoring.

[DaddyCool19]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270150/Bulls-Reportedly-Looking-For-Two-First-Round-Picks-For-Alex-Caruso

I don't buy the 4 first round picks news .

[Doranku]

I think people are too high on Caruso and too low on Giddey. Caruso is great when he's on the court, the problem is that isn't very often and he's now on the wrong side of 30.

Giddey is a 21 year old 6'8 guard that averaged 17/8/6 in his 2nd year. If he develops a consistent 3-point shot (which is obviously a big if, but also very do-able), he will be an all-star.

[atlantabbq99]

Rumor is that Giddy has professionalism problems. He just doesn't have enough talent to over look his immaturity