Chi-Utah

[pipfan]

With the rumor that Kessler is on the block (I wanted him when the Bulls drafted DTerry-what a big mistake), would this work?

Kessler/Collins/#29 for Vuc/JCarter/#11

Utah gets the #10 and 11 to play with for their rebuild. Not sure why Kessler could be on the block, but I saw the report.

Bulls keep getting younger and go with
Giddy/White/PWill/Collins/Kessler, with Ayo as 6th man

[Texas Chuck]

I wouldn't pay that as Chicago. I think they could actually trade back a bit and get a decent center prospect and have all 4 years. The issue with Kessler is even if he bounces back from last year, he's just always going to be a part-time center. And to give up that pick for just 2 years of that when the team won't be good enough to take advantage of those cheap years...

[Colbinii]

Yikes. I'd rather take a shot on a Center with some more upside in the draft than trade #11 for Kessler.

[SkyHook]

With the rumor that Kessler is on the block (I wanted him when the Bulls drafted DTerry-what a big mistake), would this work?

Kessler/Collins/#29 for Vuc/JCarter/#11

Utah gets the #10 and 11 to play with for their rebuild. Not sure why Kessler could be on the block, but I saw the report.

Bulls keep getting younger and go with
Giddy/White/PWill/Collins/Kessler, with Ayo as 6th man

I wouldn't do this for the Jazz as I'm still optimistic about Walker. And Tony Jones of The Athletic dismissed that rumor as speculative nonsense on a podcast last night.

[PlayerUp]

Better for the Bulls to just buyout Vucevic if the plan is to rebuild.

[ChettheJet]

The Bulls do that. They aren't going to get a star or a starter at #11, with all the mock guess drafts the guys at #6 are also listed at #21. The Bulls can get a project for the G League at #29, they have Phillips and Sonogo with a year each to be at the end of the bench.

Kessler wouldn't be asked to be an all star candidate, play hard, rebound the ball and clog the lane. If the right number comes up they can resign Andre Drummond to start and split time with Kessler. The big deal is moving on from an aging Vucevic and his 2 year contract. But the find for the Bulls is John Collins. An actual 6-10 PF, no he's not a star just a solid player who shows up every game. Now they can let DeRozan walk or help him with a S&T and resign Patrick Williams to finally get to play the SF position.

Collins Phillips
Williams
Drummond Kessler
White
Giddey Dosunmu

younger, more athletic, not afraid to play defense, room to add shooters

[WinterSoldier]

Yikes. I'd rather take a shot on a Center with some more upside in the draft than trade #11 for Kessler.

I have seen you hate on every Jazz trade lately. What team are you a fan of Colbinii?

[Colbinii]

Yikes. I'd rather take a shot on a Center with some more upside in the draft than trade #11 for Kessler.

I have seen you hate on every Jazz trade lately. What team are you a fan of Colbinii?

I'm a fan of the entire NBA.

How am I hating on this trade? I value draft picks and the variance over lower-ceiling players.

I am much higher than Sexton than most people here, for example.

[WinterSoldier]

Yikes. I'd rather take a shot on a Center with some more upside in the draft than trade #11 for Kessler.

I have seen you hate on every Jazz trade lately. What team are you a fan of Colbinii?

I'm a fan of the entire NBA.

How am I hating on this trade? I value draft picks and the variance over lower-ceiling players.

I am much higher than Sexton than most people here, for example.

I think the yikes didn't help, but fine you value what you value. I disagree about the low ceiling as his defensive stats alone are on a high end for a 22 year old.

[pipfan]

Yes, the main part here is the #11 for Kessler, but this deal also offers Chi
-moving on from Vuc (who's a solid player but his D is SOOOOO bad for us)
-dumping JCarter (I was in favor of this signing, but he was a bust)
-Adding Collins (a starter-level guy to play at the 4)
-The #29 pick

Bulls dump Lavine (not sure where), sign-and-trade DDR (Lakers?) and go with
Giddy
CWhite
PWill
Collins
Kessler
Ayo is our 6th man, and we would also hopefully resign Drummond. Still have Phillips/Terry/#29 plus what we get from dealing Lavine and maybe DeRozan

Much younger, but probably still a bad team (unless PWill breaks out)-but we keep our '25 pick and have cap space next summer

[jayjaysee]

Sounds like Chicago fans want Collins for Vucevic..

Why not just do that trade? Leave 11th out of it. Maybe add some seconds if needed.

[meekrab]

Sounds like Chicago fans want Collins for Vucevic..

Maybe pipfan does but this Chicago fan wants nothing to do with Collins. He's only a "starter level" player if your team is aiming for 20 wins.

[SkyHook]

Sounds like Chicago fans want Collins for Vucevic..

Why not just do that trade? Leave 11th out of it. Maybe add some seconds if needed.

I'd prefer to stay the course with Collins rather than swap him for Vuc.

[jbk1234]

Better for the Bulls to just buyout Vucevic if the plan is to rebuild.

I've seen this mentioned a couple of times and I just have to say that if a team plans on acquiring Vuc via a buyout, that team needs a new plan. 1) Vuc has two years left at $20M per and that's a lot of dead cap; 2) Vuc is neither worthless nor injured, he's just overpaid for a guy who should be coming off the bench; 3) the Bulls look to be entering a rebuild so there's no pressure; and 4) the Bulls owner is notorious for hating buyouts. He didn't even want to use the amnesty provision on Boozer.