Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Darvin Returns

[Bernman]

If we figure out how to turn Brook and Bobby into Stewart and Dort I’d be pretty happy.

W/ all these trades of bigs for bigs, even in 3-way trades, I've never gotten why all these teams wouldn't keep the younger, arguably better options, or the other team trade for them instead.

If it's too good to be true, it probably isn't. You shouldn't be wholly satisfied after you make a trade, unless you're dealing w/ the Bucks under Kohl or Lasry, & them or their right-hand men got fixated on studs like Greivis Vazquez.

[Rockmaninoff]

I still think Pat for Thybulle as a framework feels like a likely outcome. Pat makes about 1.6m less than Thybulle, so we'd have to add a player, which wouldn't have to be aggregated as Pat for Thybulle works as an even up trade and Portland could take an additional player in on a trade exception. Any small contract we have (incl. Livingston or AJJ) would work, although my gut says Pat and MarJon is the formula.

Thybulle/Robert Williams

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Pat/Portis/Marjon

[MickeyDavis]

For any/all who will be disappointed if we don't make any movies soon, the Dame trade happened on October 12. Jrue wasn't acquired until late November. I don't anticipate any huge moves like those but not all deals are done in early July.

[tydett]

For any/all who will be disappointed if we don't make any movies soon, the Dame trade happened on October 12. Jrue wasn't acquired until late November. I don't anticipate any huge moves like those but not all deals are done in early July.

Think there's only one person around here who fits the bill

[machu46]

With the Kings shopping #13, I wonder if there's some sort of framework that has us sending Bobby to Sac and then sending #13 and #23 somewhere (or keeping them altogether).

They were discussing on one of the podcasts I listened to today (can’t remember if it was Vecenie or Russilo but it was one of them) about whether or not OKC should trade #12 for Brook Lopez. They ultimately said no.


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[machu46]

For any/all who will be disappointed if we don't make any movies soon, the Dame trade happened on October 12. Jrue wasn't acquired until late November. I don't anticipate any huge moves like those but not all deals are done in early July.

To be fair, the Jrue trade was right before or right after the NBA Draft. That was just one of the weird offseason schedules.


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[paulpressey25]

With the Kings shopping #13, I wonder if there's some sort of framework that has us sending Bobby to Sac and then sending #13 and #23 somewhere (or keeping them altogether).

Still believe that Vivek is once again one of the weak sisters, and want Horst to do his version of the Marques Johnson and friends for Terry Cummings and friends re-load deal.

Make all four of these guys available (Bobby, Khris, Brook, Pat) and both picks. See if we can get a haul back.

[Bernman]

I don't think there's much value in the 13th pick this yr. It's a bad range. You should probably take a guy you could have gotten at 23. But I guess it shows the Kings are open for business & as I've said they have some players of interest.

We still need a smaller ball big option we could trust down the stretch of games next yr. Would Philly do Paul Reed for Pat + 33/another high 2nd we picked up in another trade? Though Philly may just want to waive Reed, cuz apparently his deal was contingently ng'ed & they could use space for FA's. In which case we could sell Reed on a bigger role here in a prove it deal.

[emunney]

I still think Pat for Thybulle as a framework feels like a likely outcome. Pat makes about 1.6m less than Thybulle, so we'd have to add a player, which wouldn't have to be aggregated as Pat for Thybulle works as an even up trade and Portland could take an additional player in on a trade exception. Any small contract we have (incl. Livingston or AJJ) would work, although my gut says Pat and MarJon is the formula.

Thybulle/Robert Williams

for

Pat/Portis/Marjon

I'm on this 1000% pending Bob's physical.

[paulpressey25]

I'm on this 1000% pending Bob's physical.

On paper that deal looks great. I'm not convinced Timelord can ever play more than 40 games a year. Then again, I'd like a Portland deal more if Brogdon were part of the return (and his injury issues).

But does Portland really need any of our guys? Feels like a 3rd team needed.

[MickeyDavis]

For any/all who will be disappointed if we don't make any movies soon, the Dame trade happened on October 12. Jrue wasn't acquired until late November. I don't anticipate any huge moves like those but not all deals are done in early July.

To be fair, the Jrue trade was right before or right after the NBA Draft. That was just one of the weird offseason schedules.


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That's right. The delayed season.

[ShootingtheJ]

If we figure out how to turn Brook and Bobby into Stewart and Dort I’d be pretty happy.

W/ all these trades of bigs for bigs, even in 3-way trades, I've never gotten why all these teams wouldn't keep the younger, arguably better options, or the other team trade for them instead.

If it's too good to be true, it probably isn't. You shouldn't be wholly satisfied after you make a trade, unless you're dealing w/ the Bucks under Kohl or Lasry, & them or their right-hand men got fixated on studs like Greivis Vazquez.

There's still plenty of dumb teams to deal with. The Grizzlies gave up 2- 1sts for Marcus Smart last year. Basically gave the Celtics the championship.

[rayallenscalves]

Bucks in: Steven Adams, Tari Eason, DeAndre Hunter, #44 (via Houston)
Bucks out: Brook, Bobby, Pat (#33)

Houston in: Brook, #33
Houston out: Adams, Eason, #44

Atlanta in: Bobby, Pat
Atlanta out: Hunter

Could also break this into two separate deals if necessary. Bucks keep a big body to protect Giannis and pickup some switchable wings. Rockets get the big man they've been looking for. Hawks get to dump some long-term money.

Dame/Monte Morris or Dennis Smith or Delon Wright or PatBev
Andre/Green/Beau
Midds/Hunter/Beau
Giannis/Eason
Adams/#23 (hopefully Ware)

Could also run out a small-ball death lineup of Dame, Hunter, Midds, Eason and Giannis. Hell, maybe go big with the starting lineup and insert Hunter at the 2.

[JRoy]

I still think Pat for Thybulle as a framework feels like a likely outcome. Pat makes about 1.6m less than Thybulle, so we'd have to add a player, which wouldn't have to be aggregated as Pat for Thybulle works as an even up trade and Portland could take an additional player in on a trade exception. Any small contract we have (incl. Livingston or AJJ) would work, although my gut says Pat and MarJon is the formula.

Thybulle/Robert Williams

for

Pat/Portis/Marjon

POR politely declines.

[JRoy]

I'm on this 1000% pending Bob's physical.

On paper that deal looks great. I'm not convinced Timelord can ever play more than 40 games a year. Then again, I'd like a Portland deal more if Brogdon were part of the return (and his injury issues).

But does Portland really need any of our guys? Feels like a 3rd team needed.

I don’t think we are good trade partners.

POR wants FRP.

[Matches Malone]

We've heard that before

[jakecronus8]

Can’t believe I’m saying this but desperate times, etc…

I’m checking in on Lonzo.

If he’s healthy enough by the time the regular season is winding down he could be an ideal 5th starter if he buys into the role. Defender/facilitator/spot up guy. Can’t think of a better boom/bust guy for us. On a one year deal I don’t see the harm (obviously pending you get a good look at his medicals).

[Ron Swanson]

I've been a pretty big proponent of the "buy low on a distressed asset" idea, but Lonzo? Robert Williams? Isaac? These dudes still have to be able to physically suit up for games. Those guys can't.

[machu46]

Can’t believe I’m saying this but desperate times, etc…

I’m checking in on Lonzo.

If he’s healthy enough by the time the regular season is winding down he could be an ideal 5th starter if he buys into the role. Defender/facilitator/spot up guy. Can’t think of a better boom/bust guy for us. On a one year deal I don’t see the harm (obviously pending you get a good look at his medicals).

I agree but that’s a big if with the medicals


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[Matches Malone]

There are videos of Lonzo dunking again, but I don't trust it. Those big baller brand shoes gave him 65-year-old knees.