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2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27)

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#121 » by meatball sub » Tue Jun 25, 2024 3:12 am

how cool is it barely even having to wait for the draft because we're **** nba champions
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#122 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Jun 25, 2024 3:15 am

It’s awesome, lol
Finish playoffs, wait one week, get some wings, watch draft
Let’s do it again next year
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#123 » by Shak_Celts » Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:21 am

meatball sub wrote:how cool is it barely even having to wait for the draft because we're **** nba champions

We didn’t get Oso yet, it feels like it’s been 2 weeks! :lol:

Winning Chips makes everything so hard! Let’s lose a couple more games next year before we win it, next day draft?! Make them pick the other team next time, we didn’t do well with everyone picking us! :lol:
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#124 » by djFan71 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 5:16 am

It's officially tomorrow east coast time, so I'll just leave this here. Spoiler: He never misses!
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Some of them aren't the fastest releases. But, I liked the corner ones - seems like he got those up quicker against the fake closeout. He doesn't take the ball down as far or as long on those.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#125 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Jun 25, 2024 5:27 am

Man, I love Mogbo, such a fun player.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#126 » by Cuban Pete » Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:43 am

redslastlaugh wrote:Man, I love Mogbo, such a fun player.


He has an impressive array of skills. He's now one of my faves. He has the wingspan and standing reach to play a big in the NBA.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#127 » by cl2117 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:14 am

Filipowski and DaRon Holmes are still my two favorite options. Filipowski is likely well off the board by the time we're picking and Holmes is rumored to have a promise from Denver at #28, so sadly neither are likely viable options unless Brad is trading up (highly unlikely). Kel'el Ware would also fall into this bucket.

Dadiet, Klintman are big developmental swings I'd be happy taking at #30 if we were to stick there. I'm always up for going for a homerun in this range given how much of a crapshoot it is anyway, so guys with outstanding tools but also requiring lots of development always appeal.

If Brad trades back a handful of spots to pick up a future 2nd or two, as expected, then I like any of Ulrich Chomche, Adem Bona, Baylor Scheirman, Cam Spencer, Harrison Ingram, Oso Ighodaro. All projects, Chomche being another big swing with a high ceiling but low floor, the rest with better looking floors but questionable ceilings.

And at #54 I still like Quinten Post as a Mike Muscala like piece (assuming all of the above guys are already off the board). Him or basically any sharpshooter and hope you hit on a guy who can be the next Hauser. If Bronny is there I'd take him, because why not?

Really feels like Brad can do no wrong here. Worst case scenario is that he falls in love with a guy and trades up for him and misses, but that also feels like the least likely outcome, so things are looking pretty solid.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#128 » by chrisab123 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:22 am

I'm very interested in the idea of the Celtics drafting Bronny at 30 and holding him ransom for the Lakers.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#129 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:47 am

chrisab123 wrote:I'm very interested in the idea of the Celtics drafting Bronny at 30 and holding him ransom for the Lakers.


Trade down and then draft him ahead of the Lakers. Why give him guaranteed money? Then offer him a 2-way and send him to Maine.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#130 » by chrisab123 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:18 pm

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chrisab123 wrote:I'm very interested in the idea of the Celtics drafting Bronny at 30 and holding him ransom for the Lakers.


Trade down and then draft him ahead of the Lakers. Why give him guaranteed money? Then offer him a 2-way and send him to Maine.


He's not going to agree to a 2 way. Send him to LA and get a 1st next year and a 2nd this year. The clown show in LA and LeGM might agree to that.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#131 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:26 pm

Who are we getting? Who fits? Who can contribute in a year or two?
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#132 » by phincsfan » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:29 pm

chrisab123 wrote:I'm very interested in the idea of the Celtics drafting Bronny at 30 and holding him ransom for the Lakers.


It's a shame a more deserving player won't get drafted because of this circus. Players get passed up each year, but how many get passed up because of someone's daddy?

There are plenty of son's in the league of nba players, but IMO this kid does not deserve to get drafted at all. Undrafted signing? fine.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#133 » by Hal14 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:35 pm

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Around 14:45 they get into his shooting. Form on the 3 combine shots looks good, so... problem solved!
21:00 mark they talk about post defense when being undersized.
OK, I think I'll stop Mogbo posts (for now). We haven't even brought him in as of yet.

EDIT: We have brought him in.
https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-draft-workouts-tracker/

Yes, we worked him out.

No, we can't project him as a shooter. Regardless of how he looked shooting at the combine, he literally didn't ever shoot 3's in college. (I know you were probably joking about that part though)

Here's another big board by someone on Draft Twitter who is very high on Mogbo:
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Lastly, even if Brissett leaves, I still am not a fan of drafting a guy (in like the top 45 picks) who is a non-shooter or very suspect shooter..since we're a 3 pt shooting heavy team and already have Kornet, Queta, Walsh, Springer, Tillman (Brissett could still end up returning too).
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#134 » by Hal14 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:40 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Speculation that Celts could package their first round pick for a “veteran big man.” If this speculation is sourced, the two big men that come to my mind that would work under the 2nd apron trade rules are

Dayron Sharpe
Santi Aldama

Jaden Springer + #30 for one of these bigs would be my speculation …

NBC Sports Boston Darren Hartwell points out that while the previous drafts picking late in the round have served well -- Payton Pritchard and Robert Williams, for example -- there's no guarantee Boston even picks at the No. 30 pick if the right big man emerges on the trade market.

“Boston has had success in the back half of the draft before, selecting Robert Williams 27th overall in 2018 and Payton Pritchard at No. 26 in 2020, so there's a case to be made for trying to replicate that success in this draft,” Hartwell prefaced before saying, “On the other hand, the Celtics are in full "win now" mode, so if they can package the No. 30 pick in a deal that lands them a veteran big man, for example, that would be hard to turn down.”


https://hardwoodhoudini.com/posts/boston-celtics-trade-no-30-pick-veteran-big-man-reporter

Trade a 1st round pick who likely won't even be in the postseason rotation? No thanks

If that trade was gonna happen, it would have happened at the trade deadline last year, rather than us acquiring Springer.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#135 » by phincsfan » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:59 pm

Should just offer #30 and a couple of future 1st's to the Wiz for #2 and call it a day. Whether they have the 2nd or the 30th pick they're gonna suck anyway.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#136 » by Dogen » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:02 pm

Anybody up for offering #30 to Spurs for 35 & 48?
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#137 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:04 pm

Dogen wrote:Anybody up for offering #30 to Spurs for 35 & 48?

I'm sure Brad Stevens has been calling the Spurs all week.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#138 » by Hal14 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:20 pm

My updated big board, with 1 day till the draft!

In bold are the guys the Celtics have reportedly worked out.

Spoiler:
Rank Player
1 Rob Dillingham
2 Alexandre Sarr
3 Ron Holland
4 Devin Carter
5 Stephon Castle
6 Cody Williams
7 Dalton Knecht
8 Matas Buzelis
9 Donovan Clingan
10 Zaccharie Risacher
11 Reed Sheppard
12 Kyle Filipowski
13 Kel'el Ware
14 Jaylon Tyson
15 Isaiah Collier
16 Tristan Da Silva
17 Tyler Smith
18 Yves Missi
19 Nikola Djurisic
20 Nikola Topic
21 Baylor Scheierman
22 Terrence Shannon Jr.
23 Zach Edey
24 Pacome Dadiet
25 Jaylen Wells
26 Pelle Larsson
27 DaRon Holmes
28 Enrique Freeman
29 KJ Simpson
30 Ryan Dunn
31 Oso Ighodaro
32 Tyler Kolek
33 Carlton Carrington
34 Ja’Kobe Walter
35 Tidjane Salaun
36 Jared McCain
37 Johnny Furphy
38 Juan Nunez
39 Kevin McCullar Jr
40 Harrison Ingram
41 PJ Hall
42 Reece Beekman
43 Jalen Bridges
44 Tristen Newton
45 Keshad Johnson
46 Adem Bona
47 Kyshawn George
48 Jonathan Mogbo
49 Isaiah Crawford
50 Trentyn Flowers
51 Anton Watson

52 Cam Christie
53 Justin Edwards
54 Melvin Ajinca
55 Ajay Mitchell
56 Trey Alexander
57 Bobi Klintman
58 Jamal Shead
59 Antonio Reeves
60 Dillon Jones
61 Armel Traore

62 Jaedon LeDee
63 Jaylin Williams
64 Jesse Edwards

65 N'Faly Dante
66 Ariel Hukpori
67 Boogie Ellis
68 Dylan Disu
69 Ulrich Chomche
70 Spencer Jones
71 Blake Hinson
72 Cam Spencer
73 AJ Johnson
74 Tristan Enaruna
75 Judah Mintz
76 Riley Minix
77 Isaac Jones
78 Bronny James
79 Quinten Post
80 Mantas Rubstavicius

The 2 latest guys to get added to the Celtics workout list are Jalen Bridges and Mantas Rubstavicius. Both are wings who can shoot but don't offer very much else. The Celtics have worked out lots of wings shooters ahead of this draft (others include Reeves, Scheierman, Ingram, Domask, Cormac Ryan, Sandfort, etc.).

Bridges got mentioned so much on here that Brad just *had* to bring him in for a workout :)

Out of the guys we have worked out, my preference would be either Scheierman, Dadiet or Freeman. As you can see, Scheierman is my highest ranked guy among those 3..but I do think there's some redundancy with him and Hauser.

Dadiet and Freeman are both guys I am pretty high on..I see a good potential fit with Boston for both of them..both can shoot...and the Celtics have worked out both of them.

Dadiet admittedly would probably be more of a long term piece (mins in year 1 would be hard to come by with the depth/talent we have at wing..and the fact that he's still only 19 yrs old). Long term I think Dadiet has some intriguing upside (I like the Cam Johnson comp that Playa Hater through out there..I can see that, down the road..with potentially to *maybe* be even better than Cam down the road since Dadiet is entering the league about 4 yrs younger than Cam did) and even if he doesn't reach that ceiling he's a decent 3&D type of guy off the bench.

But, if Dadiet really hits..and they develop him well..and he works hard. Man, that could be a fun lineup if you have JB (6'6.5", 7'0" wingspan, 225 lbs), Tatum (6'9", 235 lbs, 6'11" wingspan) and Dadiet (6'8.75:, 6'9" wingspan, 218 lbs) all wings who can dribble/pass/shoot defend, all with a vertical leap of 36" or higher. You could put them all on the floor (at the 2, 3 and 4 spots) and it'd be a nightmare for teams to defend.

Freeman I've talked about quite a bit so won't go long winded again on him (for now lol).

If we could somehow get both Dadiet and Freeman, that'd be a nice combo. A wing (who is more of a long term piece, age 18) and a 4/5 type of guy who is more of a short term piece, could contribute right away, age 23).

If they think Hauser is gone after this season, sure grab Scheierman. But it is looking like we'd probably have to trade up to get him..

Admittedly, Dadiet would be a little bit redundant with Hauser (tough for a young wing to get rotation mind off the bench as long as Hauser is here) and Walsh (Dadiet and Walsh would be basically competing with each other for bench wing minutes) so the cleanest fit imo is Freeman.

We've only drafted 1 guy in each of the 3 drafts since Brad took over. I say, we grab Freeman. Good player. Realistic chance he falls to us at 30 - or possibly in the 30's if we trade down (I'm doing a mock draft with people from Draft Twitter right now..we've made 39 picks so far and Freeman is still on the board). And clearly there's interest since the C's worked him out this season *and* last year before the draft as well.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#139 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:23 pm

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Some of them aren't the fastest releases. But, I liked the corner ones - seems like he got those up quicker against the fake closeout. He doesn't take the ball down as far or as long on those.



Im game for him.

How is his speed? Would be be able to log minutes at PF right away? Basically take Brissetts role on the team? Maybe give a bit more if Kornet is gone?
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#140 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:24 pm

chrisab123 wrote:I'm very interested in the idea of the Celtics drafting Bronny at 30 and holding him ransom for the Lakers.

Why not? Brad Stevens wastes 1st round picks anyways.

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