2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27)

[brackdan70]

I would be bold and offer Pritchard, 30th pick and next year’s first round pick and see how far up this draft I could get.

Once you know how far up you could get then evaluate who could be there an if it’s worth it.

Celtics could get a good player and help their cap situation in one trade.

By the way, I would only consider it if it got me in the 13-18 range and there was a player I liked still available

I think Pritchard and 30th pick next year each are better value than 13-18 this year. I would not get rid of a rotation guy and a pick in a good draft and a pick on a bad draft for a dude that won’t play next year.

[hugepatsfan]

PP/#30/next year’s first for a pick this year… that would ultimately come down to player evaluation. What do they think they’re getting with that pick this year? If they truly feel they’re getting a guy who can step in as a starting center in 2 years if they want to let Porzingis walk either because of decline or money, then it’d absolutely be worth it. But tough to have much conviction on anyone that package would have you in position to draft IMO.

[playa-hater]

I would be bold and offer Pritchard, 30th pick and next year’s first round pick and see how far up this draft I could get.

Once you know how far up you could get then evaluate who could be there an if it’s worth it.

Celtics could get a good player and help their cap situation in one trade.

By the way, I would only consider it if it got me in the 13-18 range and there was a player I liked still available

I think Pritchard and 30th pick next year each are better value than 13-18 this year. I would not get rid of a rotation guy and a pick in a good draft and a pick on a bad draft for a dude that won’t play next year.

Are we sure on that? I mean what If that player this year turns out to be K Ware and he somewhat plays close to his ceiling.. There is No guarantee that next year's draft will result in a better player.

[brackdan70]

I would be bold and offer Pritchard, 30th pick and next year’s first round pick and see how far up this draft I could get.

Once you know how far up you could get then evaluate who could be there an if it’s worth it.

Celtics could get a good player and help their cap situation in one trade.

By the way, I would only consider it if it got me in the 13-18 range and there was a player I liked still available

I think Pritchard and 30th pick next year each are better value than 13-18 this year. I would not get rid of a rotation guy and a pick in a good draft and a pick on a bad draft for a dude that won’t play next year.

Are we sure on that? I mean what If that player this year turns out K Ware and he somewhat plays close to his ceiling.. There is No guarantee that next year's draft will result in a better player.

Yeah there is a chance to hit a home run…but it looks to me like a better chance next year without trading up….Pritchard has played like a late lotto pick, so we want to trade him in his prime for a pick in the teens in this draft? There are no sure things of course and I bet there will be a couple great players come out of this draft, but it seems like more of a gamble and throwing assets away to me. I’ll trust Brad though of course.

[Fierce1]

Just like the Mavs vs. Celtics finals was underwhelming to not Celtic fans, this draft will also be underwhelming to Celtic fans.

Cs will most likely not have a pick on the first day of the draft.

[playa-hater]

Another trade up Draft idea... PHX has almost NO draft picks going forward. Rumors were they want to trade down. Boston trades 30 and 2 or even 3 second rd draft picks. Boston keeps PP and gives away almost nothing in 2nd rders that probably won't make the team (lack of roster spots.) **** IF one of the quality Big-men are still there (likely some at 22)

Get a potential starter type talent > Projects..

[brackdan70]

Just like the Mavs vs. Celtics finals was underwhelming to not Celtic fans, this draft will also be underwhelming to Celtic fans.

Cs will most likely not have a pick on the first day of the draft.

I am overwhelmed

[brackdan70]

Just like the Mavs vs. Celtics finals was underwhelming to not Celtic fans, this draft will also be underwhelming to Celtic fans.

Cs will most likely not have a pick on the first day of the draft.

I am overwhelmed

[Hal14]

I would be bold and offer Pritchard, 30th pick and next year’s first round pick and see how far up this draft I could get.

Once you know how far up you could get then evaluate who could be there an if it’s worth it.

Celtics could get a good player and help their cap situation in one trade.

By the way, I would only consider it if it got me in the 13-18 range and there was a player I liked still available

Too risky imo.

You're trading away a top 8 rotation player who just helped you win a title.

These are all guys who were top 18 picks in a recent drafts who spent a good portion of their rookie year in the G league - and they were on teams that were worse than the Celtics:

Taylor Hendricks - 9th pick - Jazz
Jett Howard - 11th pick - Magic
Gradey Dick - 13th pick - Raptors
Kobe Bufkin - 15th pick - Hawks
Jarace Walker - 8th pick - Pacers
Jalen Hood-Schifino - 17th pick - Lakers
Ousmane Dieng - 11th pick - Thunder
Johnny Davis - 10th pick - Wizards
Dalen Terry - 18th pick - Bulls
James Bouknight - 11th pick - Hornets
Moses Moody - 14th pick - Warriors
Tre Mann - 18th pick - Thunder

Meanwhile, we've had guys picked outside of the top 18 in recent drafts who did contribute right away as a rookie (Walker Kessler, Jaylin Williams, Podziemski, Herb Jones, Ayo Dosunmo, Trayce Jackson-Davis, Craig Porter Jr, Payton Pritchard, Robert Williams, Christian Braun, Cam Whitmore, GG Jackson, Vince Williams Jr, etc.)

Long story short, you can often get a player who's just as good (if not better) in the 19-60 range as you can in the 9-18 range so it might not be worth it to trade a guaranteed rotation player (like Pritchard) for a guy who is not guaranteed to be a rotation player (might spend season in G league), imo.

[redslastlaugh]

Another trade up Draft idea... PHX has almost NO draft picks going forward. Rumors were they want to trade down. Boston trades 30 and 2 or even 3 second rd draft picks. Boston keeps PP and gives away almost nothing in 2nd rders that probably won't make the team (lack of roster spots.) **** IF one of the quality Big-men are still there (likely some at 22)

Get a potential starter type talent > Projects..

We’d probably have to first trade Jordan Walsh for 2-3 future seconds to have the inventory to do a trade like this. If we traded three future seconds as is we’d only have, I think, one future 2nd remaining over the next seven yrs.

[phincsfan]

I'm gonna flip flop and say run it back, don't trade PP and make a pick at #30. Put the scouting rooms feet to the fire and see if they can find the team a player who can contribute and not be a multiyear project. A Freeman, Scheirman, Mitchell? I don't know. They get paid to make that decision.

Next year the overall #1 seed for the playoffs doesn't have to be a major priority like staying healthy will be for next season. Being a top 4 seed in the east is just fine. 50 wins gets a top 4 seed in the east. It may also mean a low/mid 20's pick which may allow a chance to improve that pick with a trade to the late teens by then including a future 1st.

Lets say the C's landed in the 24th pick range this year. If there's a target that's in the teens than package that with a future 1st gets you a chance to take a George, da Silva, Carrington, Holmes in this draft. This is hypothetical for next year.

[djFan71]

Pritchard is replaceable, imo, even given our goal to repeat. I also think he alone gets you something in the 20s. He and 30 even higher. Orlando, Toronto, NOP could be options. If you're targeting a big, you could include Queta too. Not much value, but not nothing. Pritchard and Queta alone could interest NYK for instance, if they think they are losing one of their current centers.

Take back a vet (Seth Curry) in a 3-way or sign a vet min PG (Holiday, Joseph, etc). Yes, none of those guys are as good. But you also have Springer to find minutes for and two all-star wings who do a lot of the playmaking.

Just don't do it expecting the pick to contribute next year. It's a play for when Al retires. You have Al, KP, X and Kornet while the pick develops. If they are ready next year, great, but you don't NEED them to play.

EDIT: After saying all that, I don't know if I see that guy in this draft. I like a lot of them as complimentary players, but I don't see any real "take over for Al" in a few years guys.

[djFan71]

Dunno if we’re stick of Substack draft analysts yet …. buuuuut … Logan Eby final big board, write ups on the top 76 draftable prospects.

https://loganeby.substack.com/p/final-2024-big-board

Never! Post them all! I hadn't seen this one, so thanks!

[djFan71]

I hate the complete lack of shooting, but Mogbo is continuing to grow on me for everything else. Draymond-lite-esque. A tad redundant with X, but seems like a better passer already and the athleticism/measurables are nuts.

He's a big, don't do it reach at 30, and almost a guarantee to not last til 54, so this would be the trade back scenario.

[Fierce1]

What will factor in to the Cs' draft decisions is knowing the Cs will have 5 players getting 30m+ per year after White signs that extension.

[hugepatsfan]

Jaylen is starting a 5 year extension and Holiday/Pritchard are starting 4 year extensions.

If Tatum extends as is elected he’ll be tied to the franchise for 6 more years. Maybe 5 if he gets player option.

If White is extended as expected he’ll be signed for 5 years, or maybe 4 if there’s a player option.

Apparently they want to extend Hauser… his hypothetical deal would be much more valuable but decent chance it could be 4-5 years total (meaning they tack either 3 or 4 more years onto his current expiring deal).

That’s 6 of our top 8. The two I left out - Horford and Porzingis - both play center. Horford has 1 year left and Porzingis has 2. Horford will be 39 years old next year and as much as he might keep saying he wants to play, hard to count on. Porzingis will be 30 when his deal is up, and injury concerns will always follow him.

Our entire PG/SG/SF and most of the PF time looks like it will be locked in for 4-5 years after this offseason. And Holiday is probably the only one of them who is a real threat to drop off in play during that span. And at some point towards the end of his deal, they can probably just add picks to his salary and get a younger replacement.

I don’t mean to oversimplify it, but they should probably just spam the **** out of drafting young bigs the next two years. This team should be pretty set on the perimeter. I know there’s trades and underperformances and all that but feels like we’re in amazing shape moving forward other than trying to fill the C spot and maybe some backup PF minutes.

[Celts17Pride]

I would be bold and offer Pritchard, 30th pick and next year’s first round pick and see how far up this draft I could get.

Once you know how far up you could get then evaluate who could be there an if it’s worth it.

Celtics could get a good player and help their cap situation in one trade.

By the way, I would only consider it if it got me in the 13-18 range and there was a player I liked still available

You trade away Pritchard and the only NBA guards left on the roster are Derrick White and a 34 year old Jrue Holiday coming off a finals run + the Olympics. No reason to create that kind of hole in your rotation unless you have to and the Celtics don't have to.

Vet backup point guards are a dime a dozen in the NBA

[Fierce1]

I would be bold and offer Pritchard, 30th pick and next year’s first round pick and see how far up this draft I could get.

Once you know how far up you could get then evaluate who could be there an if it’s worth it.

Celtics could get a good player and help their cap situation in one trade.

By the way, I would only consider it if it got me in the 13-18 range and there was a player I liked still available

You trade away Pritchard and the only NBA guards left on the roster are Derrick White and a 34 year old Jrue Holiday coming off a finals run + the Olympics. No reason to create that kind of hole in your rotation unless you have to and the Celtics don't have to.

Vet backup point guards are a dime a dozen

You have to factor in team chemistry.

The team is gelling, so keep it going, IMO.

[Celts17Pride]

You trade away Pritchard and the only NBA guards left on the roster are Derrick White and a 34 year old Jrue Holiday coming off a finals run + the Olympics. No reason to create that kind of hole in your rotation unless you have to and the Celtics don't have to.

Vet backup point guards are a dime a dozen

You have to factor in team chemistry.

The team is gelling, so keep it going, IMO.

If you are not getting better, then you are falling behind. Pritchard couldn’t even get on the court except for 4 seconds. Brad Stevens is not going to give him away but I’m sure he is testing the waters to see what PP and the 30th pick could bring back

[Fierce1]

Vet backup point guards are a dime a dozen

You have to factor in team chemistry.

The team is gelling, so keep it going, IMO.

If you are not getting better, then you are falling behind. Pritchard couldn’t even get on the court except for 4 seconds. Brad Stevens is not going to give him away but I’m sure he is testing the waters to see what PP and the 30th pick could bring back

Yeah, I agree about the getting better part, but I don't think that will apply to the current situation of the Celtics.

The new salary cap rules are intended to stop a super team, like Boston, to keep getting better.

That was one of the major issues of the new CBA, the super teams.

What happens now is PP is more important in the regular season than the playoffs.

PP can allow Jrue to go easy during the regular season so that Jrue will be fresh for the playoffs.

I just don't see the Cs making any significant changes in the off-season.

And it's just not practical to have a 1st round pick this year when the Cs are about to have 5 players that will cost over 180m a year.