2024 NBA Draft (euro season, college season, scouting, prospects etc)

[zzaj]

I want nothing to do with Clingan, he screams bust if he's taken that high. Same with Salaun.

My ideal draft would be Castle, Edey, and Jones/Smith/Dunn. I just don't think Castle will get past SA and Edey will get past Memphis or OKC. I think Castle is the next Jimmy Butler, everything about the way he plays, his size, Athleticism, winning attitude etc reminds me of him and having scoot, shae and castle as 1,2,3 with Edey at the 5 would be something to finally get me excited about the blazers post Dame, so of course I expect Cronin to blow it somehow.

I would be OK with either Knecht, Holland, Williams or Buzelis at 14, but I think the real value is around 20-25 with Jones, Smith, and Dunn. All have weaknesses, but are really good at at least one thing that should translate well, with Jones being more of a do it all glue guy, Smith being a stretch 4, and Dunn being the best defender in the draft. We should absolutely trade our seconds plus another to get one of the NYK picks.

The one thing I'll say about both Clingan and Edey...those dudes know how to set screens and are incredibly high BBIQ guys. Now that I'm thinking about it, I can't think of a team that I watched that set worse screens than Portland last year...

So at the very least, that screening ability could ostensibly open things up for Scoot, Sharpe and Simons--assuming all are with the team next year. I expect Brogdon to be traded, however given the return on Caruso, maybe it's better he's kept In any case, a two man game with Brogdon and either of those centers could be a thing too.

[Case2012]

Yeah, they would both set nice screens. I keep forgetting about Nikola Durisjic and Da Silva. I think both those guys are gonna go mid to late first round and are gonna turn out to be good role players.

It doesn't even cross my mind to consider Ayton, Grant, Simon, Williams or Brogdon on this team when I think about the draft or how this team will look next year, but knowing how the Vulcans operate they'll probably all be on the team next year. I would rather let the young guys stink and get the first pick next year than pay 4 guys 100 million to not win while stifling the development of the players we tanked for.

Scoot/Banton
Shae/Knecht
Knecht/Murray
Dunn/Walker
Edey/Reath

That looks like a very exciting team to watch while also tanking for Flagg. Scoot in the PNR with Edey, Shae and Knecht on the wings as scoring threats, Dunn defending the teams best scorers, and Edey protecting the paint with his size in drop coverage.

[Norm2953]

It may come down to how badly the Blazers want Clingan and whether they will trade 7,14 to get him.

Detroit is sitting there at 5 would love to trade down two spots and add that extra lottery pick.

[Pattycakes]

It may come down to how badly the Blazers want Clingan and whether they will trade 7,14 to get him.

Detroit is sitting there at 5 would love to trade down two spots and add that extra lottery pick.

We also have Houston at 3 potentially interested in our vets available as well.

[BlazersBroncos]

I would be pretty unhappy if we moved 7 and 14 to get Clingan. I think he makes sense on some teams (Particularily, I like SAS throwing a curve ball and drafting him, or OKC trading up, or MEM - basically a team that already has 'cornerstones').

But I am not convinced we currently have a true cornerstone on the teams, a guy that can do it on both sides of the floor, and think we are better served using 7 on someone who might, in the future, have the ability to create shots for himself and others while not being a defensive sieve. This is why I am so 'in' on Matas, despite his risky nature. If he hits, its a guy that can score, help others score and defend decently. We need that, not a floor raising defensive C.

I do think OKC would be smart to trade up for him if the cost isnt prohibitory. Think SAS getting him as a twin tower would be very interesting as well (And think they would be smart to invest on bigs to keep the minutes for Vic down).

[zzaj]

It may come down to how badly the Blazers want Clingan and whether they will trade 7,14 to get him.

Detroit is sitting there at 5 would love to trade down two spots and add that extra lottery pick.

Yeah, I think this might be a very real possibility. I hope not, but it seems like it would make sense as a move for a GM who falls in love with a player.

[Pattycakes]

It may come down to how badly the Blazers want Clingan and whether they will trade 7,14 to get him.

Detroit is sitting there at 5 would love to trade down two spots and add that extra lottery pick.

Yeah, I think this might be a very real possibility. I hope not, but it seems like it would make sense as a move for a GM who falls in love with a player.

Getting Clingan out of this draft isn’t a bad look at all. You don’t overpay, but if we need to trade up to say the 5 spot to get him, it’s really not a huge deal or overpay. He has potential for sure. Just as important imo is what we do with the remaining picks we have this year including 30s. Blazers have a huge opportunity this year.

[Case2012]

I would rather have 2 shots at drafting a star in a weak draft than one and If we did want to move up then it has to be for the 14th pick and one of our vets. Like 14 and Grant to Houston or Detroit. But no way in hell am I packing 7 and 14 to move up 2-4 spots in a draft where there's no clear top picks. It makes me think of Olshey trading 2 firsts to get Collins when Bam, OG etc were there with picks we had. Moving up to get Clingan would be the exact same thing.

[Pattycakes]

I would rather have 2 shots at drafting a star in a weak draft than one and If we did want to move up then it has to be for the 14th pick and one of our vets. Like 14 and Grant to Houston or Detroit. But no way in hell am I packing 7 and 14 to move up 2-4 spots in a draft where there's no clear top picks. It makes me think of Olshey trading 2 firsts to get Collins when Bam, OG etc were there with picks we had. Moving up to get Clingan would be the exact same thing.

You wouldn’t trade both picks to move up. You’d use the vet assets and/or Ant

[Norm2953]

I'm doubtful Detroit would take any of Brogdon, Simons, Grant to drop down to 7, when
they can take Clingan for themselves. Jalen Duren's shooting range is 3 feet as is Ausar
& Stewart and could use Grant if not for that contract that has 4 years to go on it.

[BlazersBroncos]

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/1053384/

Recently did a mock draft trying to take into account rumors of what other teams may do - end result was PDX coming out w/ -

7 - Tidjane Salaun F
14 - Ron Holland F
34 - Ajay Mitchell G
40 - Adem Bona C

[Pattycakes]

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/1053384/

Recently did a mock draft trying to take into account rumors of what other teams may do - end result was PDX coming out w/ -

7 - Tidjane Salaun F
14 - Ron Holland F
34 - Ajay Mitchell G
40 - Adem Bona C

Prayer hands that would be epic

[zzaj]

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/1053384/

Recently did a mock draft trying to take into account rumors of what other teams may do - end result was PDX coming out w/ -

7 - Tidjane Salaun F
14 - Ron Holland F
34 - Ajay Mitchell G
40 - Adem Bona C

IMHO, Salaun at 7 is fine and would be the starting PF by the end of the season.
Holland will bust...or put up inefficient numbers on a bad team.
Mitchell is a good 6th man pick at 34.
Bona, is just a guy. Fine for a 4th center.

[Norm2953]

Spacing would be tough in Memphis if they took Edey at 9 to clog the lanes where Ja likes to
operate.

[Dame Lizard]

I'm another person in the camp of wanting to use both draft picks, rather than consolidating them into #4 or #5.

I don't believe there's much difference in quality better #4 and #7 in this draft. I do think there is a drop between #11 and #14, so I would love to trade for our second pick.

[Ptownsblazin12]

That looks like a very exciting team to watch while also tanking for Flagg. Scoot in the PNR with Edey, Shae and Knecht on the wings as scoring threats, Dunn defending the teams best scorers, and Edey protecting the paint with his size in drop coverage.

Scoot and Edey in a PNR would be terrible. You don’t have to respect either of there ability to shoot. Teams would sag off of them and the offense would be stagnant. Edey will be okay in short stretches, he will get PNR’d to death because guards will blow by him. I would like to move into the mid to late first for Edey but at 14 is a waste. You have to take a swing at 14 on a guy that could be a potential starter and I just don’t see Edey as a starter on a playoff team.

[Case2012]

I'm taking Edey at 7, he won't be there at 14.

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[Norm2953]

That looks like a very exciting team to watch while also tanking for Flagg. Scoot in the PNR with Edey, Shae and Knecht on the wings as scoring threats, Dunn defending the teams best scorers, and Edey protecting the paint with his size in drop coverage.

Scoot and Edey in a PNR would be terrible. You don’t have to respect either of there ability to shoot. Teams would sag off of them and the offense would be stagnant. Edey will be okay in short stretches, he will get PNR’d to death because guards will blow by him. I would like to move into the mid to late first for Edey but at 14 is a waste. You have to take a swing at 14 on a guy that could be a potential starter and I just don’t see Edey as a starter on a playoff team.

Edey averaged 25.7 ppg while shooting 62% from the field. Very few question his ability to score for he's 7-4 300 lbs.

What he won't do is shoot from distance but has shown in the workouts, the ability to shoot from from distance.
He just thinks a 300 lb guy should operate in the painted area.

[JRoy]

I'm taking Edey at 7, he won't be there at 14.

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Agreed.

This whole draft is a crapshoot but he has the best body of work and ought to carve out a good career in the league.

Pass on all the tall stick boys and boys lacking motivation. Edey has a chip on his shoulder just like Lillard.

[elias808]

That looks like a very exciting team to watch while also tanking for Flagg. Scoot in the PNR with Edey, Shae and Knecht on the wings as scoring threats, Dunn defending the teams best scorers, and Edey protecting the paint with his size in drop coverage.

Scoot and Edey in a PNR would be terrible. You don’t have to respect either of there ability to shoot. Teams would sag off of them and the offense would be stagnant. Edey will be okay in short stretches, he will get PNR’d to death because guards will blow by him. I would like to move into the mid to late first for Edey but at 14 is a waste. You have to take a swing at 14 on a guy that could be a potential starter and I just don’t see Edey as a starter on a playoff team.

The best shot is an open shot. And if both defenders sag off than both players will be open. If Scoot or Edey can’t hit an open 18 footer, than that’s another question that needs to be answered.

Additionally, this notion that Edey will get smoked on the P&R is unfounded. The argument is always guards will blow by him. But length will nullify some of that. Also, the implication is there is non help side rim protection.

The Edey haters magnify his potential flaws but never give respect to his potential mismatches and upside. Be consistent.