Harrison Barnes for Mitchell Robinson

[Knickfan1982]

Sure, but Barnes is better than most of those guys if you can afford him.

But he's also a little over 3 million dollars more expensive than Robinson this year and roughly 6 million more expensive next season. So to my point earlier the Knicks will need additional compensation for any Barnes/Robinson swap. Otherwise there is no reason for the Knicks to give up the younger, cheaper and better player.

I have no idea the value of Robinson vs Barnes. I have Robinson the more impactful player. And as you point out, cheaper. OTOH Barnes is more durable and because of position you gain flexibility. If IH is back and playing starter's minutes you can get a backup center on the min or close but its harder to get a solid forward who shoots well and is good enough defensively to stay on the court for cheap.

I think in some ways Barnes represents a better value in certain circumstances even if I think Robinson is better. Dallas sort of has this issue with Gafford at the moment. He's a better player than say Josh Green, but if Lively continues to step forward his role gets marginalized which is one of the reasons I'm open to including him in deals if it upgrades elsewhere rather than just have that value sitting on the bench more.

Yea...I can see the appeal of bringing in Barnes. A guy who can bounce defensively between the 3 and 4 while spreading the floor would be ideal. But from what I've heard he's lost a step defensively. That might not be such a big deal since he's going to take on a smaller role for us so he should be fresher. But at what cost? Bogi...sure. I would deal Bogi straight up for Barnes. But when it comes to Robinson even with his injury history the idea of moving him seems more concerned about finances than anything on the court.

[patman66]

Can Robinson and Sabonis work in big minutes? Certainly the interior defense gets better, but Robinson’s addition would change the offense significantly.
Fox
Monk
Murray
Sabonis
Robinson

I don’t know how to feel about that lineup. Maybe crazy enough that it could work.

Who plays center for the Knicks? Lauri will get more money than what the knicks can pay him. What about Mitchel and Barnes to the wolves for Reid. Morris is a FA, Anderson is a FA, Reid is almost redundant.

Not even close in value. Reid could start for most teams and if it wasn’t for KAT/Gorbert, he would be in Minnesota.

Barnes’s best days are behind him. He’s ok but not worth his contract, so he’s basically neutral value. This package just doesn’t get you close to Reid in value.

I stand corrected, I had him as a MLE guy, I think I got his deal and Richaun Holmes numbers mixed up in my head. Yeah barnes at 18 is a negative deal. Huerter and Mitchell? Or Lyles + Mitchell if you want to save money. Yeah he could start for a lot of teams, But he is in his last yer and most likely is gone, But he would not start on the kings either.

[nykballa2k4]

Why would the Knicks trade their C? They’re gonna lose Isiah H. already, right?

Barnes is the type of player that we could use. I think the idea is that we are going to draft a C to develop, we have Sims in a pinch already, we are only doing this if we know we are signing iHart, and we can retain Precious who plays the 4/5.

Big fan of what Barnes can bring, so I am with it.

Also think that Mitch/Sabonis will do well in combat with Rudy/Towns.