Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2

[Murray_17]

I know KCP shot 40% from 3 for Denver on the season, but man he was bricking 3's in the playoffs for them. That was rough. I don't feel he's as good of a shooter as the raw numbers indicate. Well rounded player though, but will get paid more than Malik Monk most likely. Not sure he's worth eating up 20+m.

He made 1.5 3s on the playoffs while injured on a small sample, and made 1.6 in the regular season. I would not worry about that.

The reality is players like KCP, Carusso, Bruce Brown or Derrick White are the biggest commodity in the league, if you have a little playmaking on you, can space the floor, and also defend enough to cover perimeter weaknesses you're likely a premium for a role player.

[ProcessDoctor]

I know KCP shot 40% from 3 for Denver on the season, but man he was bricking 3's in the playoffs for them. That was rough. I don't feel he's as good of a shooter as the raw numbers indicate. Well rounded player though, but will get paid more than Malik Monk most likely. Not sure he's worth eating up 20+m.

He made 1.5 3s on the playoffs while injured on a small sample, and made 1.6 in the regular season. I would not worry about that.

The reality is players like KCP, Carusso, Bruce Brown or Derrick White are the biggest commodity in the league, if you have a little playmaking on you, can space the floor, and also defend enough to cover perimeter weaknesses you're likely a premium for a role player.

It sounds like you’re describing De’Anthony Melton, who this whole board seems to have turned against lol. If he’s healthy, I’m really hoping we can bring him back at a reasonable price.

[Murray_17]

It sounds like you’re describing De’Anthony Melton, who this whole board seems to have turned against lol. If he’s healthy, I’m really hoping we can bring him back at a reasonable price.

I love Melton but he's so bad at the rim teams basically let him drive. If you put a body on him on the perimeter is over :p.

I would love to keep him, but back injuries are the worst thing an athlete can have. By the look of it the team had little faith on him recovering, Nurse let him out of the rotation when he was cleared even when we were desperate for a 7th/8th man.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

You can firmly put me in the keep Melton crowd. There is no way we should let him walk unless we have a replacement already in place. As in, already on the roster, signed on an under the table tampering type of deal. I like Melton more than most on here and I'm going to die on that hill. I do not understand why so many have turned on him. He got injured, it happens. He's a very good player and one of Morey's better additions as GM of this team.

[Negrodamus]

I’m off Melton. For no other reason than his injury situation this past year really seems like he’ll be unavailable at times next season. If he were 6’5+, I’d give him a chance, but he’s essentially a defensive specialist on smaller guards.

[youngcrev]

You can firmly put me in the keep Melton crowd. There is no way we should let him walk unless we have a replacement already in place. As in, already on the roster, signed on an under the table tampering type of deal. I like Melton more than most on here and I'm going to die on that hill. I do not understand why so many have turned on him. He got injured, it happens. He's a very good player and one of Morey's better additions as GM of this team.

He was a great fit with Harden as a point of attack defender that could spot up from 3. I think he's a less than ideal backcourt mate to Maxey due to his size and lack of playmaking. The fit gets a little cleaner if you acquire a playmaking forward, but size would still be a concern.

But mainly, the injury question marks are the real issue. If you could promise me a clean bill of health I'd have him as biggest priority to keep over Batum and Oubre. But lingering back injuries are scary, and they likely can't afford the risk if they follow through on the 3rd max slot since they'll have such limited resources remaining to build out the team.

[Jailblazers7]

I genuinely feel bad for Melton. He got the worst injury at the worst time for himself. I hope he gets his health back but I think he’s best off taking the vet min in a place like LAL as a prove it deal to get long term money. I just don’t see him getting more money than that given the back injury.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I genuinely feel bad for Melton. He got the worst injury at the worst time for himself. I hope he gets his health back but I think he’s best off taking the vet min in a place like LAL as a prove it deal to get long term money. I just don’t see him getting more money than that given the back injury.

Then he can take a team friendly deal with us and come off the bench.

[Jailblazers7]

I genuinely feel bad for Melton. He got the worst injury at the worst time for himself. I hope he gets his health back but I think he’s best off taking the vet min in a place like LAL as a prove it deal to get long term money. I just don’t see him getting more money than that given the back injury.

Then he can take a team friendly deal with us and come off the bench.

I think he’s better off going to a capped out team like LA or PHX where he can have a bigger role. I’d love to have him back in Philly for cheap but we’re probably not the best place to rebuild his value.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I genuinely feel bad for Melton. He got the worst injury at the worst time for himself. I hope he gets his health back but I think he’s best off taking the vet min in a place like LAL as a prove it deal to get long term money. I just don’t see him getting more money than that given the back injury.

Then he can take a team friendly deal with us and come off the bench.

I think he’s better off going to a capped out team like LA or PHX where he can have a bigger role. I’d love to have him back in Philly for cheap but we’re probably not the best place to rebuild his value.

Yeah, I do agree with that. He's going to have to do that. Only way he comes back is if he's a starter. My prediction is that we throw money at KCP to replace Melton.

[MoeGreene]

KCP is one of the most useless players. Like Tobias. Always shrinks to the moment. Please no.

[youngcrev]

I genuinely feel bad for Melton. He got the worst injury at the worst time for himself. I hope he gets his health back but I think he’s best off taking the vet min in a place like LAL as a prove it deal to get long term money. I just don’t see him getting more money than that given the back injury.

Then he can take a team friendly deal with us and come off the bench.

I think he’s better off going to a capped out team like LA or PHX where he can have a bigger role. I’d love to have him back in Philly for cheap but we’re probably not the best place to rebuild his value.

The advantage to him staying here would be that the Sixers would have bird rights on him the following year to be able to pay him.

[SixthStreet]

Jazz rumored to be making Walker Kessler available. Don't think he can play with Embiid, but that's an ascending defensive anchor who can take a huge workload off Embiid. I wonder why the Jazz are listening and if this is Ainge trying to rip a team off for multiple FRPs. He's young AND impactful to winning. Not a lot of those guys actually on the market.

[mjkvol]

Jazz rumored to be making Walker Kessler available. Don't think he can play with Embiid, but that's an ascending defensive anchor who can take a huge workload off Embiid. I wonder why the Jazz are listening and if this is Ainge trying to rip a team off for multiple FRPs. He's young AND impactful to winning. Not a lot of those guys actually on the market.

No shot at getting him without paying the Ainge tax, the same as he will do with Lauri. When he makes a player "available", that word is always in quotes, and probably double for us.

[Negrodamus]

I'm very intrigued with what the Bulls are going to do with LaVine. It's not quite like Tobias in that we were competing during the life of his contract while the Bulls are looking for a refresh; so they might be willing to give him away for free (some are suggesting the pay a first for him to leave).

That said, I still don't really want him, but he is definitely not as bad of a contract as Tobias. While Tobi was a better defender, he was not able to save us when others were cold. That's the point of a third star. LaVine can do that. Tobi also was always, for better or worse, available while LaVine has been obviously injured recently.

[AI_Efficiency]

I'm very intrigued with what the Bulls are going to do with LaVine. It's not quite like Tobias in that we were competing during the life of his contract while the Bulls are looking for a refresh; so they might be willing to give him away for free (some are suggesting the pay a first for him to leave).

That said, I still don't really want him, but he is definitely not as bad of a contract as Tobias. While Tobi was a better defender, he was not able to save us when others were cold. That's the point of a third star. LaVine can do that. Tobi also was always, for better or worse, available while LaVine has been obviously injured recently.

I also wonder if DeRozan will be available. The fit would be questionable, but he’s a free agent I think.

[AI_Efficiency]

Question for anyone with cap knowledge, could we sign OG Anuoby to a max deal, then use someone’s bird rights like Tobias to sign and trade him for someone. So I’m imagining signing OG outright and then sign and trading Tobias with picks to get like an Ingram, Zach Levine, Butler, etc

[youngcrev]

Question for anyone with cap knowledge, could we sign OG Anuoby to a max deal, then use someone’s bird rights like Tobias to sign and trade him for someone. So I’m imagining signing OG outright and then sign and trading Tobias with picks to get like an Ingram, Zach Levine, Butler, etc

No, you'd have to renounce Tobias since his cap hold is so large.

[the_process]

Start with Embiid, Maxey, Council, #16, 9 cap holds

DDR 3-75
KCP 3-60
Jalen Smith 3-30
Nic Batum 1-5
Lowry, Drummond, Covington, Saric mins

Maxey/Lowry/41
KCP/Oubre/min
DDR/Council/16
Smith/Batum/Covington
Embiid/Drummond/Saric

[the_process]

I'm very intrigued with what the Bulls are going to do with LaVine. It's not quite like Tobias in that we were competing during the life of his contract while the Bulls are looking for a refresh; so they might be willing to give him away for free (some are suggesting the pay a first for him to leave).

That said, I still don't really want him, but he is definitely not as bad of a contract as Tobias. While Tobi was a better defender, he was not able to save us when others were cold. That's the point of a third star. LaVine can do that. Tobi also was always, for better or worse, available while LaVine has been obviously injured recently.

If they were willing to swap 11 for 16 to take LaVine, I'd be listening.

If they were willing to give 11 outright to take LaVine, he should be a Sixer right now.