Mitchell Robinson to OKC

[babyjax13]

OKC trades: Jaylin Williams, 4 2nds
NYK trades: Mitchell Robinson

After missing out on Gafford OKC grabs a different defensive center, especially if Hartenstein is resigning. New York drops some salary at the center spot and adds 2nds.

[Skybox]

OKC says “we’ll just add a couple mil to our offer for Hart before we’ll pay anything for Robinson”

[daoneandonly]

Don't think Mitchell is worth his contract given his skill and availability issues. If I were okc, I'd pass

[_GH0ST_]

I would prefer a healthier and cheaper option like Drummond.

[ThunderBolt]

I like a healthy Mitchell Robinson. I'm just not sure that player exists.

[R-DAWG]

I don't see why Robinson isn't worth the same 1st rd pick that Gafford is worth.

Also - the Hartenstein thing has long term effects. I don't see Hartenstein taking a Bruce Brown style contract for a reduced role, which will hurt his next contract and result in potentially fewer total dollars.

[Godaddycurse]

I don't see why Robinson isn't worth the same 1st rd pick that Gafford is worth.

Also - the Hartenstein thing has long term effects. I don't see Hartenstein taking a Bruce Brown style contract for a reduced role, which will hurt his next contract and result in potentially fewer total dollars.

Gafford is much more durable

[Texas Chuck]

I don't see why Robinson isn't worth the same 1st rd pick that Gafford is worth.

The reason would be health, right? Gafford is missing < 10 games a year. Robinson only managed that once.

Now I'm not saying he can't get some sort of protected first. Maybe he can. He's an effective player when available. But I do think health hurts his trade value.

And so if I'm the Knicks, I'd rather keep him unless I needed him for matching for an upgrade. Would rather have another good center with Hartenstein even knowing he's going to miss games. Just hope the injury doesn't happen at playoff time again.

[Skybox]

I get why someone wouldn't pay much for Robinson, given his durability...but I also question why NYK, who expect to be legit contenders, would give up a legitimately important player, even if limited by injury or now in a backup role, for scraps...do the $$ savings really matter to NY. Having Robinson as your starting and only real Center is terrifying...having him as your backup, even in limited minutes, is terrifying to the opponent.

[Magic_Johnny12]

What does Mitchell Robinson do that Andre Drummond who’s a FA can’t do? Serious question.

I don’t personally think Robinsons contract is perceived as a positive one and NY would have to add assets to move at this point.

[Texas Chuck]

What does Mitchell Robinson do that Andre Drummond who’s a FA can’t do? Serious question.

I don’t personally think Robinsons contract is perceived as a positive one and NY would have to add assets to move at this point.

He defends much better. He's a better vertical threat. What you mean is Drummond sucks up rebounds and tricks you into thinking he's a better player because of it. There is a reason Drummond has been living on min contracts since his max deal expired.

[R-DAWG]

I don't see why Robinson isn't worth the same 1st rd pick that Gafford is worth.

The reason would be health, right? Gafford is missing < 10 games a year. Robinson only managed that once.

Now I'm not saying he can't get some sort of protected first. Maybe he can. He's an effective player when available. But I do think health hurts his trade value.

And so if I'm the Knicks, I'd rather keep him unless I needed him for matching for an upgrade. Would rather have another good center with Hartenstein even knowing he's going to miss games. Just hope the injury doesn't happen at playoff time again.

I agree here. I'd trade Mitch for a 1st to replace the future Dallas 1st that we have this year. And then use that pick for a center and resign Achewia for depth.

But NY can figure out Mitch/I-Hart from a payroll perspective next year before Brunson's extension kicks in, so for this year you either trade him for value or keep him

[cgf]

I'd hope the Knicks passed on this. Mitch does a lot more for us than those second round picks and I'm not sure Jaylin gets PT over Precious or Jericho.

[cgf]

What does Mitchell Robinson do that Andre Drummond who’s a FA can’t do? Serious question.

I don’t personally think Robinsons contract is perceived as a positive one and NY would have to add assets to move at this point.

Drummond is a hideous defender, while Robinson is an absolute monster defensively...he's also a better lob threat and he gets away with setting harder screens. Both are great offensive rebounders, and Dre has that pirate look down to a tee, but their offensive rebound #s are the extent of their similarities.

Mitch's contract is absolutely not a problem for NY, so there is very little chance that the knicks would even respond to a call asking them to add assets to move him. If that means getting to keep this team's awesome center depth and one of the league's better defensive anchors on a descending contract that paid him average starting center money when it started, then so be it.

[cgf]

I don't see why Robinson isn't worth the same 1st rd pick that Gafford is worth.

Also - the Hartenstein thing has long term effects. I don't see Hartenstein taking a Bruce Brown style contract for a reduced role, which will hurt his next contract and result in potentially fewer total dollars.

Gafford is much more durable

True, but Gafford also isn't in the same sphere as a rim protector or offensive rebounder. If just need someone you can rely on for big minutes, I get favoring Gafford, but if you have a quality backup and need someone who can make more of a difference when on the court, that's Mitch.

[Godaddycurse]

I don't see why Robinson isn't worth the same 1st rd pick that Gafford is worth.

Also - the Hartenstein thing has long term effects. I don't see Hartenstein taking a Bruce Brown style contract for a reduced role, which will hurt his next contract and result in potentially fewer total dollars.

Gafford is much more durable

True, but Gafford also isn't in the same sphere as a rim protector or offensive rebounder. If just need someone you can rely on for big minutes, I get favoring Gafford, but if you have a quality backup and need someone who can make more of a difference when on the court, that's Mitch.

their block % are pretty similar to date. i am skeptical about robinson being able to maintain his numbers the more toll there is on his body from various injuries

[cgf]

Gafford is much more durable

True, but Gafford also isn't in the same sphere as a rim protector or offensive rebounder. If just need someone you can rely on for big minutes, I get favoring Gafford, but if you have a quality backup and need someone who can make more of a difference when on the court, that's Mitch.

their block % are pretty similar to date. i am skeptical about robinson being able to maintain his numbers the more toll there is on his body from various injuries

Eh. iHart’s block%s are even better but he’s still not as much of a defensive difference maker as Mitch. We had a top 10 defense when Mitch got hurt, by the time of the OG trade that had dropped to a bottom 10 unit.