OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread

[Kizz Fastfists]

He definitely has the ability and technique to become a stretch 5. He showed promise with the Clippers and was allowed to utilize that part of his game. Thibs is old school and has forced him to rein in that part of his game because they prioritize offensive boards. Get him working with Chip, and he could easily be a guy putting up 35%.

He took 30 shots from 3 his season with the Clippers. He took 37 the following season with the Knicks and Thibs as the coach. Hartenstein has 87 shots from 3 for his career at 31%. He's a 69% FT shooter for his career. Nothing about him profiles as a Giddey level 3pt shooter, much less someone OKC would be interested in a stretch big.

[Kizz Fastfists]

I’m an optimist bro.

I think it’s possible that the free agency splash is a PF/C while I recognise the draft could still be an SF. A PG/SG just doesn’t make sense to me if we don’t foresee a way to playing time for said draftee.

OKC's 10 most used lineups last season were 4 PGs/wings with one big man. That isn't going to change which leads to a path for playing time for any PG/wing they bring in. I classify JDub as a wing.

[Dn4sty]

Reading posts in this thread would lead me to believe that Presti has the same basketball knowledge as my eight year old daughter.

Presti gushed about Giddey in his exit interview only to move him a few weeks later. This board is simultaneously amazing for insight and knowledge and also leaves me scratching my head almost at the same time.

[Devilanche]

I’m an optimist bro.

I think it’s possible that the free agency splash is a PF/C while I recognise the draft could still be an SF. A PG/SG just doesn’t make sense to me if we don’t foresee a way to playing time for said draftee.

OKC's 10 most used lineups last season were 4 PGs/wings with one big man. That isn't going to change which leads to a path for playing time for any PG/wing they bring in. I classify JDub as a wing.

Damn those facts.

JDub is a wing for sure but a smallball PF at best. Let see how it goes . Draft in under a week.

[Devilanche]

Reading posts in this thread would lead me to believe that Presti has the same basketball knowledge as my eight year old daughter.

Presti gushed about Giddey in his exit interview only to move him a few weeks later. This board is simultaneously amazing for insight and knowledge and also leaves me scratching my head almost at the same time.

Presti is that girl you like back at school that send all the right signals and the indifferent attitude time to time .

And few years later leave you wondering , did she make a move on me ?

[Clav]

I have our roster as below

PG - SGA , Cason
SG - Dort , Caruso , Wiggins
SF - Jdub , Joe
PF - Empty , Kenrich ,Dieng
C - Chet , Jaylin

Option not picked up - Lindy waters
contract expired - Hayward , Muscala , Biyombo

Still leave us 3 empty spots in free agency/draft.
With one of wiggins/joe/kenrich as potentially moving if needed due to freeing up minutes for 12 or backup minutes.

We view the roster a bit differently.

PG- SGA, Cason
SG- Dort, FA, Wiggins, #12 that gets most of their playing time in the g-league
SF- Caruso, Joe, Waters
PF- JDub, Kenrich, Dieng
C- Chet, Jaylin, vet minimum cheerleader

I expect the draft pick to be stuck on the bench as I'm expecting it to be another wing. Right now I'm leaning in the direction of Ja'Kobe Walker as the waste of #12. Where either da Silva, Edey or Ware would slot in nicely as 2nd on the depth chart at PF or C. I also expect FA to be focused on players like CP3, if GS releases him, Buddy Hield, Lowry, etc. I do not expect any big men to be pursued in FA or trade, just like last year, outside of an emergency vet minimum big man.

I have my ideas on the rotation too, but I don't think this team is done yet making some moves. Ideally for me, the #12 is addressing our size, not necessarily a C explicitly, but hopefully a useful player that can be as Dereck Lively was for the Mavs this year. This might mean we use 12 to move down in the draft and I wouldn't be surprised if we did so.

One thing I hope for is a #12 for Toronto's #19, where we can get Olynyk on the roster somehow. I've suggested Dieng in that trade but unsure if that's exactly what TOR wants, or if that's fair, but it gets us a quite useful player to slot into playmaking and rebounding with our lineup.

I am unsure that Caruso would start at SF/3, but if we're doing that Jalen is at the 4 and I'm not sure that solves our team's issues so please let's not manifest that lineup.

[TFJava]

Should the Thunder try to trade a 2nd round pick for Jarrett Allen from the Cavs?

[ThunderBolt]

Should the Thunder try to trade a 2nd round pick for Jarrett Allen from the Cavs?

I suspect the Cavs want multiple firsts for Allen. For the most part I’d only give up multiple first round picks for players I know will start and fit with the current group. Allen isn’t that guy for me.

[Devilanche]

Should the Thunder try to trade a 2nd round pick for Jarrett Allen from the Cavs?

There’s no way his value is that low

[Dadouv47]

Should the Thunder try to trade a 2nd round pick for Jarrett Allen from the Cavs?

I suspect the Cavs want multiple firsts for Allen. For the most part I’d only give up multiple first round picks for players I know will start and fit with the current group. Allen isn’t that guy for me.

same. I do think that Allen is easily worth 2 protected FRP in a vacuum but not to us.

[Zagor]

What do you think about roster:
PG - SGA, Cason
SG - Dort, Caruso, Joe
SF - Jdub, Wiggins, Dieng
PF - Tristan da Silva, Kenrich, Jalen Smith
C - Chet, Jalen Smith, JWill

We would be stronger for Caruso, Tristan and Jalen Smith( he can play 4 and 5). There would be financial flexibility and we keep all our picks.

Other path is to trade picks, Cason and Dieng for great player. But Jazz will not give us Lauri and Nets will probably keep Mikal.
Is Cam Johnson good enough to spend on him 3 FRP and Dieng? What if they ask for Cason?

[Woerzboerg]

What do you think about roster:
PG - SGA, Cason
SG - Dort, Caruso, Joe
SF - Jdub, Wiggins, Dieng
PF - Tristan da Silva, Kenrich, Jalen Smith
C - Chet, Jalen Smith, JWill

We would be stronger for Caruso, Tristan and Jalen Smith( he can play 4 and 5). There would be financial flexibility and we keep all our picks.

Other path is to trade picks, Cason and Dieng for great player. But Jazz will not give us Lauri and Nets will probably keep Mikal.
Is Cam Johnson good enough to spend on him 3 FRP and Dieng? What if they ask for Cason?

I'd like a combination of the following signings/trades:
- Chris Paul (signing once he gets bought out): he knows the team, knows SGA and his expierience would be awesome in a small backup-role (if he is willing to do that).
- Deni Avdija: if he is availaible we should make a bid, includig Kenrich, Dieng and probably 2 or even 3 firsts
- DFS: as an alternative to Avdija we could try to make a bid for DFS. He should be much cheaper and provides a solid 3&D-game
- Patrick Williams: he is a RFA and won't get that big offers. He could be a good addition between JDub and Chet Why don't try to make a splash?
- Goga Bitadze: good backup-big, will be a free agent. We could afford a little overpay due to our big capspace.

[Kizz Fastfists]

What do you think about roster:
PG - SGA, Cason
SG - Dort, Caruso, Joe
SF - Jdub, Wiggins, Dieng
PF - Tristan da Silva, Kenrich, Jalen Smith
C - Chet, Jalen Smith, JWill

We would be stronger for Caruso, Tristan and Jalen Smith( he can play 4 and 5). There would be financial flexibility and we keep all our picks.

Other path is to trade picks, Cason and Dieng for great player. But Jazz will not give us Lauri and Nets will probably keep Mikal.
Is Cam Johnson good enough to spend on him 3 FRP and Dieng? What if they ask for Cason?

I'm operating under the assumption that Presti is going to draft one of the players that he had visit OKC for a pre-draft workout. That list is Salaun, McCain and Ron Holland for projected lottery picks. He might "reach" for Tyler Smith. The only other players I consider real options are Edey and Cody Williams. Presti could have met with Cody through Jalen being on the roster and not needing an actual pre-draft workout to have conversations to get to know if he would fit with the team. Edey was brought in for a pre-draft workout last year before opting to return to Purdue so Presti would have gotten a feel for his fit at that time. I'm guessing Presti will swing for the fences with Salaun and hope he continues to develop in France. I'm not high on Salaun and am debating calling him Tibor Pleiss 2.0 if Presti drafts him.

[Dadouv47]

My bet is that Presti will try to move up to draft Cody Williams.

I like Cody but I don't want us to trade assets to move up. I'm worried Presti won't trade for a very good established player.

[Big nick]

My bet is that Presti will try to move up to draft Cody Williams.

I like Cody but I don't want us to trade assets to move up. I'm worried Presti won't trade for a very good established player.

I worry about this also. He will need sometime to develop I like him though. But we need a big!

[cjmcallist]

Maybe y'all can help me with this. If PG13 really wants to come to OKC (I doubt it), why would we trade for him? Wouldn't we just;
- Decline TO on Lindy
- Trade Dieng for whatever pick(s)
- Trade Kenrich for whatever pick(s)

That would give us roughly $50.3m in cap space. PG13 max is confusing to me, but I think it's just under $48.0m? Help me out!

[Kizz Fastfists]

My bet is that Presti will try to move up to draft Cody Williams.

I like Cody but I don't want us to trade assets to move up. I'm worried Presti won't trade for a very good established player.

It is possible that Jalen has told Presti he doesn't want Cody on the team because he wants to crush his brother as an opponent.

[Balkman32]

My bet is that Presti will try to move up to draft Cody Williams.

I like Cody but I don't want us to trade assets to move up. I'm worried Presti won't trade for a very good established player.

Idk if he will trade up. I think there are 8-10 guys at the top at this draft that they would be happy with.

[Balkman32]

Maybe y'all can help me with this. If PG13 really wants to come to OKC (I doubt it), why would we trade for him? Wouldn't we just;
- Decline TO on Lindy
- Trade Dieng for whatever pick(s)
- Trade Kenrich for whatever pick(s)

That would give us roughly $50.3m in cap space. PG13 max is confusing to me, but I think it's just under $48.0m? Help me out!

I think the opt in then the 4 year extension gives him the most $. The less $ the Clips take back the bigger their trade exception is. I have a feeling they will be more valuable in the future

[Balkman32]

What do you think about roster:
PG - SGA, Cason
SG - Dort, Caruso, Joe
SF - Jdub, Wiggins, Dieng
PF - Tristan da Silva, Kenrich, Jalen Smith
C - Chet, Jalen Smith, JWill

We would be stronger for Caruso, Tristan and Jalen Smith( he can play 4 and 5). There would be financial flexibility and we keep all our picks.

Other path is to trade picks, Cason and Dieng for great player. But Jazz will not give us Lauri and Nets will probably keep Mikal.
Is Cam Johnson good enough to spend on him 3 FRP and Dieng? What if they ask for Cason?

The front line isn’t strong enough. They would need a DFS type to make a chance. I want more that smith at backup c.