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A history of ignoring pg & sg, and what it’s cost

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Re: A history of ignoring pg & sg, and what it’s cost 

Post#21 » by tiderulz » Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:10 pm

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JoshuaPotter wrote:We have drafted plenty of bust guards over the years....Jaryl Sasser, Elfrid Payton, Reese Gaines immediately come to mind.

We also had a no name player called Tracy McGrady.

Even none prime Vince Carter has played here to somewhat great effect.

Otherwise, I am not sure what you expect. Here is hoping Black or Suggs explode into the "G" you wish we had?


What position was McGrady? Who played point guard and shooting guard in the McGrady area because that’s what I’m talking about.

McGrady played SG. Armstrong was his PG.
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Post#22 » by tiderulz » Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:10 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:
three3d wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:We have drafted plenty of bust guards over the years....Jaryl Sasser, Elfrid Payton, Reese Gaines immediately come to mind.

We also had a no name player called Tracy McGrady.

Even none prime Vince Carter has played here to somewhat great effect.

Otherwise, I am not sure what you expect. Here is hoping Black or Suggs explode into the "G" you wish we had?


What position was McGrady? Who played point guard and shooting guard in the McGrady area because that’s what I’m talking about.


PG Darrel Armstrong
SG Tracy McGrady
C don't remember but it was bad
SF Grant Hill
PF Bo Outlaw / Drew Gooden / Juwan Howard

DeClerq :-o
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Post#23 » by GelbeWand09 » Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:48 pm

tiderulz wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
three3d wrote:
What position was McGrady? Who played point guard and shooting guard in the McGrady area because that’s what I’m talking about.


PG Darrel Armstrong
SG Tracy McGrady
C don't remember but it was bad
SF Grant Hill
PF Bo Outlaw / Drew Gooden / Juwan Howard

DeClerq :-o


& Stone Hand Steven Hunter & 50 year old Ewing :lol:

Btw Kudos to Jerry West trading a high lotto pick in his rookie season, when he still got high value, when he realized the guy doesnt have it in Drew Gooden instead of waiting til he got no worth at all & the mystery is gone like we did with Bamba.
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Post#24 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 24, 2024 10:16 pm

three3d wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
three3d wrote:
What position was McGrady? Who played point guard and shooting guard in the McGrady area because that’s what I’m talking about.


PG Darrel Armstrong
SG Tracy McGrady
C don't remember but it was bad
SF Grant Hill
PF Bo Outlaw / Drew Gooden / Juwan Howard


T-Mac wasn’t the shooting guard though


Wasn't it

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Drew Gooden
Juwan Howard
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Post#25 » by Rainwater » Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:53 pm

RookieStar wrote:
three3d wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
PG Darrel Armstrong
SG Tracy McGrady
C don't remember but it was bad
SF Grant Hill
PF Bo Outlaw / Drew Gooden / Juwan Howard


T-Mac wasn’t the shooting guard though


Wasn't it

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Tmac
Drew Gooden
Juwan Howard


It depends on the season and time period. This lineup you provided was after the Mike Miller trade. It may have been TMac’s last year. The first lineup by Joshua was pretty much the first season TMac played in Orlando.
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Post#26 » by RookieStar » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:27 am

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RookieStar wrote:
three3d wrote:
T-Mac wasn’t the shooting guard though


Wasn't it

TLue
Giricek
Tmac
Drew Gooden
Juwan Howard


It depends on the season and time period. This lineup you provided was after the Mike Miller trade. It may have been TMac’s last year. The first lineup by Joshua was pretty much the first season TMac played in Orlando.


If it was the 1st season, then for sure Drew and Juwan wasnt there.

I dont remember the timeline but wasnt their PF Outlaw and the C was Ewing?Kemo?DeClerc?
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Post#27 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:43 am

Magic did pretty good without a solid PG this season. Would be nice to get a high tier guy, but doubtful. May have to settle for over achievers.
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Post#28 » by Rainwater » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:57 am

RookieStar wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Wasn't it

TLue
Giricek
Tmac
Drew Gooden
Juwan Howard


It depends on the season and time period. This lineup you provided was after the Mike Miller trade. It may have been TMac’s last year. The first lineup by Joshua was pretty much the first season TMac played in Orlando.


If it was the 1st season, then for sure Drew and Juwan wasnt there.

I dont remember the timeline but wasnt their PF Outlaw and the C was Ewing?Kemo?DeClerc?


I think Ewing came after DeClerc and was considered the big signing, lol. Kemp came at some point but was pretty washed up. I don’t think he ever started. That was so long ago lol.

Edit I looked back kemp did start. I didn’t remember that being the case.
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Post#29 » by RookieStar » Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:06 am

Rainwater wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
It depends on the season and time period. This lineup you provided was after the Mike Miller trade. It may have been TMac’s last year. The first lineup by Joshua was pretty much the first season TMac played in Orlando.


If it was the 1st season, then for sure Drew and Juwan wasnt there.

I dont remember the timeline but wasnt their PF Outlaw and the C was Ewing?Kemo?DeClerc?


I think Ewing came after DeClerc and was considered the big signing, lol. Kemp came at some point but was pretty washed up. I don’t think he ever started. That was so long ago lol.

Edit I looked back kemp did start. I didn’t remember that being the case.


I remember when we were serious we had Kemp and Decler ( or was it Doleac ) start for defensive purpose.

Then i remember when we wanted to score we had the 2 pats. Pat Garrity( wherr is he now? ) and Pat Ewing.. backed up by another Pat Burke lol
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Post#30 » by drsd » Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:46 am

eyriq wrote:We've drafted Suggs, AB, and Jett in the lottery over the past three seasons. Do they not count or something?


I would add that bringing Fultz in was also a low risk (potentially) high reward move. It didn't pan out, but that doesn;t mean management wasn't thinking about this all.

Many here think that there will be a Black / Suggs starting backcourt. That's not "ignoring" the guard slots.

p.s. the team also drafted Anthony. :)
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Post#31 » by Rainwater » Tue Jun 25, 2024 2:41 pm

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Rainwater wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
If it was the 1st season, then for sure Drew and Juwan wasnt there.

I dont remember the timeline but wasnt their PF Outlaw and the C was Ewing?Kemo?DeClerc?


I think Ewing came after DeClerc and was considered the big signing, lol. Kemp came at some point but was pretty washed up. I don’t think he ever started. That was so long ago lol.

Edit I looked back kemp did start. I didn’t remember that being the case.


I remember when we were serious we had Kemp and Decler ( or was it Doleac ) start for defensive purpose.

Then i remember when we wanted to score we had the 2 pats. Pat Garrity( wherr is he now? ) and Pat Ewing.. backed up by another Pat Burke lol


Man those were dark days
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Post#32 » by three3d » Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:32 pm

Chauncey Billups…? Anyone remember the circumstances around him when he was here ? I know he was injured but how did we get him and did we trade or cut him? God we had Ben Wallace and Chauncey Billups before they became key pieces to the Pistons championships.
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Post#33 » by tiderulz » Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:58 pm

three3d wrote:Chauncey Billups…? Anyone remember the circumstances around him when he was here ? I know he was injured but how did we get him and did we trade or cut him? God we had Ben Wallace and Chauncey Billups before they became key pieces to the Pistons championships.

Billups was traded to the Orlando Magic along with Ron Mercer and Johnny Taylor in exchange for Chris Gatling, Tariq Abdul-Wahad, a future first-round pick, and cash. ended the season hurt and signed in offseason with Minnesota
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Post#34 » by Skybox » Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:45 pm

tiderulz wrote:
three3d wrote:Chauncey Billups…? Anyone remember the circumstances around him when he was here ? I know he was injured but how did we get him and did we trade or cut him? God we had Ben Wallace and Chauncey Billups before they became key pieces to the Pistons championships.

Billups was traded to the Orlando Magic along with Ron Mercer and Johnny Taylor in exchange for Chris Gatling, Tariq Abdul-Wahad, a future first-round pick, and cash. ended the season hurt and signed in offseason with Minnesota


Billups never had a uni...I remember being at a game and he's in street clothes...and, I'm like "I think that's Chauncey Billups"...that was a WILD year. Gabriel invented the full-on tank.
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Post#35 » by RookieStar » Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:50 pm

Rainwater wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
I think Ewing came after DeClerc and was considered the big signing, lol. Kemp came at some point but was pretty washed up. I don’t think he ever started. That was so long ago lol.

Edit I looked back kemp did start. I didn’t remember that being the case.


I remember when we were serious we had Kemp and Decler ( or was it Doleac ) start for defensive purpose.

Then i remember when we wanted to score we had the 2 pats. Pat Garrity( wherr is he now? ) and Pat Ewing.. backed up by another Pat Burke lol


Man these were dark days


True.. but it cemented my Magic fandom.

I mean... you only have to add Steven "Stone-Hands" Hunter to those bigs lineup and you know who the real fans are.
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Post#36 » by anothermagicfan » Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:58 pm

This thread rehashing some old rosters really makes me like our current team.
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Post#37 » by three3d » Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:00 pm

RookieStar wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
I remember when we were serious we had Kemp and Decler ( or was it Doleac ) start for defensive purpose.

Then i remember when we wanted to score we had the 2 pats. Pat Garrity( wherr is he now? ) and Pat Ewing.. backed up by another Pat Burke lol


Man these were dark days


True.. but it cemented my Magic fandom.

I mean... you only have to add Steven "Stone-Hands" Hunter to those bigs lineup and you know who the real fans are.


Random fandom memory , John Amaechi scored the first NBA bucket of the new millennium January 2nd 2000 also was the first bucket made in the Miami Heat’s brand new arena
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Post#38 » by RookieStar » Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:20 pm

anothermagicfan wrote:This thread rehashing some old rosters really makes me like our current team.


But with this current team we probably will never see another Air Pat dunk on Dalembert..
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Post#39 » by three3d » Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:47 pm

RookieStar wrote:
anothermagicfan wrote:This thread rehashing some old rosters really makes me like our current team.


But with this current team we probably will never see another Air Pat dunk on Dalembert..


Don’t know how I totally forgot we had White Chocolate also at one time. Man young Jason Williams was so nasty with the ball in Sacramento. I hear he still runs in Orlando, anyone know if that’s still true today?
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Post#40 » by anothermagicfan » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:05 pm

Yeah we've had lots of great guards. Remember Carlos arroyo and Arron aflalo

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