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Re: Kings/Bulls 

Post#21 » by hugepatsfan » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:50 am

OGSactownballer wrote:
hugepatsfan wrote:It makes sense that teams want incentive to take Lavine's contract, but that doesn't mean it makes sense for CHI to oblige. If it costs meaningful asset(s) to move him, then CHI should just hold onto him.


Yeah. That makes perfect sense.

Keep Levine @$47million/year avg for three more years.

Watch DeRozan walk or overpay him too in his backside thirties.

Have a pissed off Levine who plays when he feels like it.

Stall the development of your young players and destroy their trade value til they walk.

Wallow in mediocrity and cap hell for several more years desperately trying to be a play in team.

Yeah that makes perfect sense vs sell cheap on a mistake and let him be someone else’s problem and break that contract into shorter smaller and mineable pieces. Yes it will cost you some to move but for a rebuild you want to suck anyway.


I didn't say they shouldn't sell cheap on Lavine. People in here are posting that they should give up a lottery pick to move him though. Giving up a significant pick to dump him vs. selling him cheap are two different things.
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Re: Kings/Bulls 

Post#22 » by OxAndFox » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:00 am

hugepatsfan wrote:
OGSactownballer wrote:
hugepatsfan wrote:It makes sense that teams want incentive to take Lavine's contract, but that doesn't mean it makes sense for CHI to oblige. If it costs meaningful asset(s) to move him, then CHI should just hold onto him.


Yeah. That makes perfect sense.

Keep Levine @$47million/year avg for three more years.

Watch DeRozan walk or overpay him too in his backside thirties.

Have a pissed off Levine who plays when he feels like it.

Stall the development of your young players and destroy their trade value til they walk.

Wallow in mediocrity and cap hell for several more years desperately trying to be a play in team.

Yeah that makes perfect sense vs sell cheap on a mistake and let him be someone else’s problem and break that contract into shorter smaller and mineable pieces. Yes it will cost you some to move but for a rebuild you want to suck anyway.


I didn't say they shouldn't sell cheap on Lavine. People in here are posting that they should give up a lottery pick to move him though. Giving up a significant pick to dump him vs. selling him cheap are two different things.


The problem for the Bulls is they don't have anything to attach to him.
They have no 2nds until 2028. The '25 Port 1st most likely doesn't convey so the earliest 1st they could offer is their own 2028.
IMO they should be trying to get a deal done for the #11 with someone to move down and then get a more palatable 1st to attach to Lavine.
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Re: Kings/Bulls 

Post#23 » by Dominator83 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:58 am

hugepatsfan wrote:
OGSactownballer wrote:
hugepatsfan wrote:It makes sense that teams want incentive to take Lavine's contract, but that doesn't mean it makes sense for CHI to oblige. If it costs meaningful asset(s) to move him, then CHI should just hold onto him.


Yeah. That makes perfect sense.

Keep Levine @$47million/year avg for three more years.

Watch DeRozan walk or overpay him too in his backside thirties.

Have a pissed off Levine who plays when he feels like it.

Stall the development of your young players and destroy their trade value til they walk.

Wallow in mediocrity and cap hell for several more years desperately trying to be a play in team.

Yeah that makes perfect sense vs sell cheap on a mistake and let him be someone else’s problem and break that contract into shorter smaller and mineable pieces. Yes it will cost you some to move but for a rebuild you want to suck anyway.


I didn't say they shouldn't sell cheap on Lavine. People in here are posting that they should give up a lottery pick to move him though. Giving up a significant pick to dump him vs. selling him cheap are two different things.


Yea as a Bulls fan, no thanks we'll just keep him and not sell when his value is at an all-time low. It has only been one year since...

"Zach LaVine averaged 27.0 points, 4.7 assists and 3.5 rebounds in 22 games after the All-Star Game in 2022-23."

I'm not giving away assets to someone for the privilege of taking him. I'd rather just let DDR walk and build him back up.

To the Kings guy: Sure we're mediocre, but we're mediocre whether we trade Zach or not. But you guys aren't exactly going anywhere either, and i don't see that changing. Can you really picture the kings, as currently constituted, to be hoisting the Larry O'Brien anytime soon? I don't. Will getting Lavine put them over the hump? maybe, maybe not. But the Kings in their current state are EXACTLY the type of team that needs to grow a pair of balls and take some chances on a star player (when healthy and engaged) who can be had for little relative to his full peak value. Just last summer he was easily worth 2 1st round picks. Whats the saying we use in the stock market? BUY LOW!

In the end i don't think neither one of our teams do anything meaningful in the next handful of years regardless. But yea, i do feel like one of Lavine or DDR will be gone. But i highly doubt both will be. If Lavine gets traded, we'll just be stuck with DDR on a bloated new deal. So either way we're looking at one of these guys to still be here, and on a big contract. I'd choose to keep Zach all day everyday over the double whammy of retaining DDR, AND taking one of these poo poo platters from another team.
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