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The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2

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Assuming this is the last major addition, are you more excited than you were last offseason?

Yes
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No
1
2%
About the same
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33%
 
Total votes: 45

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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#121 » by Saberestar » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:05 am

Crives wrote:Royce S&T for Johnson?

That trade isn't allowed by the rules.

And Royce will earn way less money than Cam J.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#122 » by thamadkant » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:06 am

BobbieL wrote:
Crives wrote:Royce S&T for Johnson?


Not sure the math works

Gambo and Flex are shooting down Durant trades

Too bad - suns should listen



Flex doesn't know crap except what Booker's brother tells him.

Booker is obviously against trading KD for picks. He wants to win but it's unlikely the suns can go deep with such a messy structure.

Booker can go as well for all I care. I would ring Pistons and ask for Cade in a Booker trade. Sure start a new fresh rebuild around him.

Putting Kool Aid aside, the Suns as is, is 2 tiers below Celtics and a tier below Mavericks, Thunder, Nuggets, Wolves with NO room for improvement and No future. It's as bleak as it can get. The 3 All Stars only look good on paper.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#123 » by Mulhollanddrive » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:07 am

Knicks gave up their future for Brunson era.

At least we have Booker and Durant.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#124 » by BobbieL » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:07 am

thamadkant wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
KdoubleDees23 wrote:

Sengun, Brooks, Amen Thompson , 3 firsts for KD

Read on Twitter



Gambo is always posting like a fan instead of being a journalist of some sort. I don't think Ishiba gives him any information anyways.


I think Suns seeing how competitive the league is with thunder getting better, Wolves on the rise, Celtics absolutely being stacked, Mavs have flexibility to improve, Nuggets also looking to reload...Suns trio of Booker, Durant and Beal rely on a massive improvement on both ends to even sniff the 2nd round. Considering KD, Beal are High Risk to get injuries and miss games, I think Ishiba needs to listen to his risk assessor and reinvest on another path.

Suns have too many holes to be a contender again. And need immense luck with health and injuries to have a chance at the playoffs... it's just ridiculously unlikely the team will win a ring or go deep in the western playoffs.

Ishiba needs to be realistic.



You get it! 100%

Suns won’t sniff the WCF with this roster. No flexibility
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#125 » by BobbieL » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:08 am

thamadkant wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Crives wrote:Royce S&T for Johnson?


Not sure the math works

Gambo and Flex are shooting down Durant trades

Too bad - suns should listen



Flex doesn't know crap except what Booker's brother tells him.

Booker is obviously against trading KD for picks. He wants to win but it's unlikely the suns can go deep with such a messy structure.

Booker can go as well for all I care. I would ring Pistons and ask for Cade in a Booker trade. Sure start a new fresh rebuild around him.

Putting Kool Aid aside, the Suns as is, is 2 tiers below Celtics and a tier below Mavericks, Thunder, Nuggets, Wolves with NO room for improvement and No future. It's as bleak as it can get. The 3 All Stars only look good on paper.


I am not attached to Booker either
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#126 » by Slim Charless » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:08 am

thamadkant wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Crives wrote:Royce S&T for Johnson?


Not sure the math works

Gambo and Flex are shooting down Durant trades

Too bad - suns should listen



Flex doesn't know crap except what Booker's brother tells him.

Booker is obviously against trading KD for picks. He wants to win but it's unlikely the suns can go deep with such a messy structure.

Booker can go as well for all I care. I would ring Pistons and ask for Cade in a Booker trade. Sure start a new fresh rebuild around him.

Putting Kool Aid aside, the Suns as is, is 2 tiers below Celtics and a tier below Mavericks, Thunder, Nuggets, Wolves with NO room for improvement and No future. It's as bleak as it can get. The 3 All Stars only look good on paper.


I'd trade Booker to Houston personally.

Jalen Green/Eason/Thompson/Whitmore/#3/our picks that they have

Done.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#127 » by thamadkant » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:09 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Knicks gave up their future for Brunson era.

At least we have Booker and Durant.



Sarcasm?

The Knicks have a very good structure and deep. Not to mention focus on defense and chemistry.


Suns look horrific to watch.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#128 » by BobbieL » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:12 am

Slim Charless wrote:
thamadkant wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Not sure the math works

Gambo and Flex are shooting down Durant trades

Too bad - suns should listen



Flex doesn't know crap except what Booker's brother tells him.

Booker is obviously against trading KD for picks. He wants to win but it's unlikely the suns can go deep with such a messy structure.

Booker can go as well for all I care. I would ring Pistons and ask for Cade in a Booker trade. Sure start a new fresh rebuild around him.

Putting Kool Aid aside, the Suns as is, is 2 tiers below Celtics and a tier below Mavericks, Thunder, Nuggets, Wolves with NO room for improvement and No future. It's as bleak as it can get. The 3 All Stars only look good on paper.


I'd trade Booker to Houston personally.

Jalen Green/Eason/Thompson/Whitmore/#3/our picks that they have

Done.


Trade them both… Beal as the two guard

Truly - I know it won’t happen but I am open as this team is not winning
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#129 » by Mulhollanddrive » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:14 am

6 first rounders for maybe the 35th best player in the league
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#130 » by thamadkant » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:15 am

The sooner the suns start its new core the sooner they can come back to being a contender again.

Beat Lakers to the rebuild. Let Lakers sacrifice 3 more seasons with an aging LeBron and completely waste AD's all star years.

Don't be the Lakers and hang on to something futile.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#131 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:17 am

If I'm trying to outstrategize the Knicks AND get two of my top 5 of:
1- Tyler Kolek.
2- Ryan Dunn.
3- Yves Missi.
4- Kel'el Ware.
Tyler Smith.
I've come up with this 3 team trade:
Phoenix/Toronto/ Milwaukee.
Toronto-
Brook Lopez/Little/PHNX 2031 1st (top 4 protected)/ 33rd pick.
Milwaukee-
Nurkic/19th pick/ BOS 28' 2nd.

Phoenix-
Poetl/23rd pick (MIL)/ 31st pick (TOR).

We basically swap Nurkic, Little, and our 2031 1st (top 4 protected), a future 2nd, for Jacob Poetl/ 23rd and 31st picks. We now have the 22nd, 23rd, and 31st picks in this draft! Now we can get our top two prospects before New York!
22- Tyler Kolek. Playmaking floor general.
23- Ryan Dunn. Elite explosive athletic wing.
31- Yves Missi. Long, mobile, explosive rim running ELITE shot-blocking center.
*** We use the 3 available two ways (from the undrafted pool) to fill out our G League with high upside offensive scorers!!
1- Zyon Pullin. 44% from three, 84% FT.
2- Mantas Rubstavicius. 42% from three, 66% TS.
3- Ulriche Comche or Quinton Post.
- Comche 6'11 with a 7'4 wingspan 38% from three, 3.2 blocks/ 4.0 assists.
- Post 7'1 with a 7'2 wingspan 43% from three, 82% FT, 3.0 assists, 2 blocks.
Now we can keep these players and will have addressed all three of our offseason goals even prior to free agency. And we'll still have 3 available two-way options from the undrafted pool for further upside/depths assets too. And can use free agency now specifically for experienced veteran depth pieces.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#132 » by Slim Charless » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:18 am

Wow. So the Rockets have all of our future now...and they want KD? I do the deal. I'd want Thompson included in said deal but him and all 3 of our picks back? I'm game.

Also would do the aforementioned Booker deal if they add in Jalen/Cam/Eason as well.

I think it's happens 1 way or another.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#133 » by Slim Charless » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:20 am

BobbieL wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
thamadkant wrote:

Flex doesn't know crap except what Booker's brother tells him.

Booker is obviously against trading KD for picks. He wants to win but it's unlikely the suns can go deep with such a messy structure.

Booker can go as well for all I care. I would ring Pistons and ask for Cade in a Booker trade. Sure start a new fresh rebuild around him.

Putting Kool Aid aside, the Suns as is, is 2 tiers below Celtics and a tier below Mavericks, Thunder, Nuggets, Wolves with NO room for improvement and No future. It's as bleak as it can get. The 3 All Stars only look good on paper.


I'd trade Booker to Houston personally.

Jalen Green/Eason/Thompson/Whitmore/#3/our picks that they have

Done.


Trade them both… Beal as the two guard

Truly - I know it won’t happen but I am open as this team is not winning


We're not tanking for Cooper. You all can just get that silliness out of your heads. Maybe Ishbia will move Booker OR KD, but not both. No way.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#134 » by Crives » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:21 am

Saberestar wrote:
Crives wrote:Royce S&T for Johnson?

That trade isn't allowed by the rules.

And Royce will earn way less money than Cam J.


Yes it’s allowed.. we can send out S&T, just can’t receive S&T
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#135 » by thamadkant » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:22 am

Slim Charless wrote:Wow. So the Rockets have all of our future now...and they want KD? I do the deal. I'd want Thompson included in said deal but him and all 3 of our picks back? I'm game.

Also would do the aforementioned Booker deal if they add in Jalen/Cam/Eason as well.

I think it's happens 1 way or another.



Booker KD to Rockets I'm OK with also

But does the new rule allow this since Suns are 2nd Apron team.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#136 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:24 am

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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#137 » by Fo-Real » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:31 am

thamadkant wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:Wow. So the Rockets have all of our future now...and they want KD? I do the deal. I'd want Thompson included in said deal but him and all 3 of our picks back? I'm game.

Also would do the aforementioned Booker deal if they add in Jalen/Cam/Eason as well.

I think it's happens 1 way or another.



Booker KD to Rockets I'm OK with also

But does the new rule allow this since Suns are 2nd Apron team.


Stop it!
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#138 » by BurningHeart » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:32 am

Trade all our players. Houston wants Durant? Heeeere you go. Who wants Booker? I've got a Beal heahhhh.

Knicks with an awesome team. Adding Bridges to that Nova Mix is insane.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#139 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:36 am

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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#140 » by AtheJ415 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:38 am

Ship has sailed but adding Mikal to the KD trade remain the dumbest thing we have done aside from passing on Haliburton. We just have a bad GM. We'll go as far as the superstar players we have can take us but we have mortgaged everything for a group of pansies who can't be bothered to play hard half the time or who won't bother tossing the ball directly to the other team.

If we had Mikal we'd be contending still, and we likely get KD with the picks and other pieces without him

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