Free Agency

[buzzkilloton]

It all depends on the contract for me

Once you start going over $20 mil per or over 2 years in length it starts to get sketchy

Yeah if hes going to come here for a short term 20mill per year contract then whatever I'm not going to complain I would just /shrug. My thinking is hes looking to either get his last chance at cashing in to the max or he is looking to go somewhere else and take a discount to win in the playoffs. It sounds like we may see in due time what type of contract is coming.

Hopefully Langdon would be cautious of over paying him (mostly in years committed)

Could be a bad early sign if he lets Tobias run us in FA

I have PTSD over most our FA signings in the past. So whenever I see fans talk about us getting a fair market or below deal from one of the bigger names in FA I just dont buy it. Langdon mentioned in his press conference he was looking to "absorb bad contracts for assets" so I'm hoping we go that route.

Though I thought Troy was terrible overall he did land one of our best FA deals in Grant. We got that because of his connection with him in OKC and the promise for a bigger role though. That actually worked out very well for Grant as he ended up getting a 5 for 160 mill after that. Maybe Langdon has a rabbit in his hat on some kind of trade or signing like that to start off the tenure.

[A_dub06]

We need a power forward = Miles Bridges. younger than most and probably won’t cost too much. Plus his shot is already decent and with Vinson here maybe he can grow that even further

No shot Langdon does this big press conference talking about high character guys and then makes Miles Bridges his first big move, IMO.

Gotta look at who is available outside of Bridges that is a PF...

Tobias Harris
Obi Toppin
.....
Patrick Williams?
Kyle Anderson??

It gets rough pretty rough pretty quick. Obi has never played more than 21.1mpg and can't create his own shot at all. Patrick Williams will almost certainly get matched unless it's a really bad contract.

Tobias is basically the only real free agent option. Otherwise, it'll probably have to be a trade.

I just think when you factor in price, age and ability Miles comes out on top quite easily with compared to the field. The off court stuff has been bad I know, but he’s said to be an excellent team mate on the court so maybe coming home he could rehab his image.

Tobias is old, and I think his production is going to steeply decline, and the other guys on your list coke with bigger question marks and probably not much less $ than bridges will cost

[A_dub06]

We need a power forward = Miles Bridges. younger than most and probably won’t cost too much. Plus his shot is already decent and with Vinson here maybe he can grow that even further

Yeah I'm 100% with you on Bridges that would be a great pick up. He also has a home town connection to us. I've heard he wants to stay in Cha though so I'm kinda assuming thats where he stays.

Signing him would depend on if he was even on the market and if Langdon forsees him as a guy who could change. I know what others are saying about him saying "going after high character players" thing. The thing is nearly every GM and coach in every sport always says this kind of stuff. Nobody says "were looking to add talent regardless of what they do off the court".

Agreed. Bridges is a good with teammates is the off court problems that are the issue. Maybe if he comes home he can be in a better situation mentally and I think he’s aware his next contract is going to come with non-guaranteed portions to protect the team should it arise again.

[A_dub06]

We need a power forward = Miles Bridges. younger than most and probably won’t cost too much. Plus his shot is already decent and with Vinson here maybe he can grow that even further

Miles is resigning in CLT barring a major overpay - think north of $30 mil/yr. They didn't go through all the bad press for the last 2 years just to let the guy walk.

I’d say it’s the most likely option. Although Charlotte thought they would be taking another step forward this year with bridges back, a new shining rookie, Ball and Williams. Ball and Williams both obviously got injured but you never know.

[7r5ur]

We need a power forward = Miles Bridges. younger than most and probably won’t cost too much. Plus his shot is already decent and with Vinson here maybe he can grow that even further

No shot Langdon does this big press conference talking about high character guys and then makes Miles Bridges his first big move, IMO.

Gotta look at who is available outside of Bridges that is a PF...

Tobias Harris
Obi Toppin
.....
Patrick Williams?
Kyle Anderson??

It gets rough pretty rough pretty quick. Obi has never played more than 21.1mpg and can't create his own shot at all. Patrick Williams will almost certainly get matched unless it's a really bad contract.

Tobias is basically the only real free agent option. Otherwise, it'll probably have to be a trade.

I just think when you factor in price, age and ability Miles comes out on top quite easily with compared to the field. The off court stuff has been bad I know, but he’s said to be an excellent team mate on the court so maybe coming home he could rehab his image.

Tobias is old, and I think his production is going to steeply decline, and the other guys on your list coke with bigger question marks and probably not much less $ than bridges will cost

I would never advocate to sign Tobias for more than like 2-3 years tops. That would make him 33 or 34 at the end of 2 or 3 years respectively. He doesn't rely on athleticism so he should be fine. Again, as long as the money isn't crazy. I wouldn't give a penny over $25M/year and I would want a team option in the 3rd year if it were that price.

I think a deal slightly over what Bojan got (at an older age) would be fair. Something like 60-70M/3yr with a team option or partial guarantee in the final year.

[A_dub06]

No shot Langdon does this big press conference talking about high character guys and then makes Miles Bridges his first big move, IMO.

Gotta look at who is available outside of Bridges that is a PF...

Tobias Harris
Obi Toppin
.....
Patrick Williams?
Kyle Anderson??

It gets rough pretty rough pretty quick. Obi has never played more than 21.1mpg and can't create his own shot at all. Patrick Williams will almost certainly get matched unless it's a really bad contract.

Tobias is basically the only real free agent option. Otherwise, it'll probably have to be a trade.

I just think when you factor in price, age and ability Miles comes out on top quite easily with compared to the field. The off court stuff has been bad I know, but he’s said to be an excellent team mate on the court so maybe coming home he could rehab his image.

Tobias is old, and I think his production is going to steeply decline, and the other guys on your list coke with bigger question marks and probably not much less $ than bridges will cost

I would never advocate to sign Tobias for more than like 2-3 years tops. That would make him 33 or 34 at the end of 2 or 3 years respectively. He doesn't rely on athleticism so he should be fine. Again, as long as the money isn't crazy. I wouldn't give a penny over $25M/year and I would want a team option in the 3rd year if it were that price.

I think a deal slightly over what Bojan got (at an older age) would be fair. Something like 60-70M/3yr with a team option or partial guarantee in the final year.

See for me if we aren’t going to get Bridges and it’s not looking good for our other targets I would offer Harris 2 years $20m per and 2nd year s team option. Any more money or years I’d tell him to go somewhere else. I really don’t understand the appeal but realise we do need vets that can still play

[7r5ur]

I just think when you factor in price, age and ability Miles comes out on top quite easily with compared to the field. The off court stuff has been bad I know, but he’s said to be an excellent team mate on the court so maybe coming home he could rehab his image.

Tobias is old, and I think his production is going to steeply decline, and the other guys on your list coke with bigger question marks and probably not much less $ than bridges will cost

I would never advocate to sign Tobias for more than like 2-3 years tops. That would make him 33 or 34 at the end of 2 or 3 years respectively. He doesn't rely on athleticism so he should be fine. Again, as long as the money isn't crazy. I wouldn't give a penny over $25M/year and I would want a team option in the 3rd year if it were that price.

I think a deal slightly over what Bojan got (at an older age) would be fair. Something like 60-70M/3yr with a team option or partial guarantee in the final year.

See for me if we aren’t going to get Bridges and it’s not looking good for our other targets I would offer Harris 2 years $20m per and 2nd year s team option. Any more money or years I’d tell him to go somewhere else. I really don’t understand the appeal but realise we do need vets that can still play

Appeal is a natural power forward that can create his own offense and score at 3 levels on solid efficiency. Isn't a great defender but also isn't Bojan-level. Jack of all trades master of none. Is available. Might be willing to play here. He also stays pretty healthy. Averaged 74 games played per year over the last 10 years. At least 70 in each of the last 3 years.

If we can get him for 40/2 years with a team option, great! I just listed the highest I'd go. I do think he's an easily flippable asset on a 2-3 year deal in that 20-25M/year range.

And yeah, I just think Bridges is off the table. Really terrible timing to get a new GM if you were a Miles Bridges advocate.

[theBigLip]

Wiseman has a $30M cap hold. I would expect to see some news on him soon.

[bstein14]

Sat June 29th: Club Option deadline for Evan Fournier at $19m, Metu at Min deadline, Umude at Min deadline
Sat June 29th: Qualifying offer needs to be given to any RFAs we want to keep restricted (Flynn, Font, Wiseman, or Rhoden)
Sun June 30th: Troy Brown Jr's $4m become's fully guaranteed if not waived
Sunday, June 30 at 3 p.m. = Start of Free Agency

My assumption is that we are likely to clear house on all FAs besides Font.

[theBigLip]

Sat June 29th: Club Option deadline for Evan Fournier at $19m, Metu at Min deadline, Umude at Min deadline
Sat June 29th: Qualifying offer needs to be given to any RFAs we want to keep restricted (Flynn, Font, Wiseman, or Rhoden)
Sun June 30th: Troy Brown Jr's $4m become's fully guaranteed if not waived
Sunday, June 30 at 3 p.m. = Start of Free Agency

My assumption is that we are likely to clear house on all FAs besides Font.

Definitely keeping Fontecchio. Would Wiseman take a deal for a few mil per and be our 3rd big? We certainly aren’t giving him the more expensive qualifying offer. I’d also expect us to pick up another big in the next week or two.

[zeebneeb]

Wiseman has a $30M cap hold. I would expect to see some news on him soon.

By June 30th if memory serves.

[bstein14]

Wiseman has a $30M cap hold. I would expect to see some news on him soon.

By June 30th if memory serves.

Free Agency starts June 30th and all qualifying offers need to be made by June 29th or those players become UFA instead of restricted free agents.

[Billl]

There is no universe were wiseman gets a qualifying offer. We'll renounce him immediately to remove the cap hold. It's possible he's back on a very low contract after we finish all the important business, but I suspect we'll try to bring in some sort of vet big. If he finds someone willing to offer him more than the min in the meantime, more power to him.

[buzzkilloton]

There is no universe were wiseman gets a qualifying offer. We'll renounce him immediately to remove the cap hold. It's possible he's back on a very low contract after we finish all the important business, but I suspect we'll try to bring in some sort of vet big. If he finds someone willing to offer him more than the min in the meantime, more power to him.

I assume Troy is going to push for him to join the Wiz.

[Kalamazoo317]

We should sign KCP, Tobias, Marus Morris, Drummond, and Reggie Jackson, all to 1-1 contracts with team options. Put the Stan Van band back together!

[LaSheed]

If I see another post of mentioning signing Tobias Harris to a 3 year deal I'll jump into oncoming traffic

[zeebneeb]

If I see another post of mentioning signing Tobias Harris to a 3 year deal I'll jump into oncoming traffic

Then you'll be in traction, and the nurse will put on ESPN, lose the remote, and you'll be forced to watch the news cycle for weeks about how the Pistons signed Harris to 3/100.

There are fates worse then death.

[uncleoswald]

If I see another post of mentioning signing Tobias Harris to a 3 year deal I'll jump into oncoming traffic

I would take virtually any result over signing Harris.

[LaSheed]

If I see another post of mentioning signing Tobias Harris to a 3 year deal I'll jump into oncoming traffic

Then you'll be in traction, and the nurse will put on ESPN, lose the remote, and you'll be forced to watch the news cycle for weeks about how the Pistons signed Harris to 3/100.

There are fates worse then death.

Haha you're right my luck I'd survive

[MortSahlfan]

If we're going to get an ex-Pistons, I'd rather have KCP than Tobias