Why Are We Extending Scottie Now And Not Later In The Season?

[geokilla]

Wouldn't it make more sense to extend him in the season or even next off season so we can evaluate to see whether he truly deserves the max contract? We still have his rights even if he's a free agent next off season don't we? I don't see the point in extending him now. If he suddenly becomes Ben Simmons lite and loses the ability to pay, Scottie just got a max and we're screwed for at least the next 5 years.

[Consequence]

Because he has already met the threshold of accomplishment for a 25% max and the downside scenario you cooked up here is very rare. It's worth more to build the relationship with the player and agent than to protect against that small risk. Real people are involved here, not just numbers.

[ForeverTFC]

Because that's not how the NBA works. You take care of your young guys and show your commitment. Also, his cap hold is so high that not having the extension on the books going into FA doesn't matter.

[TheGeneral99]

He's a 22 year old all-star, that's why.

[Scase]

Because we've already seen how waiting works with FVV/Siakam, you don't poison the well with a 22 year old who made an all star game in his 3rd year. This is a normal approach, using Simmons as a cautionary tale is absurd, that has happened basically once.

Not offering it now is high risk, low reward.

[bobbyp3588]

Wouldn't it make more sense to extend him in the season or even next off season so we can evaluate to see whether he truly deserves the max contract? We still have his rights even if he's a free agent next off season don't we? I don't see the point in extending him now. If he suddenly becomes Ben Simmons lite and loses the ability to pay, Scottie just got a max and we're screwed for at least the next 5 years.

Green font???

I’m not sure if you’re serious. Getting this done as early as possible goes a long way in further strengthening the bond between team and face of the team for the foreseeable future. There are literally dozens of excellent reasons to keep Scottie as happy as he can possibly be, from league wide PR to simply giving 100% all day every day cause he believes in those who’ve chosen to believe in him…. It’s practically common sense really.

[TheGeneral99]

Wouldn't it make more sense to extend him in the season or even next off season so we can evaluate to see whether he truly deserves the max contract? We still have his rights even if he's a free agent next off season don't we? I don't see the point in extending him now. If he suddenly becomes Ben Simmons lite and loses the ability to pay, Scottie just got a max and we're screwed for at least the next 5 years.

Ben Simmons never developed the ability to shoot, was a terrible free throw shooter, and never even took 3s. After his 3rd season Simmons still wasn't taking any jump shots and shot 62% from the line.

Barnes since his rookie season has shot above 73% from the line and last year shot 34% from 3 on 5 attempts a game. Last year his splits were 48%fg, 34%3fg and 78%ft as a #1 option on high volume...very good efficiency for a 22 year old that is still growing.

Weird comparison.

[Jadoogar]

Wouldn't it make more sense to extend him in the season or even next off season so we can evaluate to see whether he truly deserves the max contract? We still have his rights even if he's a free agent next off season don't we? I don't see the point in extending him now. If he suddenly becomes Ben Simmons lite and loses the ability to pay, Scottie just got a max and we're screwed for at least the next 5 years.

Players like this are almost always extended early unless there is a specific reason not to (like Maxey, he will get the max but they are using his low cap hold). Scottie's caphold is going to be a lot higher than Maxey since he was the 4th pick.

We (the fans) forget that these are people, not just contracts. It's important to show Scottie that the team is committed to him. Wasn't waiting to extend Kawhi the first step in the breakup between him and the spurs?

[ArthurVandelay]

yknow all the paranoid posters who talk about Scottie leaving?

Don’t give him the max when he’s eligible and that actually becomes a thing

[MiamiSPX]

Whether he "deserves" it or not is subjective. If the Raps told him to wait so they can assess whether or not they want to give it to him, his agent would immediately ask them to trade him to one of the other 20 teams that would gladly pay him the maximum for which he is eligible.

[SFour]

I knew Ben Simmons was a fraud early on....Barnes isn't that.

The only question for Barnes is will or will he not be a top 10 player.

[will]

It's Scottish, baybee.

Ain't waiting.

[geokilla]

I'm only using Ben Simmons as a worst case scenario. With the max contract, he's expected to take a huge step forward, or maybe even a leap. If he doesn't like Gary Trent didn't, then that doesn't make him an overpayment and we're stuck for the next 5 or more years as he'd become untradable. I understand the human part of the game and needing to keep him happy but even if we waited a 2 months to see how the off season plays out, wouldn't that have been more beneficial for both parties?

[Parataxis]

I knew Ben Simmons was a fraud early on....Barnes isn't that.

The only question for Barnes is will or will he not be a top 10 player.

And the thing about today's NBA, is that Max contracts aren't just for top-10 players. They're for top 30 players, if not more.

Might not like it, but that's just the reality of the league now.

[brownbobcat]

Because that's not how the NBA works. You take care of your young guys and show your commitment. Also, his cap hold is so high that not having the extension on the books going into FA doesn't matter.

The difference between his caphold & the 25% max is something like $13M, plus big money free agents have just never been a great strategy to pursue for Toronto.

[sofargone]

i might be wrong but im pretty sure the deadline for rookie max extension is before the season or the first week of the season.

[kalel123]

Barnes has done enough to warrant rookie max extension. You don't F around and delay that and risk damaging the relationship with the player and the agent, not to mention also damaging the team's reputation by being cheap and difficult to deal with.

There are guys that'd be worth going to RFA with. With someone like Barnes, it'll be seen as an insult.

[SpezNc]

Wouldn't it make more sense to extend him in the season or even next off season so we can evaluate to see whether he truly deserves the max contract? We still have his rights even if he's a free agent next off season don't we? I don't see the point in extending him now. If he suddenly becomes Ben Simmons lite and loses the ability to pay, Scottie just got a max and we're screwed for at least the next 5 years.

Because a team cannot operate with the absolute catastrophic scenario in mind.

The difference with the level he played last year and a max salary is not that high

O.G going to get close to the max
Siakam got the max

Quickley going to get around 18% of salary cap.
Barnes earning 25% is a no brainer
To get to 30% he need to make an all nba team . If he does I don’t think anyone will complain about getting 30%.

[Tor_Raps]

Sixers made Maxey wait because they had a big plan around this years free agency. Don't think we had any excuse to not give Barnes the max even though it's entirely to our benefit to give him the max as late as possible from a financial standpoint.

However, you risk ruining the relationship and we all know players run this league so that's why he's getting it now.

[ishoy123]

Barnes has done enough to warrant rookie max extension. You don't F around and delay that and risk damaging the relationship with the player and the agent, not to mention also damaging the team's reputation by being cheap and difficult to deal with.

Any team in this situation was going to give Barnes the rookie max extension. This should not be a controversial decision in the slightest.