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Post#301 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:37 pm

JaKobe Walter top 5, now you know that it is the time when the lies, deceptions and crazy rumors start flying.

Apparently, Sarr doesn't want to play in ATL, and has been avoiding a workout for them. Does he want to force his way to SA and create another twin towers part deux?
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Post#302 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:06 pm

Would Kessler plus #10 be able to get Sarr at #2? Would adding one of the Cavs/TWolves 2025 pick do it?

Would the Wizards value Kessler's rim protection and in addition getting a top 10 player (plus maybe another FRP) over just Sarr where they clearly need to rebuild?

I love Kessler, especially his rim protection, but he is limited as a traditional big in a game that is going away from that. I'm not certain if Sarr is really a C or a PF, but certainly fits the mold of a modern big, and drafting him would make me more excited about the future of the Jazz.
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Post#303 » by Inigo Montoya » Sat Jun 22, 2024 12:00 pm

If the Wizards like Kessler so much they simply draft Clingan.
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Post#304 » by Hoops Addict » Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:09 am

Inigo Montoya wrote:I'm against drafting Edey or Knecht with the #10 pick. The Jazz need high upside players and while I think both can be decent players in the league, they don't give the Jazz upside .


Disagree, I think Edyey could have big upside since he has a standing reach and wingspan as big as Rudy Gobert.
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Post#305 » by Inigo Montoya » Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:13 pm

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Inigo Montoya wrote:I'm against drafting Edey or Knecht with the #10 pick. The Jazz need high upside players and while I think both can be decent players in the league, they don't give the Jazz upside .


Disagree, I think Edyey could have big upside since he has a standing reach and wingspan as big as Rudy Gobert.

He'll probably be better than Kessler on offense because he's more skilled but I don't know if he'll be better defensively as he's heavier and not as mobile. In the end, I don't think he'll be such a big upgrade over Kessler that would warrant the Jazz picking him at #10 when they have much much bigger holes to fill in other positions. Unless there is a talent that is simply on another level in the C position, I'd rather the Jazz go for upside in a different position.
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Post#306 » by AingesBurner » Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:27 pm

I’m out on Edey. He’s a slow footed big man, don’t think Gobert, think Hibbert.
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Post#307 » by dr0welf » Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:02 pm

Edey will be going against many guys his size in the NBA. In college he was a bull in a china shop. He just bullied his way around, I doubt he gets the same PER in the NBA.
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Post#308 » by SoCalJazzFan » Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:25 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:If the Wizards like Kessler so much they simply draft Clingan.

But they could walk away with Kessler and the #10 pick, most likely a wing or PG. Jazz get their athletic, spacing big man in Sarr. Personally, I would do it if I were the Jazz.
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Post#309 » by Jampod » Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:29 pm

If we move up and draft Sheppard or Castle, I will be happy come draft day.

Everything I’m reading on Jazz twitter makes it seem like we aren’t high on any of the wing prospects.
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Post#310 » by Inigo Montoya » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:00 pm

I wouldn't mind drafting Sheppard and #10 but I wouldn't trade up for a player who looks like he has rather limited upside (but high floor). Sheppard will be a nice and useful player but I don't see the point of trading up for such a player. Also, not a fan of the fit with George.
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Post#311 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:16 pm

I don't know I'd Locke is as connected, but if we are doing Locke watch I assume that we are picking Devin Carter.
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Post#312 » by SoCalJazzFan » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:34 pm

babyjax13 wrote:I don't know I'd Locke is as connected, but if we are doing Locke watch I assume that we are picking Devin Carter.

It sure seems that way.

Tony Jones talks him up a lot too.

However, Carter had very pedestrian Frosh and Soph years in college before busting out this past season. His perimeter defense would be welcome, but is that enough to draft him #10 over the likes of Topic, Holland or Williams? Also, he really isn't a typical PG, more of like a scoring guard. At only 6'3".
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Post#313 » by Jampod » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:54 pm

babyjax13 wrote:I don't know I'd Locke is as connected, but if we are doing Locke watch I assume that we are picking Devin Carter.



Locke is definitely not as connected as we think considering he can’t pronounce Rissacher.
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Post#314 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:58 pm

Jampod wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:I don't know I'd Locke is as connected, but if we are doing Locke watch I assume that we are picking Devin Carter.



Locke is definitely not as connected as we think considering he can’t pronounce Rissacher.

Well, he's never been able to pronounce about 80 percent of the draft and still has basically leaked a bunch of Utah's picks. I do think that with Lindsay out that he lost a lot of his connections, it seemed like at that point Tony Jones had better intel.
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Post#315 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:00 pm

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babyjax13 wrote:I don't know I'd Locke is as connected, but if we are doing Locke watch I assume that we are picking Devin Carter.

It sure seems that way.

Tony Jones talks him up a lot too.

However, Carter had very pedestrian Frosh and Soph years in college before busting out this past season. His perimeter defense would be welcome, but is that enough to draft him #10 over the likes of Topic, Holland or Williams? Also, he really isn't a typical PG, more of like a scoring guard. At only 6'3".

I am worried about the shot, but I think there are reasons to be open to it improving:
1) 88% from the line
2) the release looks nice, what does not is the setup - he shoots from below the chin - I think if he cleans that up it removes some of the inconsistency in the shot

And while I am also worried about the playmaking, he is VERY good at snaking screens and trapping guys on his back. In that respect he reminds me of George Hill, whose game I actually really liked. I'd be okay with him at 10, I just question what it would mean for George/Sexton.
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Post#316 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:08 pm

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Post#317 » by SoCalJazzFan » Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:38 pm

This is my opinion of the draft after spending some time looking into the players, etc.

Buzelis, Cody Williams, Salaun and even Risacher- if all goes right with them, they could be very good to star/borderline star players, but they could just as likely completely bust. I sincerely believe that there is bust potential for each of these players, and that some will just be Bogey-level starters at best.

Holland and Castle could be very good to star players if their playmaking and shot comes around. If not, they end up being Thybulle/Tony Allen/Dillon Brooks level players.

Sheppard, Clingan and Knecht have relatively high floors and thus safe to draft, but not very high ceilings (i.e. 4th or 5th best player on a good playoff team).

The only player that I can see that has a high floor and a potentially very high ceiling is Sarr. I think that his floor is Evan Mobley (with a better shot) or perhaps Chris Bosh. I think his floor is probably higher than Adebayo. I could see him becoming a more mobile and better perimeter defending Porzingis (if Sarr's outside shot becomes reliable). His ceiling could easily be JJJ. It might be a stretch, but there is a path for him to be even better than all of these guys if all goes right. IMO, he is unquestionably the top pick in this draft, but ATL might be scared to take him.

For every WC team, Wemby has to be part of your plan moving forward. Who can defend or counteract him? Sarr has a chance to be that player.

The question is whether the Jazz could, or would they even try to, trade up for him, and what would be the cost?
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Post#318 » by Inigo Montoya » Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:54 pm

Jampod wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:I don't know I'd Locke is as connected, but if we are doing Locke watch I assume that we are picking Devin Carter.



Locke is definitely not as connected as we think considering he can’t pronounce Rissacher.

He can't pronounce any player's name, it's incredibly annoying and also unprofessional since he does this for a living, not to mention he has other people (Leif Thulin, for example) who can tell him how to pronounce those names and also had since the trade deadline to know how to pronounce the players in the draft, or that he started watching tape a few weeks ago (where they also say the player's names most likely). It's insufferable.
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Post#319 » by Jampod » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:10 am

https://sports.yahoo.com/with-new-coach-jj-redick-at-the-helm-the-lakers-draft-strategy-beginning-to-take-shape-232824674.html

Jazz are in the mix for #3 pick as well as Brooklyn. Also says we are trying to trade for Mikal Bridges. I usually believe Jake Fischer’s reporting.
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Post#320 » by Jampod » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:06 pm

Reading in between the lines here, but I’m hoping for chaos in the top 5 tomorrow. Let’s say Reed Sheppard goes #1 overall. If it happens, Houston may have a deal in place with the Jazz to move to 10. Jazz would probably take Castle at 3 in this hypothetical scenario.
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