Sacramento off-season

[OxAndFox]

Hard to believe OP is a Kings fan when you're mentioning backup center as a priority and you mention McGee in your 1st post, the guy that rarely played the 2nd half, and don't mention Alex Len - Sabonis's backup as the season ended, and surely the frontrunner if he chooses to resign for the position. What is the logic behind that for someone who watched the Kings last year?

Kings were better with Len on the floor than Sabonis on it last year, so backup center is not really a concern area unless they can't resign Len. Kings' bench was the main bright spot down the stretch of the season. The issue is finding that star power in the starting lineup and/or more defensive-minded, athletic forwards alongside Sabonis.

Len should be back for sure. My hope is that the Kings can find a start PF that can also play backup 5 so it puts Len to 3rd string and there in case of injury.
Not an easy position to find though.

[Astaluego]

Hard to believe OP is a Kings fan when you're mentioning backup center as a priority and you mention McGee in your 1st post, the guy that rarely played the 2nd half, and don't mention Alex Len - Sabonis's backup as the season ended, and surely the frontrunner if he chooses to resign for the position. What is the logic behind that for someone who watched the Kings last year?

Kings were better with Len on the floor than Sabonis on it last year, so backup center is not really a concern area unless they can't resign Len. Kings' bench was the main bright spot down the stretch of the season. The issue is finding that star power in the starting lineup and/or more defensive-minded, athletic forwards alongside Sabonis.

Len should be back for sure. My hope is that the Kings can find a start PF that can also play backup 5 so it puts Len to 3rd string and there in case of injury.
Not an easy position to find though.

What do you think of I.Stewart for Huerter?..

[OxAndFox]

Hard to believe OP is a Kings fan when you're mentioning backup center as a priority and you mention McGee in your 1st post, the guy that rarely played the 2nd half, and don't mention Alex Len - Sabonis's backup as the season ended, and surely the frontrunner if he chooses to resign for the position. What is the logic behind that for someone who watched the Kings last year?

Kings were better with Len on the floor than Sabonis on it last year, so backup center is not really a concern area unless they can't resign Len. Kings' bench was the main bright spot down the stretch of the season. The issue is finding that star power in the starting lineup and/or more defensive-minded, athletic forwards alongside Sabonis.

Len should be back for sure. My hope is that the Kings can find a start PF that can also play backup 5 so it puts Len to 3rd string and there in case of injury.
Not an easy position to find though.

What do you think of I.Stewart for Huerter?..

I like this from both teams' perspectives. Having said that Detroit fans aren't sold on Duren so they would be hesitant. Overall IMO the Pistons need more shooting around Cade and we've seen what Huerter does to open up lanes for Fox etc and he would do wonders for the Pistons offense.

[The Beam King]

Wait wait wait…are you saying you don’t want to trade for Grant Williams because he’s a bad locker room guy but in the very next sentence you suggest trading for Miles Bridges? THE Miles Bridges? You don’t think a guy with the background/history of Bridges has any impact on the locker room?

As for Grant Williams, the only evidence I have seen that’s he’s a “bad teammate” is from a Celtics commentator. NBA champion, Jayson Tatum, immediately responded saying that Grant Williams is a great teammate. Heck even the Dallas GM made comments that Williams was being traded based off his performance in Dallas and not because of locker room issues. You even have Williams admitting that Theis hated him early in their career but they became good friends after a couple teammate dinners.

I’m not concerned with Grant Williams disrupting our locker room especially considering the strong culture Brown has brought to this franchise. If anything, Williams is that enforcer we need on our team to help send a message to the opposing teams if they take a shot at Fox, Sabonis, etc., and I can also see him help hold our team accountable (something Lyles was doing when calling the players only meeting).

Thata exactly what i am saying. There's a big difference between a known nuisance from wherever he's gone versus a one off(even if it was severe).

Set aside the bias for favoring someone with the disturbing history of Bridges (which I’d be interested to see how you defend but I’m sure you’ll avoid)…what evidence do you have that suggests that Grant Williams is a “known nuisance?”

I'm not defending him. I'm merely stating he's legitimately one of the few obtainable difference makers from a talent stand point. If we're going to absolutely upgrade the roster this may be the best path to do so. Factor in Monte has inquired before and that signals to me the off the court incident is not viewed as a total non-starter.

Grant Williams had many derogatorybremarks made about him by teammates, Luke and Kyrie come to mind along with some from Boston.

There is a reason the Max's got better with PJ Washington after moving on from Grant Williams loathsome and toxic personality.

[bdpecore]

I don't see any realistic way to upgrade(on paper) the PF spot with a draft pick or the MLE. Now maybe you can find a cheap player who just happens to be a good fit, but tough to say that for sure. Backup center though should be very doable.

Bobby Portis would be a good fit next to Sabonis. I'm just not sure what the Bucks would want in return.

MIL: Vezenkov, #13 and future 2nd
SAC: Portis and #23

Bucks sneak under the 2nd apron while moving up in the draft if there's a player like Jared McCain or Devin Carter still available.

Kings add a starting stretch 4 while moving back 10 spots in a week draft.

[bpcox05]

Thata exactly what i am saying. There's a big difference between a known nuisance from wherever he's gone versus a one off(even if it was severe).

Set aside the bias for favoring someone with the disturbing history of Bridges (which I’d be interested to see how you defend but I’m sure you’ll avoid)…what evidence do you have that suggests that Grant Williams is a “known nuisance?”

I'm not defending him. I'm merely stating he's legitimately one of the few obtainable difference makers from a talent stand point. If we're going to absolutely upgrade the roster this may be the best path to do so. Factor in Monte has inquired before and that signals to me the off the court incident is not viewed as a total non-starter.

Grant Williams had many derogatorybremarks made about him by teammates, Luke and Kyrie come to mind along with some from Boston.

There is a reason the Max's got better with PJ Washington after moving on from Grant Williams loathsome and toxic personality.

Can you post those derogatory marks you are referencing here?

I posted evidence countering that claim, but I haven’t seen anything from your side yet.

[The Beam King]

Set aside the bias for favoring someone with the disturbing history of Bridges (which I’d be interested to see how you defend but I’m sure you’ll avoid)…what evidence do you have that suggests that Grant Williams is a “known nuisance?”

I'm not defending him. I'm merely stating he's legitimately one of the few obtainable difference makers from a talent stand point. If we're going to absolutely upgrade the roster this may be the best path to do so. Factor in Monte has inquired before and that signals to me the off the court incident is not viewed as a total non-starter.

Grant Williams had many derogatorybremarks made about him by teammates, Luke and Kyrie come to mind along with some from Boston.

There is a reason the Max's got better with PJ Washington after moving on from Grant Williams loathsome and toxic personality.

Can you post those derogatory marks you are referencing here?

I posted evidence countering that claim, but I haven’t seen anything from your side yet.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/274645/Mavericks-Were-Determined-To-Trade-Grant-Williams-Rubbed-A-Lot-Of-People-The-Wrong-Way

[bpcox05]

I'm not defending him. I'm merely stating he's legitimately one of the few obtainable difference makers from a talent stand point. If we're going to absolutely upgrade the roster this may be the best path to do so. Factor in Monte has inquired before and that signals to me the off the court incident is not viewed as a total non-starter.

Grant Williams had many derogatorybremarks made about him by teammates, Luke and Kyrie come to mind along with some from Boston.

There is a reason the Max's got better with PJ Washington after moving on from Grant Williams loathsome and toxic personality.

Can you post those derogatory marks you are referencing here?

I posted evidence countering that claim, but I haven’t seen anything from your side yet.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/274645/Mavericks-Were-Determined-To-Trade-Grant-Williams-Rubbed-A-Lot-Of-People-The-Wrong-Way

Okay so who should we believe? The Dallas Mavs GM, Jayson Tatum, and Daniel Theis? Or should we believe Tim McMahon?