Superior defender: MJ or LeBron?

Special_Puppy · Post #61 » by **Special_Puppy** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:46 am

Rust_Cohle wrote:Lebron fell off hard defensively after 2013 overall (although 2016 was good)

Last 8 years or so he has given up on that end.

That seems kinda crazy to say. He's always been a plus-defender although nothing to write home about

Special_Puppy · Post #62 » by **Special_Puppy** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:47 am

fanofthegreats wrote:
ChiTownHero1992 wrote:This should not even be a comparison or discussion...come on...

Why? Mountains of evidence to indicate LeBron was a more impactful defender in his prime.

Honestly curious which evidence indicates this?

CobraCommander · Post #63 » by **CobraCommander** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:12 am

This is a question of your age- anyone that saw both of them play would never say Lebron

No one - that saw them both says Lebron

D.Brasco · Post #64 » by **D.Brasco** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:24 am

*Not an actual argument, just a cool photo of LeBron blocking a 7 footer.

ScrantonBulls · Post #65 » by **ScrantonBulls** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:27 am

D.Brasco wrote:

*Not an actual argument, just a cool photo of LeBron blocking a 7 footer.

This is obviously fake news AI generated by Klutch to advance the LeBron James GOAT Replacement Theory. Nice try, Brasco. We're not going to fall for it.

LaLover11 · Post #66 » by **LaLover11** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:35 am

LeBron is the greatest fast break defender of all time!
He's also the most versatile that guarded MVP Rose, Durant, PG, Zion, Jokic

That's something MJ could never do!

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MavsDirk41 · Post #67 » by **MavsDirk41** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:43 am

fanofthegreats wrote:
ChiTownHero1992 wrote:This should not even be a comparison or discussion...come on...

Why? Mountains of evidence to indicate LeBron was a more impactful defender in his prime.

Why dont you share the mountains of evidence

ScrantonBulls · Post #68 » by **ScrantonBulls** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:49 am

MavsDirk41 wrote:
fanofthegreats wrote:
ChiTownHero1992 wrote:This should not even be a comparison or discussion...come on...

Why? Mountains of evidence to indicate LeBron was a more impactful defender in his prime.

Why dont you share the mountains of evidence

Why would you care? Even if he posted mountains of very credible evidence, you literally wouldn't care and it wouldn't change your mind. You love your guy and will defend him at all costs, facts be damned. It would be a waste of his time.

dbrog24 · Post #69 » by **dbrog24** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:51 am

Bron was the better help defender...elite honestly. MJ was significantly better man defender, also elite

ScrantonBulls · Post #70 » by **ScrantonBulls** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:57 am

I didn't vote in the poll because I think it's close and was hoping to see some good arguments before voting. MJ winning 98 to 37 currently. Running away with the vote! I thought it would be closer. I wonder who would win the poll "who is the better passer?"

MavsDirk41 · Post #71 » by **MavsDirk41** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:57 am

ScrantonBulls wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
fanofthegreats wrote:
Why? Mountains of evidence to indicate LeBron was a more impactful defender in his prime.

Why dont you share the mountains of evidence

Why would you care? Even if he posted mountains of very credible evidence, you literally wouldn't care and it wouldn't change your mind. You love your guy and will defend him at all costs, facts be damned. It would be a waste of his time.

Lol funny that you say stuff like that and everyone on here knows you were TajFTW and you are absolutely without a doubt a lebron james super fan boy. You disguise yourself as a Bulls fan and there was a Caruso/Giddey trade discussion on here and i didnt see you on there lol! I probably know more about the Bulls than you. You are fooling no one kid. And by the way, if i were starting a team from scratch im taking Larry Bird over any player, Jordan included. Go back to watching Space Jam 2 and enjoy your summer break from school. Have a nice day!

ScrantonBulls · Post #72 » by **ScrantonBulls** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:00 am

MavsDirk41 wrote:
ScrantonBulls wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:

Why dont you share the mountains of evidence

Why would you care? Even if he posted mountains of very credible evidence, you literally wouldn't care and it wouldn't change your mind. You love your guy and will defend him at all costs, facts be damned. It would be a waste of his time.

Lol funny that you say stuff like that and everyone on here knows you were TajFTW and you are absolutely without a doubt a lebron james super fan boy. You disguise yourself as a Bulls fan and there was a Caruso/Giddey trade discussion on here and i didnt see you on there lol! I probably know more about the Bulls than you. You are fooling no one kid. And by the way, if i were starting a team from scratch im taking Larry Bird over any player, Jordan included. Go back to watching Space Jam 2 and enjoy your summer break from school. Have a nice day!

Search for threads made by me in the Bulls forum, son. There's plenty. This is ironic coming from you considering you never post about the Mavs.

MavsDirk41 · Post #73 » by **MavsDirk41** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:17 am

ScrantonBulls wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
ScrantonBulls wrote:Why would you care? Even if he posted mountains of very credible evidence, you literally wouldn't care and it wouldn't change your mind. You love your guy and will defend him at all costs, facts be damned. It would be a waste of his time.

Lol funny that you say stuff like that and everyone on here knows you were TajFTW and you are absolutely without a doubt a lebron james super fan boy. You disguise yourself as a Bulls fan and there was a Caruso/Giddey trade discussion on here and i didnt see you on there lol! I probably know more about the Bulls than you. You are fooling no one kid. And by the way, if i were starting a team from scratch im taking Larry Bird over any player, Jordan included. Go back to watching Space Jam 2 and enjoy your summer break from school. Have a nice day!

Search for threads made by me in the Bulls forum, son. There's plenty. This is ironic coming from you considering you never post about the Mavs.

I post on here about the Mavs and other topics i find interesting. I dont go in any particular team forum. Nice try though pal. Maybe learn to quit with the insults just because some people on here disagree with you about James? I gaurantee you that if you never respond to one of my post again i will never respond back to you and that would be awesome.

fanofthegreats · Post #74 » by **fanofthegreats** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:23 am

MavsDirk41 wrote:
fanofthegreats wrote:
ChiTownHero1992 wrote:This should not even be a comparison or discussion...come on...

Why? Mountains of evidence to indicate LeBron was a more impactful defender in his prime.

Why dont you share the mountains of evidence

No thanks- I don’t waste actual basketball discussion with trolls.

fanofthegreats · Post #75 » by **fanofthegreats** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:25 am

ScrantonBulls wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
fanofthegreats wrote:
Why? Mountains of evidence to indicate LeBron was a more impactful defender in his prime.

Why dont you share the mountains of evidence

Why would you care? Even if he posted mountains of very credible evidence, you literally wouldn't care and it wouldn't change your mind. You love your guy and will defend him at all costs, facts be damned. It would be a waste of his time.

Exactly- instead of that troll going after the MJ fanboys nonsensical takes “ this is insulting to Jordan blah blah blah”, he goes after my very reasonable take that LeBron has demonstrated being a more impactful defender in his prime. Dude is a waste of time.

Myth · Post #76 » by **Myth** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:25 am

LeBron had the ability to be the better defender, but Jordan had the drive and stamina to defend well more consistently. I choose Jordan as I want guys with the motor to do it on a more ongoing basis.

MavsDirk41 · Post #77 » by **MavsDirk41** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:31 am

fanofthegreats wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
fanofthegreats wrote:
Why? Mountains of evidence to indicate LeBron was a more impactful defender in his prime.

Why dont you share the mountains of evidence

No thanks- I don’t waste actual basketball discussion with trolls.

I cant believe you were a mod before. Ive never seen you post anything intelligent on here before.

fanofthegreats · Post #78 » by **fanofthegreats** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:33 am

MavsDirk41 wrote:
fanofthegreats wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:

Why dont you share the mountains of evidence

No thanks- I don’t waste actual basketball discussion with trolls.

I cant believe you were a mod before. Ive never seen you post anything intelligent on here before.

I take that as a compliment coming from you.

MavsDirk41 · Post #79 » by **MavsDirk41** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:36 am

fanofthegreats wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
fanofthegreats wrote:
No thanks- I don’t waste actual basketball discussion with trolls.

I cant believe you were a mod before. Ive never seen you post anything intelligent on here before.

I take that as a compliment coming from you.

I asked you for the mountains of evidence and you called me a troll lol? You really proved your point. Great job! You showed me.

Iwasawitness · Post #80 » by **Iwasawitness** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:42 am

CobraCommander wrote:This is a question of your age- anyone that saw both of them play would never say Lebron

No one - that saw them both says Lebron

I've seen them both play and I still say LeBron.

As well as multiple people in this thread. Let's stop with baseless statements like this that have no validity. We can do better than that.