Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso

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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#461 » by lethalizer » Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:28 pm

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lethalizer wrote:This thread will be very fun to look back to once the NBA season starts and Giddey plays for a big market team like the Bulls.

His inefficiency and poor defence will make the rounds a lot over here compared to his stint with the Thunder.

Just a heads up Bulls fans: When you see Giddey attempt a floater, never assume it will go in. You will avoid the headaches if that's your stance moving forward.

Signed, a Thunder fan.


As a Thunder fan, I think Thunder fans are so annoying (this is not a personal attack and just your opinions are annoying). Realgm non Thunder fans > Thunder fans. What does that say about you when non fans know more about your team than you do? You guys are such Giddey haters it's becoming unbearable.


I know you're just trolling looking around in this thread a bit, but i'll leave you with this, hence the words I typed:

Giddey attempted 303 shots from 3 to 10 feet last season. His percentage? 42.6.

That is next level inefficiency. What's even more wild is he attempted more 3 to 10 feet shots compared to his attempts at the rim, where he was 67.2 percent on 256 attempts.

It's like the man willingly wants to be an inefficient basketball player, I have no other explanations at this point.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#462 » by Lo Wang » Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:53 pm

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lethalizer wrote:This thread will be very fun to look back to once the NBA season starts and Giddey plays for a big market team like the Bulls.

His inefficiency and poor defence will make the rounds a lot over here compared to his stint with the Thunder.

Just a heads up Bulls fans: When you see Giddey attempt a floater, never assume it will go in. You will avoid the headaches if that's your stance moving forward.

Signed, a Thunder fan.


As a Thunder fan, I think Thunder fans are so annoying (this is not a personal attack and just your opinions are annoying). Realgm non Thunder fans > Thunder fans. What does that say about you when non fans know more about your team than you do? You guys are such Giddey haters it's becoming unbearable.


I know you're just trolling looking around in this thread a bit, but i'll leave you with this, hence the words I typed:

Giddey attempted 303 shots from 3 to 10 feet last season. His percentage? 42.6.

That is next level inefficiency. What's even more wild is he attempted more 3 to 10 feet shots compared to his attempts at the rim, where he was 67.2 percent on 256 attempts.

It's like the man willingly wants to be an inefficient basketball player, I have no other explanations at this point.


Just because you don't like an opinion it doesn't mean that person is trolling. I have responded to every post with a legit argument while making sure I am respectable in every way. The only time I have been critical is when I'm criticizing Thunder fans, but guess what, I'm a Thunder fan, so really, I'm poking fun at myself.

You're the only person calling people names (which is ok with me because I can care less), but it just shows how immature you are for not engaging in the debate.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#463 » by DuallyNoted » Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:08 pm

lethalizer wrote:
Lo Wang wrote:
lethalizer wrote:This thread will be very fun to look back to once the NBA season starts and Giddey plays for a big market team like the Bulls.

His inefficiency and poor defence will make the rounds a lot over here compared to his stint with the Thunder.

Just a heads up Bulls fans: When you see Giddey attempt a floater, never assume it will go in. You will avoid the headaches if that's your stance moving forward.

Signed, a Thunder fan.


As a Thunder fan, I think Thunder fans are so annoying (this is not a personal attack and just your opinions are annoying). Realgm non Thunder fans > Thunder fans. What does that say about you when non fans know more about your team than you do? You guys are such Giddey haters it's becoming unbearable.


I know you're just trolling looking around in this thread a bit, but i'll leave you with this, hence the words I typed:

Giddey attempted 303 shots from 3 to 10 feet last season. His percentage? 42.6.

That is next level inefficiency. What's even more wild is he attempted more 3 to 10 feet shots compared to his attempts at the rim, where he was 67.2 percent on 256 attempts.

It's like the man willingly wants to be an inefficient basketball player, I have no other explanations at this point.

This BTW would be higher than Jayson Tatum's field goal % from 3 to 10 in 5 out of his 7 seasons. Next time you cherry pick, make sure it's a ripe one
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#464 » by dawhizz » Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:43 pm

lethalizer wrote:This thread will be very fun to look back to once the NBA season starts and Giddey plays for a big market team like the Bulls.

His inefficiency and poor defence will make the rounds a lot over here compared to his stint with the Thunder.

Just a heads up Bulls fans: When you see Giddey attempt a floater, never assume it will go in. You will avoid the headaches if that's your stance moving forward.

Signed, a Thunder fan.


Enjoy Caruso’s near-constant “questionable (toe)” statuses.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#465 » by Johnny Bball » Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:46 pm

Its always fun to watch an entire fanbase turn on a player the moment he's traded.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#466 » by slick_watts » Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:47 pm

giddey's biggest problem in the mid-range and at the rim despite mediocre finishing is that he is not getting to the line either. comparing his fg% from 3-10 feet to jayson tatum is silly.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#467 » by watpho71 » Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:57 pm

BigGargamel wrote:
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watpho71 wrote:Good trade for both teams. Caruso instantly makes any team better. Giddey needed a new home.
It's a home run for OKC if Caruso has a decently healthy season / throughout the post season. Of course he's been injury prone, so who knows. But on paper Caruso is an awesome basketball fit.

Does Chicago just see this as a flyer? Because if so they sure shipped out presumably a pretty highly valued asset to get him. Is DeRozan still going to be there? How does as Giddey/White/LaVine/DeRozan lineup work? Who is guarding the perimeter there?

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I see the Bulls resigning DeRozan and dumping LaVine, even if they have to simply give him away. Giddey/White/DeRozan/Vucevic and maybe someone who can actually play power forward.



You're speaking as if the Bulls' title hopes were just crushed. Caruso is on a contract year and we have all seen players disappear down that rabbit hole with the team getting nothing back in return. Giddey is only twenty-one years old and has shown upside and holds value. He might just end up being a piece that is moved later. This is not a flyer. The Bulls' mediocrity was on a downward spiral. This is the beginning of the renovation. Of course we have heard mutual respect between the Bulls and DeRozan, but he should be able to find a better situation. Guarding the perimeter is only one of many problems in Chicago.
It's good to see Alex get an opportunity with a contending team, it's where he belongs, and may health be with him.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#468 » by lethalizer » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:12 pm

DuallyNoted wrote:
lethalizer wrote:
Lo Wang wrote:
As a Thunder fan, I think Thunder fans are so annoying (this is not a personal attack and just your opinions are annoying). Realgm non Thunder fans > Thunder fans. What does that say about you when non fans know more about your team than you do? You guys are such Giddey haters it's becoming unbearable.


I know you're just trolling looking around in this thread a bit, but i'll leave you with this, hence the words I typed:

Giddey attempted 303 shots from 3 to 10 feet last season. His percentage? 42.6.

That is next level inefficiency. What's even more wild is he attempted more 3 to 10 feet shots compared to his attempts at the rim, where he was 67.2 percent on 256 attempts.

It's like the man willingly wants to be an inefficient basketball player, I have no other explanations at this point.

This BTW would be higher than Jayson Tatum's field goal % from 3 to 10 in 5 out of his 7 seasons. Next time you cherry pick, make sure it's a ripe one


I sincerely hope this is a joke.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#469 » by lethalizer » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:14 pm

dawhizz wrote:
lethalizer wrote:This thread will be very fun to look back to once the NBA season starts and Giddey plays for a big market team like the Bulls.

His inefficiency and poor defence will make the rounds a lot over here compared to his stint with the Thunder.

Just a heads up Bulls fans: When you see Giddey attempt a floater, never assume it will go in. You will avoid the headaches if that's your stance moving forward.

Signed, a Thunder fan.


Enjoy Caruso’s near-constant “questionable (toe)” statuses.


He missed 25 games combined in the last two seasons. Think I can live with that, so thank you, I will!
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#470 » by The Servant » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:18 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:Its always fun to watch an entire fanbase turn on a player the moment he's traded.


I was pro Giddey before the season, luke warm at the trade deadline, and then over it in the yoffs. He is just a self check on the 3 point line, and if he drives its a 45%ish contested floater, and those possessions felt like a huge waste. They give up the 3 to Giddey knowing that clogging the paint is more efficient than him shooting uncontested 3s.

It also just didn't feel good watching him take a 50/50 heave near the post. It reminded me of Dwight Howard non dunk post ups. I'd much rather have an SGA or Jdub drive and sometimes the defense would just offer up Giddey drives because the points per possession were their best plays. I wanted more minutes for Cason Wallace and now we get more Cason/Caruso. Just need a good PF or back up big.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#471 » by Sixers in 4 » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:31 pm

He needs time for development that the Thunder just don't have right now and he isn't overly valuable because he needs to be extended.

That doesn't mean he won't be a good player at some point. The issue for me is OKC is full of younger Caruso's. I thought they should have used Giddey to move up for a legit starter to help SGA along the lines of Jimmy they could still.

Riley probably didn't want Giddey so if it's a move for another move then I understand otherwise it's a headscratcher. Wallace has a similar profile and so much more upside.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#472 » by Lo Wang » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:56 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:Its always fun to watch an entire fanbase turn on a player the moment he's traded.


No they wanted him gone. The vitriol they displayed towards him was so egregious they chased him out of town, well, not literally chased him out of town, but he did ask for a trade. Even when he's gone and we got a great asset in return, they're still hating on him. Like literally if they were abducted by some crazy man, taken to a torture chamber, get tortured for a whole week, and then returned back home, they would still think what Giddey did to them was worse. What did he do? He choked in the playoffs. That's it. They're acting like other players didn't choke, and he burnt the Bible or something.

Their excuse is they want him gone because they want him to "succeed," which is hilarious because Giddey would be the first player in history the fanbase wants him traded so he can be better elsewhere.

*Note I'm a Thunder fan and I have a lot of love for the Thunder family, but they're just being overly irrational with this whole Giddey drama.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Carus 

Post#473 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:22 pm

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Johnny Bball wrote:Its always fun to watch an entire fanbase turn on a player the moment he's traded.


No they wanted him gone. The vitriol they displayed towards him was so egregious they chased him out of town, well, not literally chased him out of town, but he did ask for a trade. Even when he's gone and we got a great asset in return, they're still hating on him. Like literally if they were abducted by some crazy man, taken to a torture chamber, get tortured for a whole week, and then returned back home, they would still think what Giddey did to them was worse. What did he do? He choked in the playoffs. That's it. They're acting like other players didn't choke, and he burnt the Bible or something.

Their excuse is they want him gone because they want him to "succeed," which is hilarious because Giddey would be the first player in history the fanbase wants him traded so he can be better elsewhere. I swear there must be some water contaminants in the state of Oklahoma.

*Note I'm a Thunder fan and I have a lot of love for the Thunder family, but they're just being overly irrational with this whole Giddey drama.

Where the heck are you getting your info from? I’ve never seen you post on the thunder board. Most thunder fans just think Giddey wasn’t a good fit but thats the extent of it.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Carus 

Post#474 » by Lo Wang » Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:37 pm

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Lo Wang wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:Its always fun to watch an entire fanbase turn on a player the moment he's traded.


No they wanted him gone. The vitriol they displayed towards him was so egregious they chased him out of town, well, not literally chased him out of town, but he did ask for a trade. Even when he's gone and we got a great asset in return, they're still hating on him. Like literally if they were abducted by some crazy man, taken to a torture chamber, get tortured for a whole week, and then returned back home, they would still think what Giddey did to them was worse. What did he do? He choked in the playoffs. That's it. They're acting like other players didn't choke, and he burnt the Bible or something.

Their excuse is they want him gone because they want him to "succeed," which is hilarious because Giddey would be the first player in history the fanbase wants him traded so he can be better elsewhere. I swear there must be some water contaminants in the state of Oklahoma.

*Note I'm a Thunder fan and I have a lot of love for the Thunder family, but they're just being overly irrational with this whole Giddey drama.

Where the heck are you getting your info from? I’ve never seen you post on the thunder board. Most thunder fans just thing Giddey wasn’t a good fit but that the extent of it.


I'm sorry not you guys. That's why I only post on here now. I don't want to link to a competing website, but the drama got so bad I deleted my account. Realgm is so much better.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Carus 

Post#475 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:58 pm

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No they wanted him gone. The vitriol they displayed towards him was so egregious they chased him out of town, well, not literally chased him out of town, but he did ask for a trade. Even when he's gone and we got a great asset in return, they're still hating on him. Like literally if they were abducted by some crazy man, taken to a torture chamber, get tortured for a whole week, and then returned back home, they would still think what Giddey did to them was worse. What did he do? He choked in the playoffs. That's it. They're acting like other players didn't choke, and he burnt the Bible or something.

Their excuse is they want him gone because they want him to "succeed," which is hilarious because Giddey would be the first player in history the fanbase wants him traded so he can be better elsewhere. I swear there must be some water contaminants in the state of Oklahoma.

*Note I'm a Thunder fan and I have a lot of love for the Thunder family, but they're just being overly irrational with this whole Giddey drama.

Where the heck are you getting your info from? I’ve never seen you post on the thunder board. Most thunder fans just thing Giddey wasn’t a good fit but that the extent of it.


I'm sorry not you guys. That's why I only post on here now. I don't want to link to a competing website, but the drama got so bad I deleted my account. Realgm is so much better.

Thunder Reddit is a disaster. I hope Giddey is successful. My biggest complaint is that we shouldn’t be trying to accommodate a guy that is at best the fourth best player on the team when we have the mvp runner up. I think Caruso fits better than Giddey. The clock is ticking. I’m happy with with the move and wish Giddey the best.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Carus 

Post#476 » by Devilanche » Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:26 am

ThunderBolt wrote:
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ThunderBolt wrote:Where the heck are you getting your info from? I’ve never seen you post on the thunder board. Most thunder fans just thing Giddey wasn’t a good fit but that the extent of it.


I'm sorry not you guys. That's why I only post on here now. I don't want to link to a competing website, but the drama got so bad I deleted my account. Realgm is so much better.

Thunder Reddit is a disaster. I hope Giddey is successful. My biggest complaint is that we shouldn’t be trying to accommodate a guy that is at best the fourth best player on the team when we have the mvp runner up. I think Caruso fits better than Giddey. The clock is ticking. I’m happy with with the move and wish Giddey the best.

Thunder reddit has a lot more giddey believer than giddey slammer.

He’s not a bad player just that his route to being an all star is just that much harder at OKC than elsewhere.

That route is shrinking though given his weakness is quite hard for him to overcome but he should still be able to round out into a decent 6 man or a poor starter on a non playoff.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#477 » by wegotthabeet » Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:31 am

I’m a big Caruso fan. Pretty much the ideal proverbial guard off the bench, so I love this OKC.

That being said I don’t mind the risk reward for the Bulls here. Maybe they bought low on Giddey.
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Post#478 » by Lo Wang » Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:39 am

wegotthabeet wrote:I’m a big Caruso fan. Pretty much the ideal proverbial guard off the bench, so I love this OKC.

That being said I don’t mind the risk reward for the Bulls here. Maybe they bought low on Giddey.


Actually it's the opposite, getting a player when he's at his lowest brings the highest value , and getting a player at their highest value brings the lowest returns.

I think the Thunder is undervaluing Giddey. Keep in mind, Presti wanted to keep him. I wouldn’t question his judgment. That man is a legit basketball genius.
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#479 » by DuallyNoted » Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:47 am

slick_watts wrote:giddey's biggest problem in the mid-range and at the rim despite mediocre finishing is that he is not getting to the line either. comparing his fg% from 3-10 feet to jayson tatum is silly.


Good thing I brought it up in response to his FG% from 3-10 feet and not his midrange jumper then?
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Re: Woj: Thunder Trade Josh Giddey to Bulls for Alex Caruso 

Post#480 » by lethalizer » Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:42 am

DuallyNoted wrote:
slick_watts wrote:giddey's biggest problem in the mid-range and at the rim despite mediocre finishing is that he is not getting to the line either. comparing his fg% from 3-10 feet to jayson tatum is silly.


Good thing I brought it up in response to his FG% from 3-10 feet and not his midrange jumper then?


You did, but you failed to mention Tatum's shot diet. There's a reason Tatum has a 60.4 percent TS compared to 54.7 percent TS(?!) of Giddey. Which should easily be clear with a bit of critical thinking.

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