OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread

[Kizz Fastfists]

I think the opt in then the 4 year extension gives him the most $. The less $ the Clips take back the bigger their trade exception is. I have a feeling they will be more valuable in the future

I believe under the new rules limiting contracts due to player age he is better off signing a 2 year deal this off-season then hitting FA again for another 3 year max deal. If he opts in he could sign a four year max as he'd turn 38 in the fourth year, but he'd be locked in based on next year's cap which will be 10%, maximum increase under the new CBA, lower than the cap in '26-'27. A two year deal would have him hit FA again when the cap takes a max jump from the new TV deal and a new deal this year would pay him more this year and next year. That is strictly talking about maximizing his money and ignoring any preference about where he wants to play.

[Kizz Fastfists]

I think the opt in then the 4 year extension gives him the most $. The less $ the Clips take back the bigger their trade exception is. I have a feeling they will be more valuable in the future

If they re-sign Harden I believe they will still end up over the 2nd apron and unable to use trade exceptions. The Clippers only play is to put the best team possible on the court. Having no control over their draft picks make it difficult for them to justify planning beyond assembling the best team possible in the off-season and dealing with the 2nd apron restrictions. What makes the most sense for LAC is to give PG13 whatever contract he wants. If they lose PG13 they take a significant drop off with no ability to replace the talent they'll be losing.

[Balkman32]

I think the opt in then the 4 year extension gives him the most $. The less $ the Clips take back the bigger their trade exception is. I have a feeling they will be more valuable in the future

I believe under the new rules limiting contracts due to player age he is better off signing a 2 year deal this off-season then hitting FA again for another 3 year max deal. If he opts in he could sign a four year max as he'd turn 38 in the fourth year, but he'd be locked in based on next year's cap which will be 10%, maximum increase under the new CBA, lower than the cap in '26-'27. A two year deal would have him hit FA again when the cap takes a max jump from the new TV deal and a new deal this year would pay him more this year and next year. That is strictly talking about maximizing his money and ignoring any preference about where he wants to play.

& that should be Presti’s pitch. Come win two titles and a new max.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Maybe y'all can help me with this. If PG13 really wants to come to OKC (I doubt it), why would we trade for him? Wouldn't we just;
- Decline TO on Lindy
- Trade Dieng for whatever pick(s)
- Trade Kenrich for whatever pick(s)

That would give us roughly $50.3m in cap space. PG13 max is confusing to me, but I think it's just under $48.0m? Help me out!

If you trade for him then his contract is $48.8M. It would require moving Dort, for space, and picks in order to get LAC to accept it. If he opts out then his max is $49.35M, which would require moving Dort and one of Dieng or Kenrich to be able to sign him.

[Kizz Fastfists]

& that should be Presti’s pitch. Come win two titles and a new max.

If Presti is going to pitch a max contract player to come win a championship it should be LeBron and part of the pitch should include buying a 2nd round pick to draft Bronny.

[Dadouv47]

I wanted Mikal but not beating 4 unprotected FRPs, a protected FRP and a swap is fine. Don't want to pay this for Lauri either. I wonder how Cam Johnson would cost though.

[Kizz Fastfists]

I wanted Mikal but not beating 4 unprotected FRPs, a protected FRP and a swap is fine. Don't want to pay this for Lauri either. I wonder how Cam Johnson would cost though.

I'd rather pay it for Lauri than Mikal, but I don't expect Presti to make a big splash.

[Dadouv47]

I wanted Mikal but not beating 4 unprotected FRPs, a protected FRP and a swap is fine. Don't want to pay this for Lauri either. I wonder how Cam Johnson would cost though.

I'd rather pay it for Lauri than Mikal, but I don't expect Presti to make a big splash.

I have too many health concerns with Lauri and he has one year less under good contract but in a vacuum he's a better fit in OKC for sure.

I don't want OKC to trade 5 FRPs and a swap for a player except for AD and Durant. I think a good PF that would cost 2-3 FRPs and signing a good back up C is more than enough.

[Mr Thunder Nick]

New York can't keep both Anunoby and Hartenstein for cap reasons. So the way is open to get one of both. I would prefer Anunoby but I think this will be very costly so Hartenstein a PF rookie and Caruso would be a nice upgrade for next season.

[Dadouv47]

I like Hartenstein in a vacuum but I don't want to pay that much for a guy that can't shoot and won't have a key role...same issue as Jarrett Allen. Chet is better at the 5 so paying a guy 20+ millions dollars to play 15-20 minutes is a bit too much. He's a good player though so I won't be pissed if Presti sign him...just hope we can use that money on a good PF.

[OKC2008]

I like Hartenstein in a vacuum but I don't want to pay that much for a guy that can't shoot and won't have a key role...same issue as Jarrett Allen. Chet is better at the 5 so paying a guy 20+ millions dollars to play 15-20 minutes is a bit too much. He's a good player though so I won't be pissed if Presti sign him...just hope we can use that money on a good PF.

100% agree

Chet is our 5… Chet at 4 means make a total revolution of the Thunder system and this wouldn’t have any sense

[Devilanche]

I like Hartenstein in a vacuum but I don't want to pay that much for a guy that can't shoot and won't have a key role...same issue as Jarrett Allen. Chet is better at the 5 so paying a guy 20+ millions dollars to play 15-20 minutes is a bit too much. He's a good player though so I won't be pissed if Presti sign him...just hope we can use that money on a good PF.

Having him would make it possible to have 5 good players on the floor at the same time in the playoff at all times.
Currently hard if Jaylin still the primary backup C.

[Dadouv47]

I like Hartenstein in a vacuum but I don't want to pay that much for a guy that can't shoot and won't have a key role...same issue as Jarrett Allen. Chet is better at the 5 so paying a guy 20+ millions dollars to play 15-20 minutes is a bit too much. He's a good player though so I won't be pissed if Presti sign him...just hope we can use that money on a good PF.

Having him would make it possible to have 5 good players on the floor at the same time in the playoff at all times.
Currently hard if Jaylin still the primary backup C.

yeah I get it but to me that's the path you follow if u fail to find a good starting PF which should be our priority number #1. I get that very good PFs are pretty rare in today's NBA and I have no clue who's available so if we can't get one, I would understand going for a big like Hartenstein. Ideally we could afford a good PF and a better back up than Jaylin.

[Devilanche]

I like Hartenstein in a vacuum but I don't want to pay that much for a guy that can't shoot and won't have a key role...same issue as Jarrett Allen. Chet is better at the 5 so paying a guy 20+ millions dollars to play 15-20 minutes is a bit too much. He's a good player though so I won't be pissed if Presti sign him...just hope we can use that money on a good PF.

Having him would make it possible to have 5 good players on the floor at the same time in the playoff at all times.
Currently hard if Jaylin still the primary backup C.

yeah I get it but to me that's the path you follow if u fail to find a good starting PF which should be our priority number #1. I get that very good PFs are pretty rare in today's NBA and I have no clue who's available so if we can't get one, I would understand going for a big like Hartenstein. Ideally we could afford a good PF and a better back up than Jaylin.

Yea I keep getting issues on who I want trade for as a better PF or even free agency.

Can’t think of a better name .
Deni price is probably through the roof now with today’s Knicks trade. That contract is super valuable.

[mr570]

I wanted Mikal but not beating 4 unprotected FRPs, a protected FRP and a swap is fine. Don't want to pay this for Lauri either. I wonder how Cam Johnson would cost though.

I'd rather pay it for Lauri than Mikal, but I don't expect Presti to make a big splash.

I can’t imagine reading the news last night and still thinking this.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Yea I keep getting issues on who I want trade for as a better PF or even free agency.

Can’t think of a better name .
Deni price is probably through the roof now with today’s Knicks trade. That contract is super valuable.

Deni was never an option. Washington has 0 reasons to trade Deni unless you are handing them a pick that they believe will be top 5 in 2025 and then they might believe they are getting a chance at a higher ceiling player. Given Deni's age, progression and contract it would be so stupid for Washington to trade him I wouldn't even accept the Bridges offer for him as there is no guarantee any of those picks would eventually lead to a better player.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Chet is our 5… Chet at 4 means make a total revolution of the Thunder system and this wouldn’t have any sense

As long as the new 5 is capable of stretching the floor the offense would stay the same. It would just get bigger and improve the weakness without sacrificing the good. If they add a more traditional center then it requires reworking the offense, but that could still end up being better overall.

[Clav]

Wendell Carter Jr is still a player I think we should be trying to roster - He would fit into our system pretty well and he is making 12M a year (it's a descending deal iirc...)

Unsure how that looks for Orlando's return, but perhaps it is doable.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Wendell Carter Jr is still a player I think we should be trying to roster - He would fit into our system pretty well and he is making 12M a year (it's a descending deal iirc...)

Unsure how that looks for Orlando's return, but perhaps it is doable.

Orlando has other big men which could make WCJ possible to acquire, but they need a PG. It would probably require a PG they like being an option at #12 or some type of a 3 way trade with Atlanta sending Murray to Orlando and OKC sending value to Atlanta with WCJ coming to OKC. The problem there is I suspect that Atlanta would rather have WCJ unless Dort is the player going to Atlanta and I don't believe Presti will trade Dort.

[Clav]

Wendell Carter Jr is still a player I think we should be trying to roster - He would fit into our system pretty well and he is making 12M a year (it's a descending deal iirc...)

Unsure how that looks for Orlando's return, but perhaps it is doable.

Orlando has other big men which could make WCJ possible to acquire, but they need a PG. It would probably require a PG they like being an option at #12 or some type of a 3 way trade with Atlanta sending Murray to Orlando and OKC sending value to Atlanta with WCJ coming to OKC. The problem there is I suspect that Atlanta would rather have WCJ unless Dort is the player going to Atlanta and I don't believe Presti will trade Dort.

Yeah, my thoughts too. It gets a bit tricky. I don't feel like Dort is being shopped unless it's as in the other thread - something for as our other poster said, PG13; or as you said, LeBron - where we maximize our capspace for a higher level upgrade.