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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#981 » by stormi » Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:38 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Someone who I think is just as good as KCP and will cost half the price is Royce O'Neale. I'm all in on him if we can snag him in the $10-12 mil range.


I think Pope is definitely better, but he'd be a decent pivot if we didn't have the space for Pope - or got outbid.

Shouldn't cost very much.

Marshall + Pope (/O'Neale/Trent) would help a lot with guard/wing depth.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#982 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:47 pm

DDR game ages well. He can carry a offense. Can play with scorers ,athletic,multiple positional. DDR is a underated pick up. Embiid and Maxey our actually highly effective stationary shooters anyway when offense is effective in playoffs. Cutters like Oubre and DDR can eat way more than Heild ,klay Thompson types.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#983 » by stormi » Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:53 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:DDR game ages well. He can carry a offense. Can play with scorers ,athletic,multiple positional. DDR is a underated pick up. Embiid and Maxey our actually highly effective stationary shooters anyway when offense is effective in playoffs. Cutters like Oubre and DDR can eat way more than Heild ,klay Thompson types.


The only reason I am somewhat receptive to the idea of DDR, is because I'm cynical regarding what Morey can get done this summer anyways. I'm not sure I foresee us plucking a superstar or making any savvy trades.

DDR will probably be very good here (in the regular season at least), possibly even an allstar averaging ~23/5/5. He would be immediately be our best half court playmaker and can make plays in the clutch for himself.

On the flip side Derozan is a cataclysmic playoff dropper and the antithesis of everything the Boston Celtics stood for. He can't/won't shoot threes and he's a cone on defense.

At least with DDR alongside a moderately healthy Embiid and Maxey we'll win 55+ games and a playoff round again.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#984 » by Kobblehead » Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:55 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Someone who I think is just as good as KCP and will cost half the price is Royce O'Neale. I'm all in on him if we can snag him in the $10-12 mil range.


It would probably take a lot to lure him away from Kevin Durant. They're good friends. They have a similar dynamic to what James Harden and P.J. Tucker have.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#985 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:58 pm

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ProcessDoctor wrote:Someone who I think is just as good as KCP and will cost half the price is Royce O'Neale. I'm all in on him if we can snag him in the $10-12 mil range.


It would probably take a lot to lure him away from Kevin Durant. They're good friends. They have a similar dynamic to what James Harden and P.J. Tucker have.


That’s too bad, because that Phoenix team is going nowhere.
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Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#986 » by Stanford » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:05 pm

If DeRozan is the guy, that's really the end of any goodwill Morey has in Philadelphia. He'll be a pariah for the remainder of his tenure.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#987 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:32 pm

Neubeck and Bodner did a prediction episode today since it's the eve of the draft. I'm gonna give it a go and do my best to take my own biases and preferences out. Here goes nothing...


1. We trade #16 and (reluctantly) the 2028 LAC 1st for Brandon Ingram. Morey sees all other options as less realistic and goes with someone he likes (but doesn't love) to give the team a chance at a big 3. Ingram does not waive his trade kicker, so costs $41 mil next season.

2. Morey follows up with another trade into cap space: The 2026 OKC 1st + future 2nd for Dorian Finney-Smith. Morey decides he needs a defensive presence next to Ingram, and DFS is his guy. He costs $15 mil next season, which leaves us with ~$10 mil to sign...

3. Caleb Martin to a 4-year, $48 mil deal! This one comes out of left field, but he's a player Morey has secretly coveted all along. We get a player who is tasked with taking on the tougher perimeter defensive assignment on a nightly basis.

4. We re-sign the fan favorite, Kelly Oubre, with the room exception.

5. We round out the roster with 3 vet min signings: Kyle Lowry, Dario Saric, and Andre Drummond.

6. What about the rest of last year's guys?
- Melton finds a home in Charlotte for the MLE
- Reed becomes a UFA after his contract is terminated. He signs with none other than the Utah Jazz.
- Robert Covington signs a vet min with Boston and averages 5 blocks and 7 steals against us. Plays all 82 games.
- After a long successful summer with France in the Olympics, Nico Batum decides to hang em up :(


That leaves the following as your 2024-2025 Philadelphia 76ers:


Maxey/Lowry
Martin/Oubre
Ingram/Council
Finney-Smith/Saric
Embiid/Drummond
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#988 » by Sixersftw » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:38 pm

BI and DDR as the most likely targets is extremely whelming.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#989 » by FireMorey » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:42 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Neubeck and Bodner did a prediction episode today since it's the eve of the draft. I'm gonna give it a go and do my best to take my own biases out. Here goes nothing...


1. We trade #16 and (reluctantly) the 2028 LAC 1st for Brandon Ingram. Morey sees all other options as less realistic and goes with someone he likes (but doesn't love) to give the team a chance at a big 3. Ingram does not waive his trade kicker, so costs $41 mil next season.

2. Morey follows up with another trade into cap space: The 2026 OKC 1st + future 2nd for Dorian Finney-Smith. Morey decides he needs a defensive presence next to Ingram, and DFS is his guy. He costs $15 mil next season, which leaves us with ~$10 mil to sign...

3. Caleb Martin to a 4-year, $48 mil deal! This one comes out of left field, but he's a player Morey has secretly coveted all along. We get a player who is tasked with taking on the tougher perimeter defensive assignment on a nightly basis.

4. We re-sign the fan favorite, Kelly Oubre, with the room exception.

5. We round out the roster with 3 vet min signings: Kyle Lowry, Dario Saric, and Andre Drummond.

6. What about the rest of last year's guys?
- Melton finds a home in Charlotte for the MLE
- Reed becomes a UFA after his contract is terminated. He signs with none other than the Utah Jazz.
- Robert Covington signs a vet min with Boston and averages 5 blocks and 7 steals against us. Plays all 82 games.
- After a long successful summer with France in the Olympics, Nico Batum decides to hang em up :(


That leaves the following as your 2024-2025 Philadelphia 76ers:


Maxey/Lowry
Martin/Oubre
Ingram/Council
Finney-Smith/Saric
Embiid/Drummond


If Morey punted on a season of Embiid's prime for that, well. *Points to the username*

Would be an utter disaster and give no questions about the level of incompetence running this organization. Not to mention the fact that he'd have to settle for something he didn't want that much is evidence in itself his grand plan blew up in his face.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#990 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:50 pm

FireMorey wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Neubeck and Bodner did a prediction episode today since it's the eve of the draft. I'm gonna give it a go and do my best to take my own biases out. Here goes nothing...


1. We trade #16 and (reluctantly) the 2028 LAC 1st for Brandon Ingram. Morey sees all other options as less realistic and goes with someone he likes (but doesn't love) to give the team a chance at a big 3. Ingram does not waive his trade kicker, so costs $41 mil next season.

2. Morey follows up with another trade into cap space: The 2026 OKC 1st + future 2nd for Dorian Finney-Smith. Morey decides he needs a defensive presence next to Ingram, and DFS is his guy. He costs $15 mil next season, which leaves us with ~$10 mil to sign...

3. Caleb Martin to a 4-year, $48 mil deal! This one comes out of left field, but he's a player Morey has secretly coveted all along. We get a player who is tasked with taking on the tougher perimeter defensive assignment on a nightly basis.

4. We re-sign the fan favorite, Kelly Oubre, with the room exception.

5. We round out the roster with 3 vet min signings: Kyle Lowry, Dario Saric, and Andre Drummond.

6. What about the rest of last year's guys?
- Melton finds a home in Charlotte for the MLE
- Reed becomes a UFA after his contract is terminated. He signs with none other than the Utah Jazz.
- Robert Covington signs a vet min with Boston and averages 5 blocks and 7 steals against us. Plays all 82 games.
- After a long successful summer with France in the Olympics, Nico Batum decides to hang em up :(


That leaves the following as your 2024-2025 Philadelphia 76ers:


Maxey/Lowry
Martin/Oubre
Ingram/Council
Finney-Smith/Saric
Embiid/Drummond


If Morey punted on a season of Embiid's prime for that, well. *Points to the username*

Would be an utter disaster and give no questions about the level of incompetence running this organization. Not to mention the fact that he'd have to settle for something he didn't want that much is evidence in itself his grand plan blew up in his face.


We get it, you don't like Morey. You even think we should fire him.
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Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#991 » by Mik317 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:55 pm

that is one depressing ass lineup lol

Imma need one young player to overhype, Darryl
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#992 » by stormi » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:55 pm

Sixersftw wrote:BI and DDR as the most likely targets is extremely whelming.


I'd be moderately excited for BI just due to his age and blend of shooting/length and different skillsets he's showcased in the past ie volume shooting from 3 / Point BI.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#993 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:57 pm

Unless it's substantially cheaper than I'm expecting, I'm feeling like it'll be a disaster if we get Ingram. Get him right before we are forced to re-sign him for an enormous contract. That would be a sign that Morey is putting every egg into the Ingram basket.

I like aspects of Ingram's game, but he'll be making way more than he's worth, unless he finds another level to his game.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#994 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:59 pm

Mik317 wrote:that is one depressing ass lineup lol

Imma need one young player to overhype, Darryl


Youth is not an option here lol. Those guys are all on rookie deals/less attainable!
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Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#995 » by Kobblehead » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:00 am

I really hope they stay away from Ingram.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#996 » by Mik317 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:01 am

never being able to make trades because we lack any real young talent every single deadline and then continuing to just throw picks away is nuts lol
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#997 » by the_process » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:03 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:Neubeck and Bodner did a prediction episode today since it's the eve of the draft. I'm gonna give it a go and do my best to take my own biases and preferences out. Here goes nothing...


1. We trade #16 and (reluctantly) the 2028 LAC 1st for Brandon Ingram. Morey sees all other options as less realistic and goes with someone he likes (but doesn't love) to give the team a chance at a big 3. Ingram does not waive his trade kicker, so costs $41 mil next season.

2. Morey follows up with another trade into cap space: The 2026 OKC 1st + future 2nd for Dorian Finney-Smith. Morey decides he needs a defensive presence next to Ingram, and DFS is his guy. He costs $15 mil next season, which leaves us with ~$10 mil to sign...

3. Caleb Martin to a 4-year, $48 mil deal! This one comes out of left field, but he's a player Morey has secretly coveted all along. We get a player who is tasked with taking on the tougher perimeter defensive assignment on a nightly basis.

4. We re-sign the fan favorite, Kelly Oubre, with the room exception.

5. We round out the roster with 3 vet min signings: Kyle Lowry, Dario Saric, and Andre Drummond.

6. What about the rest of last year's guys?
- Melton finds a home in Charlotte for the MLE
- Reed becomes a UFA after his contract is terminated. He signs with none other than the Utah Jazz.
- Robert Covington signs a vet min with Boston and averages 5 blocks and 7 steals against us. Plays all 82 games.
- After a long successful summer with France in the Olympics, Nico Batum decides to hang em up :(


That leaves the following as your 2024-2025 Philadelphia 76ers:


Maxey/Lowry
Martin/Oubre
Ingram/Council
Finney-Smith/Saric
Embiid/Drummond


I appreciate your effort.

But If this is what Morey has wasted our time for, he should be fired.

I would rather do LaVine and 11 for 16 and fill in with vet mins than do this.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#998 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:07 am

I believe Morey sees this as his last shot (just like we do) and won't shy away from using picks to build next year's team.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#999 » by Kobblehead » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:14 am

https://www.inquirer.com/sports/sixers-trade-brandon-ingram-nba-draft-lebron-james-paul-george-20240625.html

Well, if anyone was on the fence about Brandon Ingram....Marcus Hayes thinks we should do it.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

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