Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2

Kobblehead · Post #821 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:00 pm

The Magic being interested in KCP is interesting. Never thought they'd be a team making win-now moves.

the_process · Post #822 » by **the_process** » Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:56 pm

Hardaway Jr is another guy it looks like you can get paid to take. He checks some boxes and doesn't cost a ton, if you can get a first out of the deal could be worth it.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #823 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:02 pm

the_process wrote:Hardaway Jr is another guy it looks like you can get paid to take. He checks some boxes and doesn't cost a ton, if you can get a first out of the deal could be worth it.

Instant offense off the bench. I've been wanting Hardaway here for a long time now. He may be past his prime, but he can still score. Yeah...If Dallas compensated US for taking him, then why not?

the_process · Post #824 » by **the_process** » Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:07 pm

the_process wrote:Start with Embiid, Maxey, Council, #16, 9 cap holds

DDR 3-75
KCP 3-60
Jalen Smith 3-30
Nic Batum 1-5
Lowry, Drummond, Covington, Saric mins

Maxey/Lowry/41
KCP/Oubre/min
DDR/Council/16
Smith/Batum/Covington
Embiid/Drummond/Saric

And if DDR says no, offer 16 for Cam
Johnson. Throw in the OKC pick if necessary.

the_process · Post #825 » by **the_process** » Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:47 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
the_process wrote:Hardaway Jr is another guy it looks like you can get paid to take. He checks some boxes and doesn't cost a ton, if you can get a first out of the deal could be worth it.

Instant offense off the bench. I've been wanting Hardaway here for a long time now. He may be past his prime, but he can still score. Yeah...If Dallas compensated US for taking him, then why not?

Just looked it up and Dallas has very little in the way of picks available.

Looks like the best they could currently do would be THJ, 25 1st, and 26 swap rights for 16. I'm not sure about that, probably pass. Or I suppose they could do a 2031 with some minimal protections instead if that floats your boat?

Mik317 · Post #826 » by **Mik317** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:15 am

THJ couldn't see the court for most of the playoffs ffs

he's cooked

AI_Efficiency · Post #827 » by **AI_Efficiency** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:28 am

Mik317 wrote:THJ couldn't see the court for most of the playoffs ffs

he's cooked

Yea, he looked bad. Also, no way Dallas is giving us any of what little picks they have to take him (looks like this is the last year of his deal and he’s only counting 16M against the cap).

Murray_17 · Post #828 » by **Murray_17** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:46 am

About Ingram, i'm on board only if somehow we get Nance too

AI_Efficiency · Post #829 » by **AI_Efficiency** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:57 am

Murray_17 wrote:About Ingram, i'm on board only if somehow we get Nance too

Is it weird that (1) PG hasn’t signed a deal with the clippers yet; (2) OG hasn’t signed with the Knicks; and (3) we haven’t made a trade, such as one for Ingram. We probably leaked that thing about not being interested in PG anymore because he isn’t going to sign here, but maybe we are waiting until draft night to do any major trades. I wouldn’t want like Cleveland to swoop in and take Ingram by giving Garland or something. Maybe if we haven’t done a trade yet, it means that we do think one of these free agents will actually come here.

Negrodamus · Post #830 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:01 am

AI_Efficiency wrote:
Murray_17 wrote:About Ingram, i'm on board only if somehow we get Nance too

Is it weird that (1) PG hasn’t signed a deal with the clippers yet; (2) OG hasn’t signed with the Knicks; and (3) we haven’t made a trade, such as one for Ingram. We probably leaked that thing about not being interested in PG anymore because he isn’t going to sign here, but maybe we are waiting until draft night to do any major trades. I wouldn’t want like Cleveland to swoop in and take Ingram by giving Garland or something. Maybe if we haven’t done a trade yet, it means that we do think one of these free agents will actually come here.

I imagine OG is going to wait like Maxey to be resigned so they can maximize their cap space if they trade Julius.

Mik317 · Post #831 » by **Mik317** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:29 am

pretty sure we can';t make any trades until the draft anyway due to the stepien rule iirc

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #832 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:35 am

Mik317 wrote:THJ couldn't see the court for most of the playoffs ffs

he's cooked

It certainly looked that way. Like I said, he's past his prime...I remember when his dad was in his prime...This just reinforces that I'm old.

Murray_17 · Post #833 » by **Murray_17** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:43 am

AI_Efficiency wrote:Is it weird that (1) PG hasn’t signed a deal with the clippers yet

Not that weird in reality, PG wants a max and the Clippers don't want to give him one because that means getting a better contract than Kawhi. PG wants a max because is probably his last chance at one.

The Clippers are not gonna let him walk either because they need a good team next season now that they are getting a stadium.

AI_Efficiency wrote: OG hasn’t signed with the Knicks

Not that weird either, OG thinks he can flex them out of a Brunson type of deal or something close to a max and the Knicks probably don't want to commit to their team as it is, as they probably think they need another piece.

Basically, he's just not signing as a bargaining tactic, which is fine.

AI_Efficiency wrote:we haven’t made a trade, such as one for Ingram.

We would have more picks to trade on draft night so nothing is happening until then.

M2J · Post #834 » by **M2J** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:01 am

Would much rather keep Buddy than trade for THJ.

ProcessDoctor · Post #835 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:24 pm

1. Trade #16 and 2028 LAC 1st for Brandon Ingram (3-way with ATL)
2. Trade Reed, future 1st swap, and two 2nds for Dorian Finney-Smith
3. Sign Naji Marshall with remaining cap space (~$9 mil)
4. Sign Kelly Oubre with the room exception
5. Sign Kyle Lowry, Nico Batum, Dario Saric, Robert Covington, and Andre Drummond to vet mins

Maxey/Lowry/(project)
Marshall/Oubre/(project)
Ingram/Batum/Council
DFS/Covington/Saric
Embiid/Drummond/(project)

mjkvol · Post #836 » by **mjkvol** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:56 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:1. Trade #16 and 2028 LAC 1st for Brandon Ingram (3-way with ATL)
2. Trade Reed, future 1st swap, and two 2nds for Dorian Finney-Smith
3. Sign Naji Marshall with remaining cap space (~$9 mil)
4. Sign Kelly Oubre with the room exception
5. Sign Kyle Lowry, Nico Batum, Dario Saric, Robert Covington, and Andre Drummond to vet mins

Maxey/Lowry/(project)
Marshall/Oubre/(project)
Ingram/Batum/Council
DFS/Covington/Saric
Embiid/Drummond/(project)

#16 and the LAC 1st for Ingram? No way.

FireMorey · Post #837 » by **FireMorey** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:01 pm

Mike Scotto said despite Shams' report, the Sixers still really want PG.

He also said if not him, trading for Butler or signing Anunoby are their next preferred options they could pivot to.

Said Anunoby is expected to get minimum of 35m per season.

eyeatoma · Post #838 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:03 pm

FireMorey wrote:Mike Scotto said despite Shams' report, the Sixers still really want PG.

He also said if not him, trading for Butler or signing Anunoby are their next preferred options they could pivot to.

Said Anunoby is expected to get minimum of 35m per season.

Not sure Mike Scotto is a reliable source though...

Mik317 · Post #839 » by **Mik317** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:16 pm

i am okay with any of those moves honestly

its more so about what Morey does to fill out the rest of the roster imo

PG is the best "fit". Jimmy is the best playoff player. OG is the best longterm option. None of them solves all of the issues. All of them will give us more than Tobias tho. So it "fixes" that one thing.

eyeatoma · Post #840 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:22 pm

Mik317 wrote:i am okay with any of those moves honestly

its more so about what Morey does to fill out the rest of the roster imo

PG is the best "fit". Jimmy is the best playoff player. OG is the best longterm option. None of them solves all of the issues. All of them will give us more than Tobias tho. So it "fixes" that one thing.

Agreed with this.

I still don't know why Mikal/Lauri isn't brought up though. Given thme godfather offer of all our picks, Melton/Reed. There might be 2-3 teams that can compete with that, but you never know. It has to be discussed, as those two would allow us to sign a bunch of good role player, where with this you lose out on a lot of capscape to be able to sign decent or good role guys.