Windy City Sell-Off and Off-Season V1

[Colbinii]

Trade #1 - Charlotte / Chicago / Denver

Charlotte Out: Davis Bertans, Cody Martin, #42, 2025 PHI 2nd
Charlotte In: Nikola Vucevic

Chicago Out: Nikola Vucevic
Chicago In: Zeke Nnaji, Davis Bertans, #28, 2025 PHI 2nd

Denver Out: Zeke Nnaji, #28
Denver In: Cody Martin, #42

-Charlotte gets a good Center to help shoulder some offensive responsibility around LaMelo, Miller, and Bridges
-Chicago gets a 1st and clears some space in 2025-2026 while taking on Nnaji's longer and declining contract
-Denver gets a player who could help right now and a 2nd Rd Pick


Trade #2 - Chicago / Dallas

Chicago Out: Zach LaVine*, 2028 CHI 2nd, 2029 CHI 2nd
Chicago In: Tim Hardaway Jr, Josh Green, Maxi Kleber, Olivier-Maxence Prosper, 2025 DAL 1st [Top 10 protected, 2 2nds]

Dallas Out: Tim Hardaway Jr, Josh Green, Maxi Kleber, Olivier-Maxence Prosper, 2025 DAL 1st [Top 10 protected, 2 2nds]
Dallas In: Zach LaVine*, 2028 CHI 2nd, 2029 CHI 2nd

*Zach LaVine waives Trade Kicker

-Chicago acquires a 1st likely to convey in 2025 for Zach LaVine. They take on a smorgasbord of middling contracts and a mediocre -prospect in OMP
-Dallas adds a real difference maker [when healthy] in LaVine and picks up a couple future 2nds. LaVine waiving his trade kicker allows them to retain DJJ.

Resign Patrick Williams 4/80 with Year 4 Unguaranteed
-Similar to Lauri Markkanen's 4-year deal with Chicago back in 2021.

Resign Andre Drummond 1/6

Buyout Lonzo Ball for any amount less than his salary
-I don't see anyone trading a 2+ year contract for him as an expiring

Try and clear-out some of the Point Guards like Jevon Carter
-Could this be in the Denver deal instead of Cody Martin?

Roster
Coby White/Ayo Dosunmu/Jevon Carter
Josh Giddey/Tim Hardaway Jr/Dalen Terry/Julian Phillips
Josh Green/Oliver-Maxence Prosper
Patrick Williams/Zeke Nnaji
Andre Drummond/Maxi Kleber
+#11, #28

[Godaddycurse]

Trade #1 - Charlotte / Chicago / Denver

Charlotte Out: Davis Bertans, Cody Martin, #42, 2025 PHI 2nd
Charlotte In: Nikola Vucevic

i think charlotte should keep the 2nds and chicago should do it even without the 2nds

How is Dallas retaining DJJ after lavine trade? they are right up against 1st apron after this trade after accounting for capholds. they can only offer TPMLE

[Knickfan1982]

Trade #2 - Chicago / Dallas

Chicago Out: Zach LaVine*, 2028 CHI 2nd, 2029 CHI 2nd
Chicago In: Tim Hardaway Jr, Josh Green, Maxi Kleber, Olivier-Maxence Prosper, 2025 DAL 1st [Top 10 protected, 2 2nds]

Dallas Out: Tim Hardaway Jr, Josh Green, Maxi Kleber, Olivier-Maxence Prosper, 2025 DAL 1st [Top 10 protected, 2 2nds]
Dallas In: Zach LaVine*, 2028 CHI 2nd, 2029 CHI 2nd

*Zach LaVine waives Trade Kicker

-Chicago acquires a 1st likely to convey in 2025 for Zach LaVine. They take on a smorgasbord of middling contracts and a mediocre -prospect in OMP
-Dallas adds a real difference maker [when healthy] in LaVine and picks up a couple future 2nds. LaVine waiving his trade kicker allows them to retain DJJ.

I don't think 2 far future seconds are enough to convince Dallas to take on Lavine's deal AND give up a first in the process.

[Colbinii]

Trade #2 - Chicago / Dallas

Chicago Out: Zach LaVine*, 2028 CHI 2nd, 2029 CHI 2nd
Chicago In: Tim Hardaway Jr, Josh Green, Maxi Kleber, Olivier-Maxence Prosper, 2025 DAL 1st [Top 10 protected, 2 2nds]

Dallas Out: Tim Hardaway Jr, Josh Green, Maxi Kleber, Olivier-Maxence Prosper, 2025 DAL 1st [Top 10 protected, 2 2nds]
Dallas In: Zach LaVine*, 2028 CHI 2nd, 2029 CHI 2nd

*Zach LaVine waives Trade Kicker

-Chicago acquires a 1st likely to convey in 2025 for Zach LaVine. They take on a smorgasbord of middling contracts and a mediocre -prospect in OMP
-Dallas adds a real difference maker [when healthy] in LaVine and picks up a couple future 2nds. LaVine waiving his trade kicker allows them to retain DJJ.

I don't think 2 far future seconds are enough to convince Dallas to take on Lavine's deal AND give up a first in the process.

LaVine has salary for 2024-2025 and 2025-2026, which is 2 years. He has a player option in 2026-2027 that he, more likely than not, is going to decline.

Maxi Kleber Salary: 11 Million / 11 Million
Josh Green Salary: 12.6 Million / 13.7 Million / 14.7 Million

Zack LaVine Salary: 43 Million / 46 Million / 49 Million [Player Option]

Dallas essentially consolidates Josh Green's 2026-2027 Salary into the 2025-2026 season for LaVine's salary in 2025-2026 [A few Million less than LaVine's].

If you think there is a high probability LaVine is going to Opt-in to the player option in 2026-2027 AND be injured/hurt, then this could be something where the teams quibble over the value. But there is some clear upside as LaVine is, at his best, an All-Star and Top 30 guy in the NBA.

[pipfan]

I think Char, Det, Sac and a few others will offer neutral value. As soon as Mitchell extends with Clev, I think BRK offers Simmons and something.

I don't think Dallas is a match for Lavine-too expensive

[wemby]

LaVine has salary for 2024-2025 and 2025-2026, which is 2 years. He has a player option in 2026-2027 that he, more likely than not, is going to decline.

I highly doubt a 31 year old Lavine is going to pass up on 49 million guaranteed, given his decline in play and injury history. Certainly wouldn't take on his contract assuming that to be the case.

[jayjaysee]

Dallas needs to cut about 10 million to give DJJ the full MLE.

LaVine means Dallas can only give DJJ the taxMLE unless you’re also losing Gafford? Maybe I’m missing something though?

I don’t think it’s worth it given the depth, asset cost, and restrictions..

[Texas Chuck]

Dallas needs to cut about 10 million to give DJJ the full MLE.

LaVine means Dallas can only give DJJ the taxMLE unless you’re also losing Gafford? Maybe I’m missing something though?

I don’t think it’s worth it given the depth, asset cost, and restrictions..

Same. I do think Dallas could be a LaVine team, but its tough. It needs Jones to take the tax MLE and the OP's deal definitely needs Powell instead of Prosper. If that swings the value too far to Dallas, then okay its just another reason to avoid it. But Dallas will need all the cheap potential contributors possible and since Prosper isn't valued as much of anything, better to let the good, expensive team keep him.

[jayjaysee]

LaVine has salary for 2024-2025 and 2025-2026, which is 2 years. He has a player option in 2026-2027 that he, more likely than not, is going to decline.

I highly doubt a 31 year old Lavine is going to pass up on 49 million guaranteed, given his decline in play and injury history. Certainly wouldn't take on his contract assuming that to be the case.

A healthy 31 year old LaVine might think he can get a 25% max if he has a good year .

Give up 5-6 million in year one to lock up 4 years.

I don’t think so, but it seems reasonable with a 170ish million dollar cap..

[jayjaysee]

Dallas needs to cut about 10 million to give DJJ the full MLE.

LaVine means Dallas can only give DJJ the taxMLE unless you’re also losing Gafford? Maybe I’m missing something though?

I don’t think it’s worth it given the depth, asset cost, and restrictions..

Same. I do think Dallas could be a LaVine team, but its tough. It needs Jones to take the tax MLE and the OP's deal definitely needs Powell instead of Prosper. If that swings the value too far to Dallas, then okay its just another reason to avoid it. But Dallas will need all the cheap potential contributors possible and since Prosper isn't valued as much of anything, better to let the good, expensive team keep him.

Yeah if DJJ takes a 1+1po Taxmle and Prosper/Powell are swapped - Dallas should do this.

[wemby]

LaVine has salary for 2024-2025 and 2025-2026, which is 2 years. He has a player option in 2026-2027 that he, more likely than not, is going to decline.

I highly doubt a 31 year old Lavine is going to pass up on 49 million guaranteed, given his decline in play and injury history. Certainly wouldn't take on his contract assuming that to be the case.

A healthy 31 year old LaVine might think he can get a 25% max if he has a good year .

Give up 5-6 million in year one to lock up 4 years.

I don’t think so, but it seems reasonable with a 170ish million dollar cap..

A "healthy Lavine" is an oxymoron, anyone who takes on his contract assuming he'll decline his third year is taking a very dumb risk.

[Colbinii]

LaVine has salary for 2024-2025 and 2025-2026, which is 2 years. He has a player option in 2026-2027 that he, more likely than not, is going to decline.

I highly doubt a 31 year old Lavine is going to pass up on 49 million guaranteed, given his decline in play and injury history. Certainly wouldn't take on his contract assuming that to be the case.

A healthy 31 year old LaVine might think he can get a 25% max if he has a good year .

Give up 5-6 million in year one to lock up 4 years.

I don’t think so, but it seems reasonable with a 170ish million dollar cap..

You're right.

[Texas Chuck]

I highly doubt a 31 year old Lavine is going to pass up on 49 million guaranteed, given his decline in play and injury history. Certainly wouldn't take on his contract assuming that to be the case.

A healthy 31 year old LaVine might think he can get a 25% max if he has a good year .

Give up 5-6 million in year one to lock up 4 years.

I don’t think so, but it seems reasonable with a 170ish million dollar cap..

A "healthy Lavine" is an oxymoron, anyone who takes on his contract assuming he'll decline his third year is taking a very dumb risk.

Nobody ever takes on a contract of this size with an option without being very aware it might be picked up. Nobody would be going into this blind. Doesn't matter who the player is. A lot can change in 2 years. Now we have seen teams talk the player into declining the option as part of the trade. If the player wants out badly enough, they might do it. Note: LaVine would not do this, nor should he do that.

But this idea that Dallas (or any team) would be hoodwinked by the Bulls isn't worthy of mention.

[wemby]

A healthy 31 year old LaVine might think he can get a 25% max if he has a good year .

Give up 5-6 million in year one to lock up 4 years.

I don’t think so, but it seems reasonable with a 170ish million dollar cap..

A "healthy Lavine" is an oxymoron, anyone who takes on his contract assuming he'll decline his third year is taking a very dumb risk.

Nobody ever takes on a contract of this size with an option without being very aware it might be picked up. Nobody would be going into this blind. Doesn't matter who the player is. A lot can change in 2 years. Now we have seen teams talk the player into declining the option as part of the trade. If the player wants out badly enough, they might do it. Note: LaVine would not do this, nor should he do that.

But this idea that Dallas (or any team) would be hoodwinked by the Bulls isn't worthy of mention.

That was my point, saying he might decline his player option as a selling point is silly.

[Knickfan1982]

Trade #2 - Chicago / Dallas

Chicago Out: Zach LaVine*, 2028 CHI 2nd, 2029 CHI 2nd
Chicago In: Tim Hardaway Jr, Josh Green, Maxi Kleber, Olivier-Maxence Prosper, 2025 DAL 1st [Top 10 protected, 2 2nds]

Dallas Out: Tim Hardaway Jr, Josh Green, Maxi Kleber, Olivier-Maxence Prosper, 2025 DAL 1st [Top 10 protected, 2 2nds]
Dallas In: Zach LaVine*, 2028 CHI 2nd, 2029 CHI 2nd

*Zach LaVine waives Trade Kicker

-Chicago acquires a 1st likely to convey in 2025 for Zach LaVine. They take on a smorgasbord of middling contracts and a mediocre -prospect in OMP
-Dallas adds a real difference maker [when healthy] in LaVine and picks up a couple future 2nds. LaVine waiving his trade kicker allows them to retain DJJ.

I don't think 2 far future seconds are enough to convince Dallas to take on Lavine's deal AND give up a first in the process.

LaVine has salary for 2024-2025 and 2025-2026, which is 2 years. He has a player option in 2026-2027 that he, more likely than not, is going to decline.

Maxi Kleber Salary: 11 Million / 11 Million
Josh Green Salary: 12.6 Million / 13.7 Million / 14.7 Million

Zack LaVine Salary: 43 Million / 46 Million / 49 Million [Player Option]

Dallas essentially consolidates Josh Green's 2026-2027 Salary into the 2025-2026 season for LaVine's salary in 2025-2026 [A few Million less than LaVine's].

If you think there is a high probability LaVine is going to Opt-in to the player option in 2026-2027 AND be injured/hurt, then this could be something where the teams quibble over the value. But there is some clear upside as LaVine is, at his best, an All-Star and Top 30 guy in the NBA.

I really don't see him turning down a guaranteed 50 million dollar deal. In the 20's or very low 30's sure. But 50 million...not unless he's healthy and turns back in 2020-2021 Lavine.

[Colbinii]

A "healthy Lavine" is an oxymoron, anyone who takes on his contract assuming he'll decline his third year is taking a very dumb risk.

Nobody ever takes on a contract of this size with an option without being very aware it might be picked up. Nobody would be going into this blind. Doesn't matter who the player is. A lot can change in 2 years. Now we have seen teams talk the player into declining the option as part of the trade. If the player wants out badly enough, they might do it. Note: LaVine would not do this, nor should he do that.

But this idea that Dallas (or any team) would be hoodwinked by the Bulls isn't worthy of mention.

That was my point, saying he might decline his player option as a selling point is silly.

It isn't a selling point, it's reality.

He has a player option in 2026-2027 that he, more likely than not, is going to decline.

[wemby]

Nobody ever takes on a contract of this size with an option without being very aware it might be picked up. Nobody would be going into this blind. Doesn't matter who the player is. A lot can change in 2 years. Now we have seen teams talk the player into declining the option as part of the trade. If the player wants out badly enough, they might do it. Note: LaVine would not do this, nor should he do that.

But this idea that Dallas (or any team) would be hoodwinked by the Bulls isn't worthy of mention.

That was my point, saying he might decline his player option as a selling point is silly.

It isn't a selling point, it's reality.

He has a player option in 2026-2027 that he, more likely than not, is going to decline.

The only reality is that he has a player option, the notion that he "more likely than not, is going to decline" is opinion, not fact.

[Colbinii]

That was my point, saying he might decline his player option as a selling point is silly.

It isn't a selling point, it's reality.

He has a player option in 2026-2027 that he, more likely than not, is going to decline.

The only reality is that he has a player option, the notion that he "more likely than not, is going to decline" is opinion, not fact.

Sure, all valuations of players are opinion.

[SkyHook]

Bingo. He has a player option. He might decline it. We can all speculate as to the likelihood that he opts out; I expect a greater likelihood that he doesn't.

[daoneandonly]

I think its been mentioned by many sources that there is very little market for Lavine. Dont see why a team that just made the Finals with a near max small guard with an injury history should trade a first, a recent first, and an expiring for Lavine.