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Re: Free Agency 

Post#841 » by keepitrealhomes » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:36 am

NYPiston wrote:I like Bridges well enough but that's quite a haul of unprotected 1sts for a guy who is really a very high level role player. It's a good add for the Knicks but I think the Nets did really well. I wonder how OG fits now. Hart, DiVincenzo, OG, Bridges, Randle. It's quite crowded at the 2-4, I'll be interested to see how they sort that out.

If Randle buys into coming off the bench (along with hart/divincenzo,) then that can be a pretty legitimate contender.
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Post#842 » by Pharaoh » Wed Jun 26, 2024 6:37 am

keepitrealhomes wrote:
NYPiston wrote:I like Bridges well enough but that's quite a haul of unprotected 1sts for a guy who is really a very high level role player. It's a good add for the Knicks but I think the Nets did really well. I wonder how OG fits now. Hart, DiVincenzo, OG, Bridges, Randle. It's quite crowded at the 2-4, I'll be interested to see how they sort that out.

If Randle buys into coming off the bench (along with hart/divincenzo,) then that can be a pretty legitimate contender.
Why would Randle come off the bench?

Brunson, Bridges, OG, Randle, Hartenstein

With McBride, DDV, Hart and Robinson off the bench.

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Re: Free Agency 

Post#843 » by keepitrealhomes » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:19 am

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NYPiston wrote:I like Bridges well enough but that's quite a haul of unprotected 1sts for a guy who is really a very high level role player. It's a good add for the Knicks but I think the Nets did really well. I wonder how OG fits now. Hart, DiVincenzo, OG, Bridges, Randle. It's quite crowded at the 2-4, I'll be interested to see how they sort that out.

If Randle buys into coming off the bench (along with hart/divincenzo,) then that can be a pretty legitimate contender.
Why would Randle come off the bench?

Brunson, Bridges, OG, Randle, Hartenstein

With McBride, DDV, Hart and Robinson off the bench.

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Because hart/DDV fit better with that group. Randle can neither space the court nor play defense.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#844 » by DetroitSho » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:51 am

bstein14 wrote:Sat June 29th: Club Option deadline for Evan Fournier at $19m, Metu at Min deadline, Umude at Min deadline
Sat June 29th: Qualifying offer needs to be given to any RFAs we want to keep restricted (Flynn, Font, Wiseman, or Rhoden)
Sun June 30th: Troy Brown Jr's $4m become's fully guaranteed if not waived
Sunday, June 30 at 3 p.m. = Start of Free Agency

My assumption is that we are likely to clear house on all FAs besides Font.
Bruh I forgot Fournier was even on this roster.

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Post#846 » by MotownMadness » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:06 pm

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Post#847 » by Mr Peanut » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:10 pm

If Weaver were still here I could've seen us renouncing the QO but still signing him to a cheap short-term deal. I suspect Langdon will just move on completely though.

To summarize, Luke Kennard and four high second round picks for what became a season and a half of one of the worst rotation centers in the league. A lesson in asset (mis)management.
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Post#848 » by MotownMadness » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:14 pm

Mr Peanut wrote:If Weaver were still here I could've seen us renouncing the QO but still signing him to a cheap short-term deal. I suspect Langdon will just move on completely though.

To summarize, Luke Kennard and four high second round picks for what became a season and a half of one of the worst rotation centers in the league. A lesson in asset (mis)management.

Wouldn't mind getting Kennard back, Dude is shooting 45% from 3 on high volume.

Dont the Grizz need to dump him for cap reasons?
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Post#849 » by Mr Peanut » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:22 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
Mr Peanut wrote:If Weaver were still here I could've seen us renouncing the QO but still signing him to a cheap short-term deal. I suspect Langdon will just move on completely though.

To summarize, Luke Kennard and four high second round picks for what became a season and a half of one of the worst rotation centers in the league. A lesson in asset (mis)management.

Wouldn't mind getting Kennard back, Dude is shooting 45% from 3 on high volume.

Dont the Grizz need to dump him for cap reasons?


He has a team option for 14.8M this upcoming season, so if they really needed to shed salary they'd just cut him, but otherwise they might pick up the option and try and trade for some assets.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#850 » by buzzkilloton » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:27 pm

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Mr Peanut wrote:If Weaver were still here I could've seen us renouncing the QO but still signing him to a cheap short-term deal. I suspect Langdon will just move on completely though.

To summarize, Luke Kennard and four high second round picks for what became a season and a half of one of the worst rotation centers in the league. A lesson in asset (mis)management.

Wouldn't mind getting Kennard back, Dude is shooting 45% from 3 on high volume.

Dont the Grizz need to dump him for cap reasons?


Luke is one of the best shooters in the game. Problem with him has been the knees. If the price was right and our medical staff thought he will provide enough minutes I'd take him if he was willing.

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Re: Free Agency 

Post#851 » by MotownMadness » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:35 pm

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Mr Peanut wrote:If Weaver were still here I could've seen us renouncing the QO but still signing him to a cheap short-term deal. I suspect Langdon will just move on completely though.

To summarize, Luke Kennard and four high second round picks for what became a season and a half of one of the worst rotation centers in the league. A lesson in asset (mis)management.

Wouldn't mind getting Kennard back, Dude is shooting 45% from 3 on high volume.

Dont the Grizz need to dump him for cap reasons?


Luke is one of the best shooters in the game. Problem with him has been the knees. If the price was right and our medical staff thought he will provide enough minutes I'd take him if he was willing.

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Yeah just 39 games played again last year, He's definitely not dependable.

Look at our guy Fontecchio though
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Post#852 » by zeebneeb » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:37 pm

Kennard is a shooters, shooter.

Cade
Kennard
Grimes
Tek
Stewart

Thats a shooters lineup!

Yeah, I know, defensive problems galore.
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Post#853 » by Kalamazoo317 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:05 pm

Grimes/Tek/Stew isn't that bad defensively, but that front court is pretty small, yeah, and the backcourt isn't bringing much on defense.

Feels like Knicks have another move to make or OG is going to be hard for them to sign. Seems like one where it'd be irresponsible for us to not at least make OG a big money offer.
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Post#854 » by 7r5ur » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:13 pm

zeebneeb wrote:Kennard is a shooters, shooter.

Cade
Kennard
Grimes
Tek
Stewart

Thats a shooters lineup!

Yeah, I know, defensive problems galore.

Perfect example of why you can't bring in anyone else that can't defend. The Kennard/Cade combo defensively ruins what is otherwise a decent lineup. I'd rather have a solid shooter that can play defense than an elite shooter that can't defend a pylon. Hell, I'd rather just throw Ausar in there for Kennard and deal with 1 guy that can't shoot than 2 guys who are amongst the worst defenders in the league.

No more turnstile defense vets. No more non-spacing bigs.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#855 » by theBigLip » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:57 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:Grimes/Tek/Stew isn't that bad defensively, but that front court is pretty small, yeah, and the backcourt isn't bringing much on defense.

Feels like Knicks have another move to make or OG is going to be hard for them to sign. Seems like one where it'd be irresponsible for us to not at least make OG a big money offer.


New York is all in. They will Max OG if they have to.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#856 » by theBigLip » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:00 pm

Mr Peanut wrote:If Weaver were still here I could've seen us renouncing the QO but still signing him to a cheap short-term deal. I suspect Langdon will just move on completely though.


I’m in the minority on this for sure, but I’d bring him back as a 3rd big if it’s near min. He did improve last year and he’s one of the most athletic guys in the league for his size.
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Post#857 » by Snakebites » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:05 pm

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Kalamazoo317 wrote:Grimes/Tek/Stew isn't that bad defensively, but that front court is pretty small, yeah, and the backcourt isn't bringing much on defense.

Feels like Knicks have another move to make or OG is going to be hard for them to sign. Seems like one where it'd be irresponsible for us to not at least make OG a big money offer.


New York is all in. They will Max OG if they have to.

Yeah, I was in the “hey let’s at least try on OG” camp, and I’d still love for us to be able to make a run, but frankly there’s no way the Knicks don’t max him now.

And with PG wanting to stay out west we’d be behind the Magic and Sixers at the very least for a guy like OG.

Things aren’t looking good free agency-wise for us to be perfectly blunt. It’s why you saw Gores (clueless) talk about free agency but Langdon (knows what’s up) talking about trades.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#858 » by theBigLip » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:12 pm

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Kalamazoo317 wrote:Grimes/Tek/Stew isn't that bad defensively, but that front court is pretty small, yeah, and the backcourt isn't bringing much on defense.

Feels like Knicks have another move to make or OG is going to be hard for them to sign. Seems like one where it'd be irresponsible for us to not at least make OG a big money offer.


New York is all in. They will Max OG if they have to.

Yeah, I was in the “hey let’s at least try on OG” camp, and I’d still love for us to be able to make a run, but frankly there’s no way the Knicks don’t max him now.

And with PG wanting to stay out west we’d be behind the Magic and Sixers at the very least for a guy like OG.

Things aren’t looking good free agency-wise for us to be perfectly blunt. It’s why you saw Gores (clueless) talk about free agency but Langdon (knows what’s up) talking about trades.


I’m w you on the long shot attempt for OG, but yeah, NY doesn’t have a choice now - they are all in.

We weren’t getting PG13 either. I just want us to get a couple of young but experienced 3&D wings - trade or FA, don’t care how.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#859 » by Snakebites » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:15 pm

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New York is all in. They will Max OG if they have to.

Yeah, I was in the “hey let’s at least try on OG” camp, and I’d still love for us to be able to make a run, but frankly there’s no way the Knicks don’t max him now.

And with PG wanting to stay out west we’d be behind the Magic and Sixers at the very least for a guy like OG.

Things aren’t looking good free agency-wise for us to be perfectly blunt. It’s why you saw Gores (clueless) talk about free agency but Langdon (knows what’s up) talking about trades.


I’m w you on the long shot attempt for OG, but yeah, NY doesn’t have a choice now - they are all in.

We weren’t getting PG13 either. I just want us to get a couple of young but experienced 3&D wings - trade or FA, don’t care how.

The impact of Paul George staying out west is indirect. If he’s not going to Orlando or Philly we have to compete with them for whatever is left. And that’s not good.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#860 » by 7r5ur » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:37 pm

Snakebites wrote:
theBigLip wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:Grimes/Tek/Stew isn't that bad defensively, but that front court is pretty small, yeah, and the backcourt isn't bringing much on defense.

Feels like Knicks have another move to make or OG is going to be hard for them to sign. Seems like one where it'd be irresponsible for us to not at least make OG a big money offer.


New York is all in. They will Max OG if they have to.

Yeah, I was in the “hey let’s at least try on OG” camp, and I’d still love for us to be able to make a run, but frankly there’s no way the Knicks don’t max him now.

And with PG wanting to stay out west we’d be behind the Magic and Sixers at the very least for a guy like OG.

Things aren’t looking good free agency-wise for us to be perfectly blunt. It’s why you saw Gores (clueless) talk about free agency but Langdon (knows what’s up) talking about trades.


The Pistons job here is to make sure the Knicks have to pay the max. Don't let them get him for a good price. Inevitably, it's going to be hard to keep their core together. Brunson's due a supermax next offseason. Bridges is due a max in 2 years. Gonna get tricky very fast.

We don't have to worry about missing out on a big name free agent, so it's our job here to hold New York's feet to the fire lol

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