2024 NBA Draft (euro season, college season, scouting, prospects etc)

[DusterBuster]

Are they going to do anything but just draft whoever falls to them?

It wouldn't surprise me, but I really hope they're more active than that and find deals for any or all of Brogdon, Grant, Simons and TRob.

But after so many draft days where the Blazers just sit on their hands and make picks, I have no reason to believe tomorrow and (Thursday) will be any different. I'm sure there will be a smattering of 2nd round trades and card shuffling, but don't really expect much else.

Let's say the Blazers pulled off a draft day trade with Jerami Grant involving a 2024 pick.

Would they have to wait until that pick is made before it's a completed trade?

They can have tentative deals in place with another team assuming a player they want is at the pick. If they are, the deal is agreed to. Only reason it would have to wait I believe is if the other team needs to have cap space to make the deal work... but my CBA knowledge is getting pretty ancient, so who knows.

[Case2012]

Interesting take from Lowe Post who had draft expert Jonathan Givony (and close friend of Blazers GM Mike Schmitz), he said from what he's seen, the comp he's made all year for Zach Edey is... imagine is Jonas Valančiūnas was 7'5". Said he's far and away the best screener in the draft and will be a magnet for fouls.

For all the Edey slander, Givony probably went on the longest 5min praise session of him I've heard all year. Says he's gonna be a pain in the ass for other teams to play against and his attitude is "I just want to hit people, that's what I like to do". Could really make you wonder that if the Blazers are prioritizing size... could the talk of Edey at 7 be real if they don't think he'll slide to 14? I know this board (and NBA internet / twitter as a whole) would absolutely lose it's collective s*** if the Blazers do that... but in this draft, maybe the Blazers just do it considering his unique size. He also said the Boban comps are not accurate, Edey is much more fluid and skilled, and Givony followed Boban very closely at 24/25yo.

If the Blazers REALLY want Edey, fine. I'd much rather see them package up a 2nd and #14 to move up. Taking him at #7 just isn't good value IMHO.

I feel like good value doesn't really apply to this draft. You take the player you want where you can, everypne's mocks are all over the place and there's no consensus top 5 guys. I think Sarr has a terrible attitude and is gonna be a bust. Rischarie looks like he'll be a very good spot up shooter that can defend well, Clingan is a big guy that blocks shots and sets screens, Matis could be AK47 or Jan Vesely, Ron Holland could be Jaylen Brown or Rondae Hollis Jefferson.

[DusterBuster]

Apparently ATL flew Matas out last night - wouldnt be shocked if he went #1. Best talent in the draft IMO.

All I hear is skinny Darko Miličić.

Yeah, I get Euro-bust vibes with Matas as well. Not to say Bronco is wrong, it wouldn't surprise me to see almost anyone go #1 in this draft, but yeah... I'm good on Matas (saying this knowing there's just as good a chance this post will look stupid next year as it is to be right)

[DusterBuster]

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[Norm2953]

It wouldn't surprise me, but I really hope they're more active than that and find deals for any or all of Brogdon, Grant, Simons and TRob.

But after so many draft days where the Blazers just sit on their hands and make picks, I have no reason to believe tomorrow and (Thursday) will be any different. I'm sure there will be a smattering of 2nd round trades and card shuffling, but don't really expect much else.

Let's say the Blazers pulled off a draft day trade with Jerami Grant involving a 2024 pick.

Would they have to wait until that pick is made before it's a completed trade?

They can have tentative deals in place with another team assuming a player they want is at the pick. If they are, the deal is agreed to. Only reason it would have to wait I believe is if the other team needs to have cap space to make the deal work... but my CBA knowledge is getting pretty ancient, so who knows.

They used to have 5 minutes for each pick but with the draft now carried over to a second night, who knows
if they are copying the NFL and allowing more time. I've always hated the team X is drafting for team Y draft
day trades

[Case2012]

How much tape have people watched of Ryann Dunn? He's got all first team defense vibes. It's not exciting, but would you take him 14? I really want that 3rd first for Grant...

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[GreenRiddler]

I am locked in on Dalton for #7 he is gonna be a scorcher from 3 and comps really well with Klay. I can easily see him being a 17-20ppg 3 level scoring wing as a 3rd option who doesn’t need the ball in his hands. A career 40-42% three point shooter and we don’t need him to be great on defense as I see him as a super sub to give us a great bench playing along side Camara. Exactly what this team needs as one of the worst shooting teams. DA, Ant Scoot and Sharpe all will benefit imagine how much open looks he’ll get.

I see us trying to be competitive sooner rather than later and he is the most likely to contribute early and a starting level wing is not bad at #7.

Cody Williams is the only other wing I want if Matas is off the board at 7. He’ll be a great connective wing with upside as a creator and will be a great defender. I can see him teaming up with Shaedon for a killer wing duo.

If Clingan can get his 3 point shot he’d be my most wanted at 7 back stop defender who would make defense easier for everyone. I think he could play alongside DA who I view as more a LMA type of big PF. He has amazing measurements not seen since Gobert but he’d have to improve conditioning.

If we get one of those 3 or someone falls like Matas I’d love to get that.



For pick 14 I like Saluan as a raw prospect boom or bust. Ware as a cheap a big depth or Holland if he falls that low proving the nah sayers wrong. Edey here would also be nice if we miss out on Clingan.

If we can get a 3rd pick like the lakers one for Grant I’d love the shooter out of Miami Keyshawn George or Ryan Dunn.

[Norm2953]

In reading other team's boards, there is talk of DeSilva will be Portland's pick at 14

[DusterBuster]

In reading other team's boards, there is talk of DeSilva will be Portland's pick at 14

I won't believe anything til I see it tomorrow.

I feel like I've probably talked myself into Edey too much at this point and I'll be let down when they don't end up with him. He fills the Ha sized hole in my heart I've had for the last 20 years.

[Walton1one]

So night before draft how does everyone see the top 6 going?

Call your shot

1) ATL Sarr - I think drama over Sarr’s desire to play there is driven by his agent, they take the best player, as they should
2) WAS Risacher- either way Sarr\Risacher go 1/2
3) HOU Sheppard - I don’t think any team is willing to pay the freight to jump up to #3
4) SA Castle - he won’t be there at #8, wings (Salaun) likely will be
5) DET Williams - I think new mgmt changes the groupthink (Buzelis) around this pick
6) CHA Knecht, fits nicely with Lamelo & Miller

Leaving POR to choose between: Clingan & Buzelis


7) POR selects: Clingan - ESPN mock has been pretty steady on this outcome for awhile and their history is pretty accurate. I think all of the noise about Clingan at # 1,3,4,5,6 is teams trolling for value\assets worth trading down for and none of them are willing to sell their pick cheaply

[Case2012]

I think that's pretty accurate. Clingan is the one guy i absolutely do not want so they'll take him. This franchise does nothing but kick me in the balls so I would go so far as to say they will trade up with Houston to do it. Collins all over again. Edey will go to Memphis or SA and form a new twin towers with Wemby and dominate the next 1o years.

[DaVoiceMaster]

In reading other team's boards, there is talk of DeSilva will be Portland's pick at 14

I won't believe anything til I see it tomorrow.

I feel like I've probably talked myself into Edey too much at this point and I'll be let down when they don't end up with him. He fills the Ha sized hole in my heart I've had for the last 20 years.

Ha knows...

[DusterBuster]

So night before draft how does everyone see the top 6 going?

Call your shot

1) ATL Sarr - I think drama over Sarr’s desire to play there is driven by his agent, they take the best player, as they should
2) WAS Risacher- either way Sarr\Risacher go 1/2
3) HOU Sheppard - I don’t think any team is willing to pay the freight to jump up to #3
4) SA Castle - he won’t be there at #8, wings (Salaun) likely will be
5) DET Williams - I think new mgmt changes the groupthink (Buzelis) around this pick
6) CHA Knecht, fits nicely with Lamelo & Miller

Leaving POR to choose between: Clingan & Buzelis


7) POR selects: Clingan - ESPN mock has been pretty steady on this outcome for awhile and their history is pretty accurate. I think all of the noise about Clingan at # 1,3,4,5,6 is teams trolling for value\assets worth trading down for and none of them are willing to sell their pick cheaply

Honestly kind of a complete shot in the dark right now, but here I go (just going to assume the Top 7 just stays as is, no trades)...

1) ATL - Risacher
I don't think the Sarr stuff is smoke. I also think the Hawks may genuinely just not be interested in him, some real questions starting to come out about his motor and worries he could be another Wiseman. Lots of potential but not much of a motor.
2) WAS - Sarr
Washington won't overthink it and take the player who most drafts have had #1 for awhile, even with the questions.
3) HOU - Sheppard
Think they'll see him as a guy who can pick up the mantel from FVV.
4) SAS - Matas
Matas could be a great pairing with Wemby in the frontcourt. I think they struggle here between Matas and Clingan, but ultimately go with the international player who can stretch the floor for Wemby.
5) DET - Castle
Pistons just need talent, don't think they'll worry about fit even though they have Cade and a Thompson twin already. Might give them some leverage to move off Cade at the deadline.
6) CHA - Clingan
If the draft shakes this way, can't see Clingan getting past Charlotte. They have Mark Williams who looks nice, but so far hasn't shown he can stay super healthy... and having 2 legit 7 footers is not something any team should turn down. If Williams has another injured year, Clingan can step in or maybe even just take the starting spot from the jump.

So at 7, the Blazers are looking at...

Knecht, Salaun, Williams, Edey (rising), or Holland (falling).

Word is Holland in particular is really falling on a lot of teams boards, he could probably be there at 14, so don't see him as a legit target. Edey would be a stretch... but he's rising enough that he likely won't be there at 14, so between that, some rumblings the Blazers were really impressed by his workout and how glowing Giovny recently spoke of him (along with his close connection to the Blazers FO), let's just say while I would be surprised by Edey at 7, I wouldn't be just eating my hat shocked.

Realistically, I think they probably pick between Knecht, Salaun, and Williams. I would say it's kind of a tossup...

I personally would take Salaun out of that group. Biggest upside guy if you ask me and has the most NBA ready body that could even get bigger. Williams would be my second option here, don't think he has the upside of quite Salaun, but close to it - just question his shooting touch a bit.

What I think the Blazers would do in that situation is draft Knecht. They want a culture setter, he's the most NBA ready guy in the draft and potentially a early ROY candidate on a team that would give him shots. He's got the attitude you want to see from an old rookie who just wants to kick ass and take names and he theoretically should help the outside shooting issues. I wouldn't be mad at it, but he's also not my first choice because I think he's probably the lowest ceiling of the 3.

[DusterBuster]

I think that's pretty accurate. Clingan is the one guy i absolutely do not want so they'll take him. This franchise does nothing but kick me in the balls so I would go so far as to say they will trade up with Houston to do it. Collins all over again. Edey will go to Memphis or SA and form a new twin towers with Wemby and dominate the next 1o years.

As I mention in my mock top 6, I don't think Clingan, even if he falls, gets past Charlotte. I would honestly be more shocked to see Clingan slip to 7 than I would be to see the Blazers stretch to take Edey at 7.

[Case2012]

I hope you're right but I'm convinced we draft Clingan.

Listening to the Simmons podcast thinking about how Dillingham is gonna average 25-30 points in his prime and we didn't take him because of Scoot. Like, I'm not in love with any of the wings, except Castle and Knecht but I don't think they're gonna be there at 14 and Dillingham could be there. It's so blasphemous to even suggest a small pg but man, he is so much better than Scoot, like elite scorer, shot creator, finisher, shot over %44 from 3... Ugh idk man.

[JRoy]

I hope you're right but I'm convinced we draft Clingan.

Listening to the Simmons podcast thinking about how Dillingham is gonna average 25-30 points in his prime and we didn't take him because of Scoot. Like, I'm not in love with any of the wings, except Castle and Knecht but I don't think they're gonna be there at 14 and Dillingham could be there. It's so blasphemous to even suggest a small pg but man, he is so much better than Scoot, like elite scorer, shot creator, finisher, shot over %44 from 3... Ugh idk man.

He is tiny.

Tiny.

[DusterBuster]

I hope you're right but I'm convinced we draft Clingan.

Listening to the Simmons podcast thinking about how Dillingham is gonna average 25-30 points in his prime and we didn't take him because of Scoot. Like, I'm not in love with any of the wings, except Castle and Knecht but I don't think they're gonna be there at 14 and Dillingham could be there. It's so blasphemous to even suggest a small pg but man, he is so much better than Scoot, like elite scorer, shot creator, finisher, shot over %44 from 3... Ugh idk man.

He is tiny.

Tiny.

I also don't want the Blazers best player to be a PG again. I want their best player to be a forward for the love of god.

[Walton1one]

Let’s see some more prognostications!

Honestly this draft has the potential to be wild, but some? of these picks are bound to be right

I agree that if Clingan is off the table and Knecht is there, POR takes him, if both are gone then my guess would be Salaun?

If all 3 are gone? Then a choice b/t Williams\Buzelis (if he is there)\Holland or Edey, I guess?

[JRoy]

Let’s see some more prognostications!

Honestly this draft has the potential to be wild, but some? of these picks are bound to be right

I agree that if Clingan is off the table and Knecht is there, POR takes him, if both are gone then my guess would be Salaun?

If all 3 are gone? Then a choice b/t Williams\Buzelis (if he is there)\Holland or Edey, I guess?

What I hope will happen?

Keep it simple;
7-Edey
14-De Silva
34-Dunn

Trade 40 for a SRP in another draft.

[zzaj]

So night before draft how does everyone see the top 6 going?

Call your shot

1) ATL Sarr - I think drama over Sarr’s desire to play there is driven by his agent, they take the best player, as they should
2) WAS Risacher- either way Sarr\Risacher go 1/2
3) HOU Sheppard - I don’t think any team is willing to pay the freight to jump up to #3
4) SA Castle - he won’t be there at #8, wings (Salaun) likely will be
5) DET Williams - I think new mgmt changes the groupthink (Buzelis) around this pick
6) CHA Knecht, fits nicely with Lamelo & Miller

Leaving POR to choose between: Clingan & Buzelis


7) POR selects: Clingan - ESPN mock has been pretty steady on this outcome for awhile and their history is pretty accurate. I think all of the noise about Clingan at # 1,3,4,5,6 is teams trolling for value\assets worth trading down for and none of them are willing to sell their pick cheaply

Calling shots--based on current intel and considering positional fit and team needs, this is my 1st round Mock:

1)--ATL, Risacher
2)--WAS, Sarr
3)--HOU, Sheppard
4)--SAS, Castle
5)--DET, Knecht
6)--CHA, Carter
7)--POR, Clingan
8)--SAS, Dillingham
9)--MEM, Edey
10)--UTA, Topic
11)--CHI, Williams
12)--OKC, Da Silva
13)--SAC, Salaun
14)--POR, Buzelis
15)--MIA, Carrington
16)--PHI, George
17)--LAL, McCain
18)--ORL, Walter
19)--TOR, Holland
20)--CLE, Tyson
21)--NOP, Holmes
22)--PHX, Kolek
23)--MIL, Filipowski
24)--NYK, Dunn
25)--NYK, Scheierman
26)--WAS, Collier
27)--MIN, Mitchell
28)--DEN, Jones
29)--UTA, Johnson
30)--BOS, Ware