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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#981 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:50 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:“We need to draft a good role player who can play immediately”

We’re considering Naji Marshall in FA as a role player; let’s check his college stats:

24 AST%, 2 STL%, 17ppg, +.3 FTr, +.3 3fgr. Was the star of his team. Gotta always draft the prospects with star traits, not the college role players.

Wait, hold up. Why did the Pelicans view Naji Marshall as expendable?

Because of two college role players that were not stars are ahead of him in the pecking order.

Herbert Jones has a collegiate career 7.3 ppg and was 4th on his college team in scoring during his final year.

Trey Murphy has a collegiate career 11 ppg and was 3rd on his college team in scoring during his final year.


Yea but that's only taking scoring into consideration. Herb was by far the most efficient, best on defense, a 6'8 distributor. I also don't take career statistics into consideration at all unless it's to prove positively they are able to do something (ie Terrence Shannon was a defensive stopper prior to Illinois). His shooting was an insane turnaround. Completely unexpected.

Trey Murphy is a bit of an anomaly but him being on UVA should be taken into consideration. Bennett suppresses stats big time. Seems like gambling is a no-no on defense. Also name the last 20ppg scorer at UVA. It's more about team basketball. That said, he wasn't much of a passer, didn't draw fouls... There are enough indicators that he could become a role player (unreal shooter), but he wasn't my first choice back then.

But yea, the formula doesn't always work perfectly and there are outliers for sure.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#982 » by Kobblehead » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:02 am

Day before the draft and the only 1st round guy we worked out was Collier. This pick is like 90% traded at this point, sadly.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#983 » by 76ciology » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:37 am

Kobblehead wrote:Day before the draft and the only 1st round guy we worked out was Collier. This pick is like 90% traded at this point, sadly.


This.

90% traded. 9% Collier. 1% Edey.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#984 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:40 am

I've tried looking into it, Morey has never shows his hand here of who he's drafting.
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Post#985 » by 76ciology » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:47 am

I'm guessing the pick gets traded for a couple of first-round picks to stockpile for a bidding war for Ingram.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#986 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:48 am

I'll believe when we trade it...And then I'll get angry. Oh and here the thing. The pick won't be traded as part of a way to land a big time player. It'll be some stupid $hit where we get a second round pick and then get another first in 2029. Or better yet...Cash considerations. That's the worst.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#987 » by Arsenal » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:52 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I'll believe when we trade it...And then I'll get angry. Oh and here the thing. The pick won't be traded as part of a way to land a big time player. It'll be some stupid $hit where we get a second round pick and then get another first in 2029. Or better yet...Cash considerations. That's the worst.


Why get angry? Trading out of this weak 1st round for a 2nd plus a future 1st, plus extra cap this year makes a lot of sense.

You need anger management bruh!
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#988 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:00 am

Arsenal wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I'll believe when we trade it...And then I'll get angry. Oh and here the thing. The pick won't be traded as part of a way to land a big time player. It'll be some stupid $hit where we get a second round pick and then get another first in 2029. Or better yet...Cash considerations. That's the worst.


Why get angry? Trading out of this weak 1st round for a 2nd plus a future 1st, plus extra cap this year makes a lot of sense.

You need anger management bruh!


I disagree. There's talent where we are drafting. It honestly depends on what we trade the pick for. I damn sure don't want to live through another Mikel Bridges miss.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#989 » by ankle420breaker » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:24 am

Draft Day. Someone tell me who we want at 16 (assuming we keep the pick).

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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#990 » by Stanford » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:35 am

ankle420breaker wrote:Draft Day. Someone tell me who we want at 16 (assuming we keep the pick).

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I (someone who learned about these players through Youtube 3 weeks ago) want Ron Holland, Devin Carter or Rob Dillingham. Don't want a big, Jared McCain, or JaKobe Walter.

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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#991 » by Mik317 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:32 pm

I just want a young prospect to overrate. Its hard to do so with 2 way undrafted seniors man.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#992 » by ankle420breaker » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:44 pm

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ankle420breaker wrote:Draft Day. Someone tell me who we want at 16 (assuming we keep the pick).

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I (someone who learned about these players through Youtube 3 weeks ago) want Ron Holland, Devin Carter or Rob Dillingham. Don't want a big, Jared McCain, or JaKobe Walter.

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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#993 » by mjkvol » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:19 pm

It isn't happening, but I want a player who can contribute from day one in an area of need (defense, rebounding, 3 pt. shooting) and grow with Maxey and Council (assuming he's even here beyond this week).

I'm convinced at this point that the pick will be traded, probably for additional picks to use in a deal. Hope I'm wrong.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#994 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:25 pm

Mik317 wrote:I just want a young prospect to overrate. Its hard to do so with 2 way undrafted seniors man.


I’m sick enough to only need a second rounder to overhype unfortunately.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#995 » by Mik317 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:50 pm

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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#996 » by HotelVitale » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:59 pm

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ankle420breaker wrote:Draft Day. Someone tell me who we want at 16 (assuming we keep the pick).

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I (someone who learned about these players through Youtube 3 weeks ago) want Ron Holland, Devin Carter or Rob Dillingham.


All 3 are widely expected to be gone by #16, unf. Could see Holland falling cuz that shot (then again Amen and Ausar and Black went top 6 last year).
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#997 » by Stanford » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:04 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
Stanford wrote:
ankle420breaker wrote:Draft Day. Someone tell me who we want at 16 (assuming we keep the pick).

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I (someone who learned about these players through Youtube 3 weeks ago) want Ron Holland, Devin Carter or Rob Dillingham.


All 3 are widely expected to be gone by #16, unf. Could see Holland falling cuz that shot (then again Amen and Ausar and Black went top 6 last year).


I've only heard that Carter has a lottery promise. **** happens.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#998 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:13 pm

Which player would you bet has the best career?

I think I’m drinking the Devin Carter kool aid and that he’s my safest bet to have a great career.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#999 » by mksp » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:02 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:Justin Edwards is just so unathletic, though. And he seems like he has no confidence in himself. I would pass on him, even if he dropped to #41. Just don't think he has any upside.


What do you think about Ryan Dunn?

Career 4 ppg player in the NBA. He'll be another Andre Roberson type. All-NBA defensive talent, hopeless offensively. Whatever team drafts him could be stuck going 4 on 5 every night on the offensive end when he's on the floor.


https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft :cry:
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1000 » by Stanford » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:09 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:
Stanford wrote:
What do you think about Ryan Dunn?

Career 4 ppg player in the NBA. He'll be another Andre Roberson type. All-NBA defensive talent, hopeless offensively. Whatever team drafts him could be stuck going 4 on 5 every night on the offensive end when he's on the floor.


https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft :cry:


The Ringer blows. Worst NBA coverage.

(I was wondering about Dunn at 41 btw)

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