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2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27)

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#241 » by playa-hater » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:01 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10125108-2024-nba-draft-day-trades-that-make-sense-for-every-team

Fake Bleacher Report trade:

Orlando Magic Acquire: Payton Pritchard and No. 30 pick in 2024 draft
Boston Celtics Acquire: No. 18 pick in 2024 draft

Not a rumor, but an interesting idea. I would only consider a trade like this if I had one particular player in mind.


I love PP, but I would do it.. too many more impactful players (most likely) still available at 18..
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#242 » by Hal14 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:01 pm

Side note - 2 more names popped up on the list of guys the Celtics have worked out ahead of the draft:

AJ Johnson (combo guard who is like 6'5.5", young, with some upside...played in Australia league last season..his head coach? Justin Tatum, father of Jayson Tatum)

Babacar Sane (SF/PF..strong and athletic but very little ball skills..Brissett replacement?)
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#243 » by Parliament10 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:05 pm

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#244 » by playa-hater » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:09 pm

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All of that and our next 2 Bigs are FAs.. Thats why I say trade up for a Legit Bigman vs hoping some 2nd rd project develops in 2 years..
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#245 » by return2glory » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:21 pm

Nikola Djurisic is interesting.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#246 » by playa-hater » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:29 pm

Trade PP straight up to Utah for their 29th pick. with pick 29 and 30 Boston gets Filipowski and Baylor Scheierman . Great draft.. pick 54 get the best PG available to battle with JD.. Meanwhile White and Jrue can split the PG duties down the middle if necessary.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#247 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:35 pm

That’s super aggressive, probably too aggressive because you know Brad is gonna rely on PP to eat up early season minutes to rest Jrue.

But I like it! Let’s GO!!!

I love the day before the draft, lol !!
playa-hater wrote:Trade PP straight up to Utah for their 29th pick. with pick 29 and 30 Boston gets Filipowski and Baylor Scheierman . Great draft.. pick 54 get the best PG available to battle with JD.. Meanwhile White and Jrue can split the PG duties down the middle if necessary.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#248 » by Fierce1 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:40 pm

playa-hater wrote:Trade PP straight up to Utah for their 29th pick. with pick 29 and 30 Boston gets Filipowski and Baylor Scheierman . Great draft.. pick 54 get the best PG available to battle with JD.. Meanwhile White and Jrue can split the PG duties down the middle if necessary.

Jrue is already 34 years old.

Having him play more minutes in the regular season is a bad idea.

We want Jrue fresh for the playoffs.

PP is great for the regular season.

So the Cs trading PP for a 1st rnd pick is not happening.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#249 » by playa-hater » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:40 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:That’s super aggressive, probably too aggressive because you know Brad is gonna rely on PP to eat up early season minutes to rest Jrue.

But I like it! Let’s GO!!!

I love the day before the draft, lol !!
playa-hater wrote:Trade PP straight up to Utah for their 29th pick. with pick 29 and 30 Boston gets Filipowski and Baylor Scheierman . Great draft.. pick 54 get the best PG available to battle with JD.. Meanwhile White and Jrue can split the PG duties down the middle if necessary.


I personally think JD can hold down the forte if needed. But getting a starting caliper Center whose style Fits Boston with a player whose ceiling is a better Sam Hauser type is too good to pass up. Contingent on those players being available OfCourse

EDIT.. and it saves us Money :nod:
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#250 » by Shak_Celts » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:43 pm

Is it time for Oso’s draft day presser?
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Post#251 » by playa-hater » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:46 pm

return2glory wrote:Nikola Djurisic is interesting.


doesn't he have an injury concern?
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#252 » by Fierce1 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:49 pm

I get that most of you guys have a player or two you would love the Cs would draft.

But Brad himself already said he doesn't think there will be a rookie that can become part of the rotation this coming season.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#253 » by hugepatsfan » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:52 pm

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playa-hater wrote:Trade PP straight up to Utah for their 29th pick. with pick 29 and 30 Boston gets Filipowski and Baylor Scheierman . Great draft.. pick 54 get the best PG available to battle with JD.. Meanwhile White and Jrue can split the PG duties down the middle if necessary.

Jrue is already 34 years old.

Having him play more minutes in the regular season is a bad idea.

We want Jrue fresh for the playoffs.

PP is great for the regular season.

So the Cs trading PP for a 1st rnd pick is not happening.


Not that I'm advocating for a PP trade, but you could always backfill him with a vet min deal. If we open up his 22 minute role in the backcourt, my guess is that we'd probably be amongst the most attractive destinations out there for vet min guards. A real rotation role on a championship team.

The idea being tossed around here is Pritchard/#30 for #18. The #18 pick last year Jamie Jacquez Jr. for MIA. #19 was Brandin Podziemski for GSW. And then is it unrealistic to think someone like Alec Burks would sign here for the minimum to chase a ring and play Pritchard's minutes?

Drafting someone at #18 doesn't guarantee it's a hit on the selection and vet min deals can always flounder. I'm not advocating for the move. But if Stevens and the FO have really strong conviction on a player in the mid 1st round and moving Pritchard is needed to get him, I think it's an idea worth considering. And I believe Pritchard's regular season role can be adequately filled with a minimum signing.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#254 » by playa-hater » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:55 pm

There are quite of few "Bunnies" I would Love in RD 2. And by RD 2 I mean players who have NOT been predicted for RD1.. So no slider from rd 1 counts. But My Bunny is Jalen Bridges. One of the Best 3-D players in the draft IMO. 3-D fits with the Jays like Peanut Butter fits Jelly.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#255 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:02 am

hugepatsfan wrote:
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playa-hater wrote:Trade PP straight up to Utah for their 29th pick. with pick 29 and 30 Boston gets Filipowski and Baylor Scheierman . Great draft.. pick 54 get the best PG available to battle with JD.. Meanwhile White and Jrue can split the PG duties down the middle if necessary.

Jrue is already 34 years old.

Having him play more minutes in the regular season is a bad idea.

We want Jrue fresh for the playoffs.

PP is great for the regular season.

So the Cs trading PP for a 1st rnd pick is not happening.


Not that I'm advocating for a PP trade, but you could always backfill him with a vet min deal. If we open up his 22 minute role in the backcourt, my guess is that we'd probably be amongst the most attractive destinations out there for vet min guards. A real rotation role on a championship team.

The idea being tossed around here is Pritchard/#30 for #18. The #18 pick last year Jamie Jacquez Jr. for MIA. #19 was Brandin Podziemski for GSW. And then is it unrealistic to think someone like Alec Burks would sign here for the minimum to chase a ring and play Pritchard's minutes?

Drafting someone at #18 doesn't guarantee it's a hit on the selection and vet min deals can always flounder. I'm not advocating for the move. But if Stevens and the FO have really strong conviction on a player in the mid 1st round and moving Pritchard is needed to get him, I think it's an idea worth considering. And I believe Pritchard's regular season role can be adequately filled with a minimum signing.

We also have to factor in the great chemistry that PP has with the team.

It's too risky.

What if the minimum signing would be toxic in the locker room?
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#256 » by hugepatsfan » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:05 am

Fierce1 wrote:
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Fierce1 wrote:Jrue is already 34 years old.

Having him play more minutes in the regular season is a bad idea.

We want Jrue fresh for the playoffs.

PP is great for the regular season.

So the Cs trading PP for a 1st rnd pick is not happening.


Not that I'm advocating for a PP trade, but you could always backfill him with a vet min deal. If we open up his 22 minute role in the backcourt, my guess is that we'd probably be amongst the most attractive destinations out there for vet min guards. A real rotation role on a championship team.

The idea being tossed around here is Pritchard/#30 for #18. The #18 pick last year Jamie Jacquez Jr. for MIA. #19 was Brandin Podziemski for GSW. And then is it unrealistic to think someone like Alec Burks would sign here for the minimum to chase a ring and play Pritchard's minutes?

Drafting someone at #18 doesn't guarantee it's a hit on the selection and vet min deals can always flounder. I'm not advocating for the move. But if Stevens and the FO have really strong conviction on a player in the mid 1st round and moving Pritchard is needed to get him, I think it's an idea worth considering. And I believe Pritchard's regular season role can be adequately filled with a minimum signing.

We also have to factor in the great chemistry that PP has with the team.

It's too risky.

What if the minimum signing would be toxic in the locker room?


I feel you on it not being worth it to break up the chemistry. I think it's most likely hyperbolic that a vet min signing would be "toxic in the locker room" though, ya know?

My guess is that Pritchard just honestly doesn't hold much trade value and he doesn't get us into range to take anyone that we have such strong conviction in that we feel we have to make a move.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#257 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:07 am

Here's what Brad said earlier.

Despite his confidence in the class's depth, Stevens doesn't believe Boston will be bringing anyone in to play minutes next season. Instead, the newest Celtic(s) will work to develop their game in hopes of earning minutes somewhere down the line.

"It will be hard for any draft pick to crack our rotation when healthy," he explained. "And so, we'll think about how we can best continue to invest in young players and their development and growth, with the reality that, if we're able to continue to move forward with this group, that these guys are going to be on the court. So, this will be a good opportunity again to bring in somebody who we think will help us down the road.”
https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/brad_stevens_reveals_celtics_hopes_for_2024_nba_draft/s1_16952_40531342
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#258 » by celticgreenie » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:15 am

Fierce1 wrote:Here's what Brad said earlier.

Despite his confidence in the class's depth, Stevens doesn't believe Boston will be bringing anyone in to play minutes next season. Instead, the newest Celtic(s) will work to develop their game in hopes of earning minutes somewhere down the line.

"It will be hard for any draft pick to crack our rotation when healthy," he explained. "And so, we'll think about how we can best continue to invest in young players and their development and growth, with the reality that, if we're able to continue to move forward with this group, that these guys are going to be on the court. So, this will be a good opportunity again to bring in somebody who we think will help us down the road.”
https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/brad_stevens_reveals_celtics_hopes_for_2024_nba_draft/s1_16952_40531342


Key part of the quote is "when healthy." Plenty of rest days will be scheduled for Al, Kristaps, and maybe Jrue.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#259 » by djFan71 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:15 am

My most recent "final" list.

1st round / early 2nd:
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Da Silva
Daron Holmes
Jaylon Tyson
* Jonathon Mogbo
* Pacome Dadiet
* AJ Johnson
* Ajay Mitchell

2nd round
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Ulrich Chomche
* Jalen Bridges
Pelle Larson
* Enrique Freeman
Trey Alexander
Keshad Johnson
Jaylen Wells
* Trentyn Flowers
Oso Ighodora
Adam Bona
Isaiah Crawford
Tristan Newton
Reece Beekman

* means they've worked out for us
2nd round pick depends on what position the first round is. BPA first round, then either LONG term BPA or best fit with the first round. Ideally we come out with a big/big wing and a PG/combo.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#260 » by hugepatsfan » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:17 am

Fierce1 wrote:Here's what Brad said earlier.

Despite his confidence in the class's depth, Stevens doesn't believe Boston will be bringing anyone in to play minutes next season. Instead, the newest Celtic(s) will work to develop their game in hopes of earning minutes somewhere down the line.

"It will be hard for any draft pick to crack our rotation when healthy," he explained. "And so, we'll think about how we can best continue to invest in young players and their development and growth, with the reality that, if we're able to continue to move forward with this group, that these guys are going to be on the court. So, this will be a good opportunity again to bring in somebody who we think will help us down the road.”
https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/brad_stevens_reveals_celtics_hopes_for_2024_nba_draft/s1_16952_40531342


There's a lot of things he's said that ended up being just media speak. It's not like it would be uncharacteristic for him to make this statement today and then tomorrow:

"We think it's hard to crack the rotation here but there were a few guys we think can do it... _____ was one of them and as much as we like Payton and think he was great here and will be great in _____ we just felt it was a good opportunity to sort of re-align our pieces and distribute our depth better. So tough as it was we just felt it was a good opportunity to move Payton and get someone we think is going to be similarly really, really good at a different spot."

Again, not specifically advocating for a Pritchard trade. Just saying that there's certainly a number of players in this draft that I'm sure they'd rather have than Pritchard and if the chips line up right to where moving him could get you one, they should explore it and I'm sure they would.

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