2024 Draft Thread - Part III

[NatP4]

Sarr has specifically mentioned Pacome Dadiet in 3 or 4 interviews. Picked him over Risacher when asked to “pick one teammate from this class to play with”.

Go get them both.

[machu46]

I can completely buy doclinkin's thesus that Edey might in fact be an exceptionally good NBA player.

My main concern about Edey is that he will have a unique play style that won't fit in well with a lot of teams, at least not at first. If you draft him you need to put the right system and personnel around him. You won't really want to pair him with a slashing PG like a Ja Morant because he will muck up the driving lanes. If you are going to run him in pick and roll, you want to pair him with a guy who can pull up from midrange like Brunson or Jamaal Murray. And you are going to want guards who fight through screens on defense. And you definitely want all 4 players around him to shoot the 3-ball well so you can post him up and give him clear passing lanes.

I don't think he'd be a good fit with Deni, for example. Jordan Poole might work very well with him (on offense, at least).

I think one could argue Washington is still enough of a blank canvas that if you do feel like Edey could be a stud but needs a team specifically built to maximize him, Washington is a very good place for that.

I’m not THAT high on him but I do like him better than the consensus as I have him at #11.


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[payitforward]

It’s a testament to what teams think about his non-shooting contributions.

28% on open NCAA 3pt line catch and shoot attempts is absolutely terrible.

No doubt. It’s probably also a testament to teams’ belief that Castle can improve his shooting.

Right. The fact that he shot 72% in the motion shooting drills at the Combine with all eyes on him (as well as his fine % from the FT) goes towards his mental strength and probability of improvement in any areas of weakness in his game. So far in his short career when he was challenged to do a thing he met the challenge. He is being drafted for defense, but also for his determination and focus along with the raw potential of a guy who is able to match up with PGs but has the strength to play frontcourt positions. It's an upside play. Nobody in this draft is perfect. You are drafting for hope. Projection. Same with Sarr or Holland or Topic. You are drafting for your best guess on their likelihood to improve. Those of us who are doubters on Sarr think he may not meet that potential. Those of us who like Castle are betting on the dawg in him, to overcome whatever flaws he shows today.

Otherwise you take Reed Sheppard. Knowing he will never grow taller, but does already show a complete game. Fundamentally unflawed. Other than being a little overmatched defending his best NBA position.

Or you know. You trade back and draft both Castle and the big guy. The 2x Naismith winner. An even more finished product.

1. Castle posted a .551 TS% in his Freshman year. On 22% usage. No, that is not bad. So, no, he is not inept at putting the ball in the bucket.
2. Overall, Castle's numbers as a Freshman were quite good. Except for shooting they were absolutely terrific.

Given that we are not going to draft Stephon Castle at #1, why is he getting this level of attention in this thread?

I'd a lot rather be talking about KJ Simpson. In fact, why are we giving so little attention our #26 pick?

[Frichuela]

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[The Consiglieri]

This is wild:

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Wow, at-least someone is breaking-away from the herd, I expect the actual draft results to workout to be some version of this.

He's always willing to go out on a limb (remember Killian Hayes 1.01 a few years ago and not budging on it as Hayes dropped?). He's one who it seems like produces his own rankings based on mocks, they may be influenced by reporting, not sure how much, but they definitely aren't straight, "this is what the reporting says will happen," which is typically a huge percentage of the mocks out there.

Worthy of note that Sarr is as of an hour ago, like -700 to go #2 which is like 3.5x the odds Jayden Daniels was to go to DC at this point 2 months ago.

[dckingsfan]

...In fact, why are we giving so little attention our #26 pick?

Probability.

It is much easier to discuss the top 5 in the draft and who we take at #2 then 20 odd players (okay, there might be some exaggeration but you get the idea) that could conceivably go #26.

We are inherently lazy.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Ok, draft is in 24 hours!!

Lets get everyone's wish list...

Give us who you want at each spot: 2, 26, 51, and 1 plan B for each.


At 2: I'll go with Sarr. I'll take the bait, just too enticing to think about his switchability 3 through 5 in combination with Bilal's switchability 1 though 3, for a team that has been so bad on defense forever.

Plan B: Buzelis

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At 26: Dadiet - high upside who can score, Sarr has said he'd like to play with him, keep the French connection going.

Plan B: Furphy


51: Cam Christie , I was looking at him late 1st, but I see DRAFT ROOM has him going to us at 51, so Ill go with him here.

Plan B: Ajay Mitchell


Note: Also interested in Ariel Hukporti if he goes undrafted.


Alright, lets hear what you got!

[tontoz]

If we stay at 2 i am in the anyone but Risacher camp.

Where it gets interesting is if we can get a late lottery pick, either by trading Kuzma or trading down. At that point we could pick Ware/Topic/McCain.

[NatP4]

2
Sarr/Sheppard/Topic

10-14ish (Kuzma deal)
Topic/Dadiet

26
Simpson/Holmes/Mogbo

51
Mogbo/Djurisic/Comche/Flowers

Dream draft is Sarr, Topic, and Dadiet.

[machu46]

Ok, draft is in 24 hours!!

Lets get everyone's wish list...

Give us who you want at each spot: 2, 26, 51, and 1 plan B for each.


At 2: I'll go with Sarr. I'll take the bait, just too enticing to think about his switchability 3 through 5 in combination with Bilal's switchability 1 though 3, for a team that has been so bad on defense forever.

Plan B: Buzelis

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At 26: Dadiet - high upside who can score, Sarr has said he'd like to play with him, keep the French connection going.

Plan B: Furphy


51: Cam Christie , I was looking at him late 1st, but I see DRAFT ROOM has him going to us at 51, so Ill go with him here.

Plan B: Ajay Mitchell


Note: Also interested in Ariel Hukporti if he goes undrafted.


Alright, lets hear what you got!

I’ll play and try to keep options realistic (available within 3 picks of the Wizards choice on Vecenie’s latest mock):

2: Reed Sheppard / Ron Holland

26: Isaiah Collier / Baylor Scheierman

51: Dillon Jones / KJ Simpson


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[joshuacf]

2
Sarr

26
Collier/Topic/Shannon (would throw Holmes in here but he has a promise from the Nuggets and canceled all his other workouts)

51
Keshad Johnson

[gesa2]

2
Sarr Sheppard or trade down
13 if we get it - Topic, Carter
26 Dadiet, Holmes, Schierman,
51 Djurisic, Simpson Flowers

[payitforward]

2. Sarr (Sheppard if Sarr is gone)
26. Dadiet or KJ Simpson -- happy with either one
51. Enrique Freeman (Chomche? Dante? if Freeman's gone)
Undrafted: -- Chomche or Dante or Hukporti or Ajay Mitchell (but definitely sign the best undrafted!)

[J-Ves]

2. Sarr, Sheppard

26. Collier, Missi

51. Bona, Flowers

(13. Holland, Edey)

[Dat2U]

2. Sarr, trade down, Dillingham or Hollland
(13. Dillingham, Holland, Collier or Edey)
26. Holmes, Djurisic, Dadiet or Tyson
51. Mitchell, Flowers, Ajinca or Crawford

[Frichuela]

We shall see…

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[tontoz]

One guy I wanted to like, but just couldn't, is jakobe Walter. Good athleticism at the 2 and his shot looks good, but he would do some stupid stuff out there. If he had the bball IQ of Otto Porter he would be a top 5 pick.

He is fast though and has a 6'10 wingspan. He is a better shooter than his 34% from 3 would indicate. Shot selection was a problem.

He could be good down the line if he smartens up. I could see Dawkins taking a chance on him if we get a late lottery pick, or at 26 if he falls that far. But the Jordan Crawford vibe is a turn off for me.

Edit Kelly Oubre might be a better comp. Better shooter but you don't want him dribbling much.

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[badinage]

^ That would seem to me to set the bar for a Kuzma trade. Am I wrong?

I’m not saying Kuz is worth 5 FRPs (Bridges isn’t worth 5 FRPs), but if that’s the scale he’s worth at least 3 FRPs and a player.

[J-Ves]

seems like a steep price for Bridges. Kind of funny our pick from the Wall trade didn't make it into the smorgasbord