NBA Draft 2024

[lilfishi22]

Though I understand the appeal, I’d rather not be the team to gamble on Dunn in the first round. When is the last time an offensive zero turned themselves into a playoff rotation player?

Herb Jones , Derrick Jones Jr and OG Anunoby.

And all the ones that never figured out their offense?

[Saberestar]

Though I understand the appeal, I’d rather not be the team to gamble on Dunn in the first round. When is the last time an offensive zero turned themselves into a playoff rotation player?

Herb Jones , Derrick Jones Jr and OG Anunoby.

And all the ones that never figured out their offense?

Yeah, plenty of times a young player doesn't improve in one specific area BUT like you can see it's not that weird that an athletic and defensive minded wing improves enough to be considered a solid two-way player a few years later.

OG Anunoby comparison sounds great to me.

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[sunsbg]

Hope Jones can find Dunn alternative in undrafted range like he did with Camara last year. His stats just doesn't scream 1st round material. Let someone else gamble on him, the team is in a win now mode.

[sunsbum]

Herb Jones , Derrick Jones Jr and OG Anunoby.

And all the ones that never figured out their offense?

Yeah, plenty of times a young player doesn't improve in one specific area BUT like you can see it's not that weird that an athletic and defensive minded wing improves enough to be considered a solid two-way player a few years later.

OG Anunoby comparison sounds great to me.

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we can play that game for a loooooong time. GOK could effin stat comparison you to sleep.

[lilfishi22]

Herb Jones , Derrick Jones Jr and OG Anunoby.

And all the ones that never figured out their offense?

Yeah, plenty of times a young player doesn't improve in one specific area BUT like you can see it's not that weird that an athletic and defensive minded wing improves enough to be considered a solid two-way player a few years later.

OG Anunoby comparison sounds great to me.

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It's not weird, it's just really uncommon

Anyway, at this position in the draft, no prospect is without some major flaw, which is why they are where they are. Even guys who have lottery talent end up in the late 1st round or even early 2nd because of some serious red flags. We're ultimately picking from a bucket of sour apples and hoping the one we pick happens to be a rare sweet one.

[SkyBill40]

I have a feeling we're going to end up trading down given how we're sorely lacking in owned picks. While I would love to see us get a future contributor at 22, I know how Jones is when it comes to drafting players. The fact we've had no scouts and have been relying on his evaluation is telling. Hopefully Ishbia et al don't make matters worse.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Jrue Holiday shot under 31% from 3 in college, 72.6% from the FT line. Kentavious Caldwell Pope shot under 31% from 3 his freshman year, his 2nd year he shot 37%, 65% from the line to 80% from the line, he went to the NBA and shot not that great his first 3 seasons in the league. I definitely agree though that taking Dunn could be a huge gamble.

Aaron Gordon, Avery Bradley, Dennis Rodman, Khris Middleton, DeAAron Fox, and even Scottie Pippen all didn't shoot well at all in their college years, but obviously went on to play significant roles for their teams in the NBA. Some playing key defensive (utility roles for their teams winning a championship. That's what I'm looking for to bring strong complimentary balance to the elite offensive abilities of our big three!

One of the biggest things we've been missing since the Durant trade has been Mikal's elite defensive skillset. Now Mikal is unquestionably in a different stratosphere (currently) offensively to Dunn as a two-way player. HOWEVER, Dunn likely has a much higher defensive ceiling/ outcome than even Mikal did/does. The trade-off for such an elite defensive talent is the initial offensive concerns that Dunn carries, otherwise, you're looking at a likely top 5 lotto talent! Now, because our team is loaded with offensive talent, that cumulative offensive firepower can significantly offset Dunns' offensive concerns. And again, his lockdown defensive abilities are just so elite, that it's a perfect fit with us!

[dremill24]

He might not even get drafted and his knee scares me but I dont hate this Isaiah Crawford from La Tech as a role player.

[Crives]

Back to the draft.. if we do trade down, knicks should be less likely to draft Dunn after the Mikal trade

[Fo-Real]

Back to the draft.. if we do trade down, knicks should be less likely to draft Dunn after the Mikal trade

But..... we drafting Bronny!!

[SlovenianDragon]

We should become the first team to have an A.I. front office... it cant be any worse right?

[Blonde]

Though I understand the appeal, I’d rather not be the team to gamble on Dunn in the first round. When is the last time an offensive zero turned themselves into a playoff rotation player?

Rudy Gobert.

That was difficult, I have more names if needed. Try the google machine next time broski, before asking weird questions.

It was an honest question lol, no need to come back with snark. It is interesting you pick the guy who has been played off the floor in the playoffs every year until year 11 (I kid). If Dunn was 7-1 it would be another story, but non shooting wings are a dime a dozen and very few figure it out. OG & Herb Jones are popular comparisons but they both shot it significantly better from 3 on higher volume. Both were significantly better passers. There are certainly worse prospects than Dunn, and I posted in this thread positively about him months ago. I would hope he can figure it out offensively but he just hasn’t given any evidence of that in his collegiate career.

[RaisingArizona]

We should become the first team to have an A.I. front office... it cant be any worse right?

We're 15 years too late.

[Slim Charless]

Though I understand the appeal, I’d rather not be the team to gamble on Dunn in the first round. When is the last time an offensive zero turned themselves into a playoff rotation player?

Rudy Gobert.

That was difficult, I have more names if needed. Try the google machine next time broski, before asking weird questions.

It was an honest question lol, no need to come back with snark. It is interesting you pick the guy who has been played off the floor in the playoffs every year until year 11 (I kid). If Dunn was 7-1 it would be another story, but non shooting wings are a dime a dozen and very few figure it out. OG & Herb Jones are popular comparisons but they both shot it significantly better from 3 on higher volume. Both were significantly better passers. There are certainly worse prospects than Dunn, and I posted in this thread positively about him months ago. I would hope he can figure it out offensively but he just hasn’t given any evidence of that in his collegiate career.

I think that Herb is an good comp. Dunn can learn on the job playing lights out D, then working on his shooting. Herb followed that path as he was pretty awful IMO scoring his 1st few years before finally breaking out this season. Bonus being that Dunn is younger than Herb was his rookie year so that helps alot.

[RaisingArizona]

Didn't he shoot 20% from the college line? Bro makes Okogie look like Stephen Curry. I say no

[Slim Charless]

Didn't he shoot 20% from the college line? Bro makes Okogie look like Stephen Curry. I say no

But his defense makes Okogie (no slouch) look like Stephen Curry too.

[Saberestar]

Though I understand the appeal, I’d rather not be the team to gamble on Dunn in the first round. When is the last time an offensive zero turned themselves into a playoff rotation player?

Rudy Gobert.

That was difficult, I have more names if needed. Try the google machine next time broski, before asking weird questions.

It was an honest question lol, no need to come back with snark. It is interesting you pick the guy who has been played off the floor in the playoffs every year until year 11 (I kid). If Dunn was 7-1 it would be another story, but non shooting wings are a dime a dozen and very few figure it out. OG & Herb Jones are popular comparisons but they both shot it significantly better from 3 on higher volume. Both were significantly better passers. There are certainly worse prospects than Dunn, and I posted in this thread positively about him months ago. I would hope he can figure it out offensively but he just hasn’t given any evidence of that in his collegiate career.

OG Anunoby shot a TERRIBLE 48% and 56% from the FT line in his 2 seasons at Indiana. And he was a much worse rebounder and shot blocker than Dunn.

I get that Anunoby was better than Dunn in a couple of things, but the overall comparison is pretty fair because of their similar measurements and high motor/great defender at the wing stuff.

[Fo-Real]

Yall need to get on this Bronny train!!! LEAN INTO IT, ITLL STING LESS!!!

[bwgood77]

Though I understand the appeal, I’d rather not be the team to gamble on Dunn in the first round. When is the last time an offensive zero turned themselves into a playoff rotation player?

Dort, but it took years, and he even shot better in college, 30.5% 3 pt and 70% FT, while Dunn is 20% 3pt and 53% FT shooter. I think people are far too optimistic he will suddenly become a good shooter with coaching. It happens sometimes, but not that often when they are that bad at shooting in college, and FT% is a good indicator. How can a guy wanting to make the pros be THAT bad at free throws? Especially a non center.

[bwgood77]

Though I understand the appeal, I’d rather not be the team to gamble on Dunn in the first round. When is the last time an offensive zero turned themselves into a playoff rotation player?

Dort, but it took years, and he even shot better in college, 30.5% 3 pt and 70% FT, while Dunn is 20% 3pt and 53% FT shooter. I think people are far too optimistic he will suddenly become a good shooter with coaching. It happens sometimes, but not that often when they are that bad at shooting in college, and FT% is a good indicator. How can a guy wanting to make the pros be THAT bad at free throws? Especially a non center.