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Post#81 » by pipfan » Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:45 am

I know I'm getting old, but why do people need to curse like this? As an educator, it drives me crazy. Have some dignity and speak properly-it's a press conference, not a night out with your boys drinking.
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Post#82 » by Sane » Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:54 am

pipfan wrote:I know I'm getting old, but why do people need to curse like this? As an educator, it drives me crazy. Have some dignity and speak properly-it's a press conference, not a night out with your boys drinking.


Curse words don’t mean what they used to, they do not communicate the same thing that they used to.

Professionalism is an ever-changing agreement in society, it’s not a hard coded set of rules.

I used to be a government financial auditor, the most professional financial company I dealt with had a policy of coming to work and meetings in Hawaiian shirts and Bermuda shorts.

If you are judging people’s dedication to their job by whether they curse or not, you’re going to miss out on some amazing people.

You getting old has nothing to do with it. You can adopt a modern or traditional mindset at any age. There’s nothing wrong with the fact that you don’t like cursing in professional settings. That’s your preference and you should celebrate it rather than attribute it to aging. I know my opinion has little value to you as a stranger, but the part where you project your preference as though it’s a rigid social contract is what makes you feel disappointed inside unnecessarily. You can believe what you believe and if you wanted you could still root for people who believe other things.

Personally I find it refreshing that in such a corporatized room someone reminded everyone we’re human and sometimes rough around the edges. Flavor of life.
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Post#83 » by -Luke- » Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:16 am

Lakers' coach introductory press conferences used to be more fun (Buss/Riley/West).
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Post#84 » by Sweet Serenity » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:16 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
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LaLover11 wrote:The warriors and Steph are cooked :kiss

Very true

Spurs, Blazers, Warriors, Lakers bottom 4 next year
Lakers winning the chip next season

Join the bandwagon LeBron haters :rofl:


They’re not but hey, at least this hire is going to make things entertaining.
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Post#85 » by LaLover11 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:25 pm

Sweet Serenity wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
BayAreaDub wrote:Very true

Spurs, Blazers, Warriors, Lakers bottom 4 next year
Lakers winning the chip next season

Join the bandwagon LeBron haters :rofl:


They’re not but hey, at least this hire is going to make things entertaining.


Lakers winning Minimum 1 ring in the next 3 seasons
Bronny will become Murray 2.0
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Post#86 » by Sweet Serenity » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:51 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
LaLover11 wrote: Lakers winning the chip next season

Join the bandwagon LeBron haters :rofl:


They’re not but hey, at least this hire is going to make things entertaining.


Lakers winning Minimum 1 ring in the next 3 seasons


Keep dreaming kid.
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Post#87 » by LaLover11 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:53 pm

Sweet Serenity wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
They’re not but hey, at least this hire is going to make things entertaining.


Lakers winning Minimum 1 ring in the next 3 seasons


Keep dreaming kid.


I know you don't dream anymore grandpa
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Post#88 » by The Explorer » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:55 pm

pipfan wrote:I know I'm getting old, but why do people need to curse like this? As an educator, it drives me crazy. Have some dignity and speak properly-it's a press conference, not a night out with your boys drinking.


It's his way of using powerful, memorable language to win over an audience - the fan base. Judging by the response from Lakers fans on the internet, it worked. He's a savvy media guy, he knows exactly what he's doing.

Even those he has young kids, he doesn't strike me as someone who will keep his tongue clean.
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Post#89 » by Onlytimewilltel » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:10 pm

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pipfan wrote:I know I'm getting old, but why do people need to curse like this? As an educator, it drives me crazy. Have some dignity and speak properly-it's a press conference, not a night out with your boys drinking.


Curse words don’t mean what they used to, they do not communicate the same thing that they used to.

Professionalism is an ever-changing agreement in society, it’s not a hard coded set of rules.

I used to be a government financial auditor, the most professional financial company I dealt with had a policy of coming to work and meetings in Hawaiian shirts and Bermuda shorts.

If you are judging people’s dedication to their job by whether they curse or not, you’re going to miss out on some amazing people.

You getting old has nothing to do with it. You can adopt a modern or traditional mindset at any age. There’s nothing wrong with the fact that you don’t like cursing in professional settings. That’s your preference and you should celebrate it rather than attribute it to aging. I know my opinion has little value to you as a stranger, but the part where you project your preference as though it’s a rigid social contract is what makes you feel disappointed inside unnecessarily. You can believe what you believe and if you wanted you could still root for people who believe other things.

Personally I find it refreshing that in such a corporatized room someone reminded everyone we’re human and sometimes rough around the edges. Flavor of life.


It’s ever changing but not always for the better obviously. What is edgy and refreshing now will be the norm and then new limits keep getting pushed.

I actually like the JJ hire but don’t like that he was cursing at the press conference. Same way I didn’t like when Jalen Brown cursed during his MVP speech. There are kids watching and a lot of parents are trying to make sure they don’t use bad words at that age and these dudes don’t realize (don’t care is the better word I guess) that they’re on national/local TV in some cases.
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Post#90 » by og15 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:33 pm

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Did anyone ask him why, in his opinion, he can coach better without any experience than other coaches who have been assistant coaches for years waiting for their chance?

I mean you miss the professionalism. I miss the days when people were more introspective and would say things like, "I am not ready to coach. I need to go out and learn the craft first." It would not be fair to the players I coach or myself to enter the coaching profession unprepared.

Well, that is just me. People have no shame now I mean what would the player JJ Redick think of the coach JJ Redick? Most likely, he would laugh in his face. You believe that you can enter the league and coach in this league as a former player. Really?


I agree with that as well....

Nothing to do with my post on cussing/swearing though.

It won't be long until the media pile onto JJ after a few losses.

Unfortunately, JJ always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. That's not to diminish his knowledge or ability, he is obviously knowledgeable, but in his media role, he was quick to belittle other's opinions that differ from his.


Hmm, you mean, kinda like Phil Jackson and Popovich? They sort of act like that also… and it worked out for them I’d say.

I’m with some others here who actually think JJ is smart enough and has the guts to “grab the bull by the horn” and actually become a great coach.

I know people are taking it as a joke, but this guy doesn’t back down from anyone when he thinks he’s right (he certainly stood up to screaming A a few times and several others and put them in their place). Low key I think this guy has a good chance to be a great coach.

JJ has some personality traits that seem like they could help, he's got dedication, he seems like the kind of person who digs deep into whatever he's working on, and he's got tenacity which when harnessed well is very helpful. He also seems like he's a guy who is interested in collaboration with those he's working with and learning as he progresses.

Whether or not that will play out as him being a good coach with the Lakers, I don't know. The question for him will be if the Lakers situation doesn't work as he desires, whether he will continue to get opportunities.
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Post#91 » by Sixers in 4 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:30 am

dockingsched wrote:Newsflash to so many of you, being an nba head coach is hard, many of them fail several times.

Even the ones with assistant experience fail at spectacular rates. Some of you act like being an assistant is some guarantee of nba coaching potential. Assistants that promote fail ALL the time. Gotta get over this idea that hiring some assistant guaranteed anything.


The NBA draft is hard why bother hiring scouts? Just have a chimpanzee spin a wheel with five names on it.

Why even try to have a process and select the best applicant when nothing in life is guaranteed? If the best argument for JJ Redick hiring then that just means there is was no argument to hire JJ Redick
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Post#92 » by dockingsched » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:44 am

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dockingsched wrote:Newsflash to so many of you, being an nba head coach is hard, many of them fail several times.

Even the ones with assistant experience fail at spectacular rates. Some of you act like being an assistant is some guarantee of nba coaching potential. Assistants that promote fail ALL the time. Gotta get over this idea that hiring some assistant guaranteed anything.


The NBA draft is hard why bother hiring scouts? Just have a chimpanzee spin a wheel with five names on it.

Why even try to have a process and select the best applicant when nothing in life is guaranteed? If the best argument for JJ Redick hiring then that just means there is was no argument to hire JJ Redick


Let me rephrase, being a head coach is complex. To think that simply having prior experience as an assistant guarantees any success is a stance that lacks any depth.

It’s like any industry, just cause you’re good at your current job doesn’t mean you’re cut out for the job above you. And just cause you check off some experience checklist doesn’t mean you actually have the skills to perform the job any better than someone else who has the transferable skills coming from some other source.

any organization identifying and hiring candidates simply based off their previous job titles and not based off some assessment of their actual skills and how they’ll apply to succeeding at the new job, is an organization with archaic hiring methods.
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Post#93 » by KembaWalker » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:55 am

dockingsched wrote:
Sixers in 4 wrote:
dockingsched wrote:Newsflash to so many of you, being an nba head coach is hard, many of them fail several times.

Even the ones with assistant experience fail at spectacular rates. Some of you act like being an assistant is some guarantee of nba coaching potential. Assistants that promote fail ALL the time. Gotta get over this idea that hiring some assistant guaranteed anything.


The NBA draft is hard why bother hiring scouts? Just have a chimpanzee spin a wheel with five names on it.

Why even try to have a process and select the best applicant when nothing in life is guaranteed? If the best argument for JJ Redick hiring then that just means there is was no argument to hire JJ Redick


Let me rephrase, being a head coach is complex. To think that simply having prior experience as an assistant guarantees any success is a stance that lacks any depth.

It’s like any industry, just cause you’re good at your current job doesn’t mean you’re cut out for the job above you. And just cause you check off some experience checklist doesn’t mean you actually have the skills to perform the job any better than someone else who has the transferable skills coming from some other source.

any organization identifying and hiring candidates simply based off their previous job titles and not based off some assessment of their actual skills and how they’ll apply to succeeding at the new job, is an organization with archaic hiring methods.



Their assessment was that he is LeBrons podcast buddy. And Jeanie probably has another coaching crush she’s paying to grope on
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Post#94 » by pipfan » Wed Jun 26, 2024 6:10 am

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
Sane wrote:
pipfan wrote:I know I'm getting old, but why do people need to curse like this? As an educator, it drives me crazy. Have some dignity and speak properly-it's a press conference, not a night out with your boys drinking.


Curse words don’t mean what they used to, they do not communicate the same thing that they used to.

Professionalism is an ever-changing agreement in society, it’s not a hard coded set of rules.

I used to be a government financial auditor, the most professional financial company I dealt with had a policy of coming to work and meetings in Hawaiian shirts and Bermuda shorts.

If you are judging people’s dedication to their job by whether they curse or not, you’re going to miss out on some amazing people.

You getting old has nothing to do with it. You can adopt a modern or traditional mindset at any age. There’s nothing wrong with the fact that you don’t like cursing in professional settings. That’s your preference and you should celebrate it rather than attribute it to aging. I know my opinion has little value to you as a stranger, but the part where you project your preference as though it’s a rigid social contract is what makes you feel disappointed inside unnecessarily. You can believe what you believe and if you wanted you could still root for people who believe other things.

Personally I find it refreshing that in such a corporatized room someone reminded everyone we’re human and sometimes rough around the edges. Flavor of life.


It’s ever changing but not always for the better obviously. What is edgy and refreshing now will be the norm and then new limits keep getting pushed.

I actually like the JJ hire but don’t like that he was cursing at the press conference. Same way I didn’t like when Jalen Brown cursed during his MVP speech. There are kids watching and a lot of parents are trying to make sure they don’t use bad words at that age and these dudes don’t realize (don’t care is the better word I guess) that they’re on national/local TV in some cases.

My comment about cursing had nothing to do with JJ's ability as a coach-I have no idea about his coaching talent and don't really care. I liked him as a player, and he seemed fine as a commentator.

It's just society has changed, and I don't think it's for the best. I'm an educator, been doing it for 35 years, and I see how the change in societal norms has made my job tougher. The idea of respect has evolved-this is just a TINY example of it, and the culture is more toxic/combative than ever.

Oh well, good luck to JJ
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Post#95 » by Sane » Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:50 am

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
Sane wrote:
pipfan wrote:I know I'm getting old, but why do people need to curse like this? As an educator, it drives me crazy. Have some dignity and speak properly-it's a press conference, not a night out with your boys drinking.


Curse words don’t mean what they used to, they do not communicate the same thing that they used to.

Professionalism is an ever-changing agreement in society, it’s not a hard coded set of rules.

I used to be a government financial auditor, the most professional financial company I dealt with had a policy of coming to work and meetings in Hawaiian shirts and Bermuda shorts.

If you are judging people’s dedication to their job by whether they curse or not, you’re going to miss out on some amazing people.

You getting old has nothing to do with it. You can adopt a modern or traditional mindset at any age. There’s nothing wrong with the fact that you don’t like cursing in professional settings. That’s your preference and you should celebrate it rather than attribute it to aging. I know my opinion has little value to you as a stranger, but the part where you project your preference as though it’s a rigid social contract is what makes you feel disappointed inside unnecessarily. You can believe what you believe and if you wanted you could still root for people who believe other things.

Personally I find it refreshing that in such a corporatized room someone reminded everyone we’re human and sometimes rough around the edges. Flavor of life.


It’s ever changing but not always for the better obviously. What is edgy and refreshing now will be the norm and then new limits keep getting pushed.

I actually like the JJ hire but don’t like that he was cursing at the press conference. Same way I didn’t like when Jalen Brown cursed during his MVP speech. There are kids watching and a lot of parents are trying to make sure they don’t use bad words at that age and these dudes don’t realize (don’t care is the better word I guess) that they’re on national/local TV in some cases.


Again, it’s a 100% subjective opinion that it’s getting worse. To me it’s getting better.

It’s not their job to be a role model for other kids, if they feel their kids are educated enough to understand how/why cursing happens they’ve done their job.

This mindset of sanitizing everything for kids won’t lead to less cursing, it will just lead to less kids.
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Post#96 » by Sane » Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:53 am

pipfan wrote:
Onlytimewilltel wrote:
Sane wrote:
Curse words don’t mean what they used to, they do not communicate the same thing that they used to.

Professionalism is an ever-changing agreement in society, it’s not a hard coded set of rules.

I used to be a government financial auditor, the most professional financial company I dealt with had a policy of coming to work and meetings in Hawaiian shirts and Bermuda shorts.

If you are judging people’s dedication to their job by whether they curse or not, you’re going to miss out on some amazing people.

You getting old has nothing to do with it. You can adopt a modern or traditional mindset at any age. There’s nothing wrong with the fact that you don’t like cursing in professional settings. That’s your preference and you should celebrate it rather than attribute it to aging. I know my opinion has little value to you as a stranger, but the part where you project your preference as though it’s a rigid social contract is what makes you feel disappointed inside unnecessarily. You can believe what you believe and if you wanted you could still root for people who believe other things.

Personally I find it refreshing that in such a corporatized room someone reminded everyone we’re human and sometimes rough around the edges. Flavor of life.


It’s ever changing but not always for the better obviously. What is edgy and refreshing now will be the norm and then new limits keep getting pushed.

I actually like the JJ hire but don’t like that he was cursing at the press conference. Same way I didn’t like when Jalen Brown cursed during his MVP speech. There are kids watching and a lot of parents are trying to make sure they don’t use bad words at that age and these dudes don’t realize (don’t care is the better word I guess) that they’re on national/local TV in some cases.

My comment about cursing had nothing to do with JJ's ability as a coach-I have no idea about his coaching talent and don't really care. I liked him as a player, and he seemed fine as a commentator.

It's just society has changed, and I don't think it's for the best. I'm an educator, been doing it for 35 years, and I see how the change in societal norms has made my job tougher. The idea of respect has evolved-this is just a TINY example of it, and the culture is more toxic/combative than ever.

Oh well, good luck to JJ


I’m sorry it has made your job more difficult and educators are already under immense pressure but less censorship and self-censorship is best for the world.

It’s just not received as toxic or unprofessional by the generation that’s taking over this planet. It’s a choice to see it that way, it’s not a hard fact. Your approach is to ditch those words in these settings but the new generation came up with a more creative solution of changing the meaning of the words.

Again it’s subjective, no one is wrong until they impose their beliefs on others.
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Post#97 » by ballzboyee » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:34 am

Dropping F-bomb's on the first day on the job. They thought they were getting Pat Riley, but they actually hired Bobby Knight. He's cursing and soon he'll be choking players. This is gonna be good. We are almost at the trifecta. All we need now is for the Lakers to take Bronny in the first round. The Lakers are by far the most entertaining in the league.
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Post#98 » by Sakkreth » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:49 am

It's gonna be a **** show and I love it :lol:
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Post#99 » by pipfan » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:40 am

Sane wrote:
pipfan wrote:
Onlytimewilltel wrote:
It’s ever changing but not always for the better obviously. What is edgy and refreshing now will be the norm and then new limits keep getting pushed.

I actually like the JJ hire but don’t like that he was cursing at the press conference. Same way I didn’t like when Jalen Brown cursed during his MVP speech. There are kids watching and a lot of parents are trying to make sure they don’t use bad words at that age and these dudes don’t realize (don’t care is the better word I guess) that they’re on national/local TV in some cases.

My comment about cursing had nothing to do with JJ's ability as a coach-I have no idea about his coaching talent and don't really care. I liked him as a player, and he seemed fine as a commentator.

It's just society has changed, and I don't think it's for the best. I'm an educator, been doing it for 35 years, and I see how the change in societal norms has made my job tougher. The idea of respect has evolved-this is just a TINY example of it, and the culture is more toxic/combative than ever.

Oh well, good luck to JJ


I’m sorry it has made your job more difficult and educators are already under immense pressure but less censorship and self-censorship is best for the world.

It’s just not received as toxic or unprofessional by the generation that’s taking over this planet. It’s a choice to see it that way, it’s not a hard fact. Your approach is to ditch those words in these settings but the new generation came up with a more creative solution of changing the meaning of the words.

Again it’s subjective, no one is wrong until they impose their beliefs on others.


But it's not censorship-he said what he wanted. No one is trying to censor him-just comment that this is indicative of how society has evolved. And of course, it's not a "fact" that it's unprofessional, just what societal norms used to be. I don't live in the States, but I know the toxicity of the culture has gotten worse (according to what I see from outside and what is reported to me). I don't think the meaning of "f___" has changed at all, just the acceptance of its use in public life. To me, it's a negative-that's all.

Thanks for your thoughts, interesting to hear them (even if I don't agree)
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Post#100 » by Sixers in 4 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:45 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
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Sixers in 4 wrote:
The NBA draft is hard why bother hiring scouts? Just have a chimpanzee spin a wheel with five names on it.

Why even try to have a process and select the best applicant when nothing in life is guaranteed? If the best argument for JJ Redick hiring then that just means there is was no argument to hire JJ Redick


Let me rephrase, being a head coach is complex. To think that simply having prior experience as an assistant guarantees any success is a stance that lacks any depth.

It’s like any industry, just cause you’re good at your current job doesn’t mean you’re cut out for the job above you. And just cause you check off some experience checklist doesn’t mean you actually have the skills to perform the job any better than someone else who has the transferable skills coming from some other source.

any organization identifying and hiring candidates simply based off their previous job titles and not based off some assessment of their actual skills and how they’ll apply to succeeding at the new job, is an organization with archaic hiring methods.



Their assessment was that he is LeBrons podcast buddy. And Jeanie probably has another coaching crush she’s paying to grope on


It makes perfect sense to consider other considerations besides experience when selecting from a pool of highly qualified applicants. But you have some sort of baseline standard beforehand of what makes someone qualified for the job. Does that mean coaching in the NBA for 10 years either as an assistant or head coach. Does that include NCAA or foreign teams. For each club the answer will be different but only once a coach meets that criteria can you then move on to how their other skills will fit and mesh with the club.

What makes JJ Redick so much more of a better candidate that he should jump ahead of those people? There are 32 NBA teams, hundreds of assistants, tens of NCAA coaches waiting for an opportunity, and numerous coaches overseas who would love to join an NBA staff. However, Redick has not coached at any level and has zero experience. He is simply unqualified to be an NBA coach.

It's a complete joke he is coaching the Lakers and it shows how unserious of a franchise they are.

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