Scottie Barnes, Raptors Agree To Five-Year Extension Worth Up To $270M

[RealGM Wiretap]

Scottie Barnes and the Toronto Raptors have agreed to a five-year maximum contract worth up to $270 million if he qualifies for the Rose rule with an All-NBA selection during the 24-25 season.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/ESPN

[Pickled Prunes]

Once again, a player's salary is left to the voting media. Add to that that his team might be motivated to hold him out of a few games to make him ineligible for All-NBA. This needs to be fixed.

[t-rexCity]

I like Scottie but he's not worth the max.

[CarraT]

Too many max guys in this league.

[HaydukesRedux]

Is the thinking, in part, that in four years his annual salary will be considered a bargain?

I do not get it. Great young talent but 54m/yr???

[phenith]

This was basically a foregone conclusion after OG and Pascal were traded.
He's a solid all around player with his only real weakness being his 3pt shooting, he actually reminds me a lot of Pascal.
Being only 23 year old and an all star with more upside makes this contract palpable, but he's going to have to take another leap forward this year to become a true #1 option and prove he's worth it.

[Luv those Knicks]

Once again, a player's salary is left to the voting media. Add to that that his team might be motivated to hold him out of a few games to make him ineligible for All-NBA. This needs to be fixed.

I'm not inside Scotty's head, but I think he knows this. I think, signing this contract, but he and Toronto knew that holding him out a few games or playing him fewer minutes was a possibility.

I think Toronto would get in trouble if they sat a player who doesn't want to sit, so if he stays healthy, he'll make the minimum number of games, but fewer minutes and decreasing the odds of all NBA is possible.

The NBA's system is weird, but I don't object to this as much as you do.

[Pickled Prunes]

Once again, a player's salary is left to the voting media. Add to that that his team might be motivated to hold him out of a few games to make him ineligible for All-NBA. This needs to be fixed.

I'm not inside Scotty's head, but I think he knows this. I think, signing this contract, but he and Toronto knew that holding him out a few games or playing him fewer minutes was a possibility.

I think Toronto would get in trouble if they sat a player who doesn't want to sit, so if he stays healthy, he'll make the minimum number of games, but fewer minutes and decreasing the odds of all NBA is possible.

The NBA's system is weird, but I don't object to this as much as you do.

The training staff decides when a player is ready to go. Players get frustrated by it all the time. Holding a player out an extra game or two when returning from injury won't look suspicious. There is also the opposite negative affect of a player coming back too soon ala Haliburton.

I am not suggesting that a team would actually cheat code this, but we are talking about a lot of money. At some point a player is going to feel cheated and cry foul. We do know that contracts are on the minds of the voters because they have told us as much. It's just a bad system.

I am all for max contracts, but If Barnes is worth a 30% max, TOR should be allowed to give it to him. And if they want to put their own criteria on the pay bump (FG%, PPG, STL, Games played, etc...) they should be allowed to do that as well. The media and their emotions should have nothing to do with player salaries.

[Luv those Knicks]

The training staff decides when a player is ready to go. Players get frustrated by it all the time. Holding a player out an extra game or two when returning from injury won't look suspicious. There is also the opposite negative affect of a player coming back too soon ala Haliburton.

I am not suggesting that a team would actually cheat code this, but we are talking about a lot of money. At some point a player is going to feel cheated and cry foul. We do know that contracts are on the minds of the voters because they have told us as much. It's just a bad system.

I am all for max contracts, but If Barnes is worth a 30% max, TOR should be allowed to give it to him. And if they want to put their own criteria on the pay bump (FG%, PPG, STL, Games played, etc...) they should be allowed to do that as well. The media and their emotions should have nothing to do with player salaries.

Most people think he's not worth 30%, but if he shows continued improvement, maybe he could be. I think this is a case where this kind of contract situation makes a bit of sense because the players probably not worth the max bonus, but they're letting him play for it.

I could see your complaint happening under the right circumstance, but I think Barnes is going to be fairly paid even if he doesn't get the max bonus.

[Pickled Prunes]

The training staff decides when a player is ready to go. Players get frustrated by it all the time. Holding a player out an extra game or two when returning from injury won't look suspicious. There is also the opposite negative affect of a player coming back too soon ala Haliburton.

I am not suggesting that a team would actually cheat code this, but we are talking about a lot of money. At some point a player is going to feel cheated and cry foul. We do know that contracts are on the minds of the voters because they have told us as much. It's just a bad system.

I am all for max contracts, but If Barnes is worth a 30% max, TOR should be allowed to give it to him. And if they want to put their own criteria on the pay bump (FG%, PPG, STL, Games played, etc...) they should be allowed to do that as well. The media and their emotions should have nothing to do with player salaries.

Most people think he's not worth 30%, but if he shows continued improvement, maybe he could be. I think this is a case where this kind of contract situation makes a bit of sense because the players probably not worth the max bonus, but they're letting him play for it.

I could see your complaint happening under the right circumstance, but I think Barnes is going to be fairly paid even if he doesn't get the max bonus.

I'm actually not lobbying for the players. The team could have Barnes earn it on the court by making the 30% max contingent on him averaging 21/8/6 with a .600 TS%. The increase in efficiency would be the toughest part of that equation... As it stands, the voters will feel obligated to vote for him even if he hasn't quite earned it. That will kind of screw the organization because, as you said, he's probably not worth 30%.

[Luv those Knicks]

I'm actually not lobbying for the players. The team could have Barnes earn it on the court by making the 30% max contingent on him averaging 21/8/6 with a .600 TS%. The increase in efficiency would be the toughest part of that equation... As it stands, the voters will feel obligated to vote for him even if he hasn't quite earned it. That will kind of screw the organization because, as you said, he's probably not worth 30%.

I hear what you're saying, and I'm not gung ho about this being a fair deal on both sides. It feels like a bit of an overpay and teams do tend to overpay their players sometimes, . . . well, not always, but it's not uncommon.

It's like when they offer a player an extra 1-2 million if he makes the MVP, which is generally considered a long shot. This is like that, only it's a ton more money.

What are the odds he gets the 30% by making all NBA? . . . who's a betting man here.

I'm thinking 1 in 4. It's a weird contract situation. But I still don't hate it.