Miami Heat Offseason Thread vol. 2 : We Running it Back.. (WITH MITCHELL!)

[batterybro42]

I would ship Jimmy out if we got something in return like Amen Thompson, Steven Adams, pick 3, 27 and 29 firsts from Houston

I have long looked at the 2026 off-season as a similar market as the 2010 one.

A move like that can give you a core of Bam, Niko, Jamie, Thompson, along with picks picks 3 and 15 at 85 million ish in cap holds against a cap that could float between 160-185 million that summer. If Herro, Duncan, or Terry can fetch any additional assets that would be gravy.

This puts you in a place to potentially add 2 stars alongside that core with future assets to work with. This is how you do a proper reset. Bam will be 28 that summer right in the thick of his prime.

I also don’t think that roster would be bad at all in the meantime. Not sure about post season success but I’d feel confident we’d still be in the mix. It’s a soft rebuild. If we can’t add another star alongside Jimmy with the assets we have, this is the way. Might hurt a little but pick 3 and watching some of these young guys really develop would be fun.

[Flash4thewin]

This Bridges trade is another stark reminder of just how comical it is to think the Heat have any chance at acquiring Donovan Mitchell or Trae Young.

No it’s not.

It's one of those cold hard reality checks. We just dont have that type of draft capital and thats the going rate.

[Wiltside]

I would ship Jimmy out if we got something in return like Amen Thompson, Steven Adams, pick 3, 27 and 29 firsts from Houston

I have long looked at the 2026 off-season as a similar market as the 2010 one.

A move like that can give you a core of Bam, Niko, Jamie, Thompson, along with picks picks 3 and 15 at 85 million ish in cap holds against a cap that could float between 160-185 million that summer. If Herro, Duncan, or Terry can fetch any additional assets that would be gravy.

This puts you in a place to potentially add 2 stars alongside that core with future assets to work with. This is how you do a proper reset. Bam will be 28 that summer right in the thick of his prime.

I also don’t think that roster would be bad at all in the meantime. Not sure about post season success but I’d feel confident we’d still be in the mix. It’s a soft rebuild. If we can’t add another star alongside Jimmy with the assets we have, this is the way. Might hurt a little but pick 3 and watching some of these young guys really develop would be fun.

Agree with this take. Resets the decks on our cap space, and allows us to look at other deals to build out the roster better.

Rozier / Castle (?)
Herro / Robinson
Jaquez / Thompson
Jovic / Highsmith
Adebayo / Adams

I'd miss Jimmy like hell, but it might be the most prudent thing for the franchise.

[Rapaz]

Notice the Nets didnt go crying to the league office because Bridges wanted to play with his buddies. No moleskin journal or hostage situation, didn’t ask for the Knicks best or second best player. But they still milked them for a great deal.

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Fuxking comical

Hugs and kisses.

[jaseda510]

Notice the Nets didnt go crying to the league office because Bridges wanted to play with his buddies. No moleskin journal or hostage situation, didn’t ask for the Knicks best or second best player. But they still milked them for a great deal.

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Fuxking comical

Hugs and kisses.

Changing your character just to reply on a post. I applaud the commitment

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Send Herro to the nets for 2 1sts

Now why would the nets do this? They got their 2025 pick back. They’re clearing tanking for Flagg

Herro would be an elite tank commander

[batterybro42]

I'm definitely ready to start the re-tool with a younger roster with pieces at the top that actually fit together. The hard reality that some on here refuse to acknowledge is that the supporting cast around Butler-Bam has been adequate enough. The clunky fit of having your two stars being non-shooters and desperately trying to compensate for that by relying on role players to hit big shots every game has been their biggest obstacle.

It won't be easy to part with Butler, but the time has arrived to cash in while you can with draft assets the Heat can use as lotto tickets or to trade for a younger star.

Yep this is a real thing. Our deep playoff runs in this era have all been fueled by (1)Jimmy going pyscho and (2) players hitting above their averages. It wasnt a two man tandem dragging bums.

We don’t really give Spo credit. I watched what he did with some of the horrific rosters we had before Jimmy too, he was working magic. Go back and look at those teams, just absolutely horrible. Making guys like Rodney Mcgruder, Justice Winslow, Tyler Johnson, Dion Waiters, and Hassan Whiteside look like dudes. What have any of those players done after leaving Miami?

Spo is at his best to me when he has guys who are willing to engage in his system. I personally think he can develop young players too given the opportunity to do so (he really hasn’t had the chance) but look at what he’s done with mid round picks like Bam, Herro, and Jamie. 2nd round guys like Niko, undrafted guys like Duncan, Gabe, and Strus. We have a Coach that if we go young has the ability to make that work.

If you want to see how Heat ball really works, watch our summer league teams play. There is a system of ball that we play here. Letting some guys grow in that could be special. If you can get guys on Rookie deals now that can be developed and return value even on par with some of our recent mid round picks you could have something really special brewing.

Instead of trusting Riley and this front office to make some splashy moves I really wish would just let the best Coach in the game build out a team and develop it. He has shown time and time again that given young talent he will maximize it and develop it.

All the great teams in the league right now were essentially constructed that way, and I would think we would have an advantage there.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

This Bridges trade is another stark reminder of just how comical it is to think the Heat have any chance at acquiring Donovan Mitchell or Trae Young.

No it’s not.

It's one of those cold hard reality checks. We just dont have that type of draft capital and thats the going rate.

Neither of those guys are getting traded for 5 1sts

[balla345]

Imagine if we actually run it back again

[Rapaz]

Changing your character just to reply on a post. I applaud the commitment

Best time of the year.

Soon Cubano will start frying his nuggets, wAtchOut will make an appearance, and I'll chitpost us through the summer and into October.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Changing your character just to reply on a post. I applaud the commitment

Best time of the year.

Soon Cubano will start frying his nuggets, wAtchOut will make an appearance, and I'll chitpost us through the summer and into October.

And The Fraudfather will be sleeping through it all

[marson]

I would ship Jimmy out if we got something in return like Amen Thompson, Steven Adams, pick 3, 27 and 29 firsts from Houston

I have long looked at the 2026 off-season as a similar market as the 2010 one.

A move like that can give you a core of Bam, Niko, Jamie, Thompson, along with picks picks 3 and 15 at 85 million ish in cap holds against a cap that could float between 160-185 million that summer. If Herro, Duncan, or Terry can fetch any additional assets that would be gravy.

This puts you in a place to potentially add 2 stars alongside that core with future assets to work with. This is how you do a proper reset. Bam will be 28 that summer right in the thick of his prime.

I also don’t think that roster would be bad at all in the meantime. Not sure about post season success but I’d feel confident we’d still be in the mix. It’s a soft rebuild. If we can’t add another star alongside Jimmy with the assets we have, this is the way. Might hurt a little but pick 3 and watching some of these young guys really develop would be fun.

Agree with this take. Resets the decks on our cap space, and allows us to look at other deals to build out the roster better.

Rozier / Castle (?)
Herro / Robinson
Jaquez / Thompson
Jovic / Highsmith
Adebayo / Adams

I'd miss Jimmy like hell, but it might be the most prudent thing for the franchise.

A bit out of context, but every time I see Rozier and Herro backcourt I cringe. These 2 don't fit at all.

[wadenation305]

I'm definitely ready to start the re-tool with a younger roster with pieces at the top that actually fit together. The hard reality that some on here refuse to acknowledge is that the supporting cast around Butler-Bam has been adequate enough. The clunky fit of having your two stars being non-shooters and desperately trying to compensate for that by relying on role players to hit big shots every game has been their biggest obstacle.

It won't be easy to part with Butler, but the time has arrived to cash in while you can with draft assets the Heat can use as lotto tickets or to trade for a younger star.

Yep this is a real thing. Our deep playoff runs in this era have all been fueled by (1)Jimmy going pyscho and (2) players hitting above their averages. It wasnt a two man tandem dragging bums.

We don’t really give Spo credit. I watched what he did with some of the horrific rosters we had before Jimmy too, he was working magic. Go back and look at those teams, just absolutely horrible. Making guys like Rodney Mcgruder, Justice Winslow, Tyler Johnson, Dion Waiters, and Hassan Whiteside look like dudes. What have any of those players done after leaving Miami?

Spo is at his best to me when he has guys who are willing to engage in his system. I personally think he can develop young players too given the opportunity to do so (he really hasn’t had the chance) but look at what he’s done with mid round picks like Bam, Herro, and Jamie. 2nd round guys like Niko, undrafted guys like Duncan, Gabe, and Strus. We have a Coach that if we go young has the ability to make that work.

If you want to see how Heat ball really works, watch our summer league teams play. There is a system of ball that we play here. Letting some guys grow in that could be special. If you can get guys on Rookie deals now that can be developed and return value even on par with some of our recent mid round picks you could have something really special brewing.


Instead of trusting Riley and this front office to make some splashy moves I really wish would just let the best Coach in the game build out a team and develop it. He has shown time and time again that given young talent he will maximize it and develop it.

All the great teams in the league right now were essentially constructed that way, and I would think we would have an advantage there.

Spo has always been a magician on Defense, the problem is that he's a brick on the Offensive side. If we had elite shooters it wouldn't matter as much, but we don't so it stands out more. The only other gripe is that he is a hard head and will not change what is clearly not working until he is forced to (Ex. Bench Bibby, Play Niko, PointWinny, etc).

[MorbidHEAT]

Seems like a guy who would be good in Miami (especially at the minimum) is being talked about heading to Phoenix.

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If we're going the retread pg route for depth I think I'd rather have Wall, especially if the theme of the offseason is "making things easy" for Bam.

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He would have had a better role with us than with the Clippers. Homie screwed himself.

[Wiltside]

I would ship Jimmy out if we got something in return like Amen Thompson, Steven Adams, pick 3, 27 and 29 firsts from Houston

I have long looked at the 2026 off-season as a similar market as the 2010 one.

A move like that can give you a core of Bam, Niko, Jamie, Thompson, along with picks picks 3 and 15 at 85 million ish in cap holds against a cap that could float between 160-185 million that summer. If Herro, Duncan, or Terry can fetch any additional assets that would be gravy.

This puts you in a place to potentially add 2 stars alongside that core with future assets to work with. This is how you do a proper reset. Bam will be 28 that summer right in the thick of his prime.

I also don’t think that roster would be bad at all in the meantime. Not sure about post season success but I’d feel confident we’d still be in the mix. It’s a soft rebuild. If we can’t add another star alongside Jimmy with the assets we have, this is the way. Might hurt a little but pick 3 and watching some of these young guys really develop would be fun.

Agree with this take. Resets the decks on our cap space, and allows us to look at other deals to build out the roster better.

Rozier / Castle (?)
Herro / Robinson
Jaquez / Thompson
Jovic / Highsmith
Adebayo / Adams

I'd miss Jimmy like hell, but it might be the most prudent thing for the franchise.

A bit out of context, but every time I see Rozier and Herro backcourt I cringe. These 2 don't fit at all.

I agree, and it's not a medium to long term solution, but until Castle would be up to speed (e.g. midseason) it would make sense to persevere with it. Even when rebuilding, we aren't in the habit of intentionally losing games. We play to win.

[Wiltside]

Changing your character just to reply on a post. I applaud the commitment

Best time of the year.

Soon Cubano will start frying his nuggets, wAtchOut will make an appearance, and I'll chitpost us through the summer and into October.

Oh chit we lost Mama Gayle and gained Cro Jonin aka Ronin?

[BFRESH44]

5 unprotected picks for Mikal Bridges is absurd.

If the Heat front office has reservations about giving Jimmy the extension, then they need to take advantage of any silly team willing to go there for him for sure.

[wadenation305]

5 unprotected picks for Mikal Bridges is absurd.

If the Heat front office has reservations about giving Jimmy the extension, then they need to take advantage of any silly team willing to go there for him for sure.

As soon as it's us the convo will turn into "Jimmy is only worth a used stick of gum and a stale bag of chips

[oreon]

I would ship Jimmy out if we got something in return like Amen Thompson, Steven Adams, pick 3, 27 and 29 firsts from Houston

I have long looked at the 2026 off-season as a similar market as the 2010 one.

A move like that can give you a core of Bam, Niko, Jamie, Thompson, along with picks picks 3 and 15 at 85 million ish in cap holds against a cap that could float between 160-185 million that summer. If Herro, Duncan, or Terry can fetch any additional assets that would be gravy.

This puts you in a place to potentially add 2 stars alongside that core with future assets to work with. This is how you do a proper reset. Bam will be 28 that summer right in the thick of his prime.

I also don’t think that roster would be bad at all in the meantime. Not sure about post season success but I’d feel confident we’d still be in the mix. It’s a soft rebuild. If we can’t add another star alongside Jimmy with the assets we have, this is the way. Might hurt a little but pick 3 and watching some of these young guys really develop would be fun.

Agree with this take. Resets the decks on our cap space, and allows us to look at other deals to build out the roster better.

Rozier / Castle (?)
Herro / Robinson
Jaquez / Thompson
Jovic / Highsmith
Adebayo / Adams

I'd miss Jimmy like hell, but it might be the most prudent thing for the franchise.

If you move Butler, don't half ass the rebuild. Move Bam, Herro and Rozier. Otherwise you end up exactly where you are right now. You'll never be bad enough to draft that franchise player that you need to build around. So you are stuck hoping a MVP level player becomes available on the market which rarely happens. Otherwise just keep Butler and ride the next 3 years out. When his contract is up, rebuild then.

[batterybro42]

I would ship Jimmy out if we got something in return like Amen Thompson, Steven Adams, pick 3, 27 and 29 firsts from Houston

I have long looked at the 2026 off-season as a similar market as the 2010 one.

A move like that can give you a core of Bam, Niko, Jamie, Thompson, along with picks picks 3 and 15 at 85 million ish in cap holds against a cap that could float between 160-185 million that summer. If Herro, Duncan, or Terry can fetch any additional assets that would be gravy.

This puts you in a place to potentially add 2 stars alongside that core with future assets to work with. This is how you do a proper reset. Bam will be 28 that summer right in the thick of his prime.

I also don’t think that roster would be bad at all in the meantime. Not sure about post season success but I’d feel confident we’d still be in the mix. It’s a soft rebuild. If we can’t add another star alongside Jimmy with the assets we have, this is the way. Might hurt a little but pick 3 and watching some of these young guys really develop would be fun.

Agree with this take. Resets the decks on our cap space, and allows us to look at other deals to build out the roster better.

Rozier / Castle (?)
Herro / Robinson
Jaquez / Thompson
Jovic / Highsmith
Adebayo / Adams

I'd miss Jimmy like hell, but it might be the most prudent thing for the franchise.

1 thing I will say about all this and people may bash me for it is that Tyler Herro is pretty good when Jimmy doesn’t play. Last two years he’s averaging 22/5/5 with him not in the lineup.

Herro is only 24 years old, hasn’t even started his prime yet. I do think he’s a repressed asset that once taken off the leash and playing within a system that encourages the ball to be pushed and early shots to be taken could either recoup assets OR potentially become somebody who sticks. It’s not fashionable to say but is Herro really as bad as everybody thinks?

Love Jimmy but him and Herro are just awkward on the court together, which is why Herro functions better in a 6th man role. I do think without Jimmy you would see a dramatic increase in pace, which compliments Herro as your primary scorer. Having a training camp, preseason and regular season to build a style of ball around that might work a lot better than jamming it into a playoff series vs the NBA champions down several starters. Even still game 2 showed what it could be.

To me when you look at Bam I think you maximize him when you surround him with Shooters and play really fast. He’s a much better/bigger/athletic Draymomd in that role. Herro fits with that very well.

People want to play him at the 4 I’d rather see him as a small 5 with crazy spacing