Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Darvin Returns

[Turk Nowitzki]

The not being able to aggregate players in a trade thing is a completely ridiculous rule btw. **** you CJ McCollum.

[ReasonablySober]

I also don't think Houston gives up all that for Middleton, so again, we're at the crossroads of most realistic trades end with us being worse off by trading him. Like, I'd trade Khris for Terrence Mann, Norm Powell, and some 2nd's before I'd do some of these dog-water trades where we're getting nothing but question marks back (picks, young prospects who haven't proved enough). Churros is right, the whole point of breaking up Middleton's $30 million is that you need to get at least one proven starter-ish dude back, with an additional asset. Not just tradeable assets.

On the other hand, Mikal Bridges was just traded for like 5 unprotected picks.

Who are you immediately turning around and trading the 3rd pick for in all these multiple draft day trade scenarios though? Timing is everything here and if even one piece of these trades fall apart, you're left with drafting a guy with that pick that you never intended to use. Feels like you guys aren't really factoring this in at all. Once you draft someone for yourself, that pick instantly loses a good amount of its value (the "second you drive a new car off the lot" parallel).

I don't know why you're trading #3. If a good offer comes, sure. Go for it. But I'd be thrilled with any number of dudes being mocked at #3. It's easy to see how Sheppard, Clingan, Castle, Carter, Sarr, and Holland would fit.

[M-C-G]

You'd have to be crazy to not harbor some concerns about Khris' durability at this point. I would argue though that the idea of turning him into a couple mediocre rotation guys just because they're gonna play 72-games vs. Khris' 50-ish, isn't reason enough to trade him for said mediocre rotation guys. Now, if teams like Houston and Orlando strike out on their #1 trade targets (KD, Paul George) and are willing to fork over a haul for Khris, then that becomes a lot more interesting.

If Bridges is worth 5 picks, then Midds is probably worth a player and 3 firsts? I’d think about that given the flexibility it would allow us especially if it allowed us to bundle Lopez, Pat, Portis salary plus the picks to make a big move.

But my preference is Midds as the 6th man going forward, I think that is probably best path to championship if we can get a competent starting SF to start

[Ron Swanson]

On the other hand, Mikal Bridges was just traded for like 5 unprotected picks.

Who are you immediately turning around and trading the 3rd pick for in all these multiple draft day trade scenarios though? Timing is everything here and if even one piece of these trades fall apart, you're left with drafting a guy with that pick that you never intended to use. Feels like you guys aren't really factoring this in at all. Once you draft someone for yourself, that pick instantly loses a good amount of its value (the "second you drive a new car off the lot" parallel).

I don't know why you're trading #3. If a good offer comes, sure. Go for it.

Easy. Imagine if the Warriors traded the #2 pick for Jrue in 2020 instead of drafting James Wiseman. The two timelines thing just doesn't work. It never does.

[ReasonablySober]

Who are you immediately turning around and trading the 3rd pick for in all these multiple draft day trade scenarios though? Timing is everything here and if even one piece of these trades fall apart, you're left with drafting a guy with that pick that you never intended to use. Feels like you guys aren't really factoring this in at all. Once you draft someone for yourself, that pick instantly loses a good amount of its value (the "second you drive a new car off the lot" parallel).

I don't know why you're trading #3. If a good offer comes, sure. Go for it.

Easy. Imagine if the Warriors traded the #2 pick for Jrue in 2020 instead of drafting James Wiseman. The two timelines thing just doesn't work. It never does.

Imagine if they took my #1 that year in Tyrese Haliburton.

[James1980]

You'd have to be crazy to not harbor some concerns about Khris' durability at this point. I would argue though that the idea of turning him into a couple mediocre rotation guys just because they're gonna play 72-games vs. Khris' 50-ish, isn't reason enough to trade him for said mediocre rotation guys. Now, if teams like Houston and Orlando strike out on their #1 trade targets (KD, Paul George) and are willing to fork over a haul for Khris, then that becomes a lot more interesting.

If Bridges is worth 5 picks, then Midds is probably worth a player and 3 firsts? I’d think about that given the flexibility it would allow us especially if it allowed us to bundle Lopez, Pat, Portis salary plus the picks to make a big move.

But my preference is Midds as the 6th man going forward, I think that is probably best path to championship if we can get a competent starting SF to start

If Midds goes to 6th man then we need a new starting 2 and 3. I think we'd alright with a 3 and D guy at 2 like a Lu Dort or Terrance Mann and Midds still starting at 3.

[emunney]

There’s nothing about Tari Eason that says he’s anything more than a role player. So yeah, I’d say trading a bonafide 3 for him is rolling the dice.

So you're gambling on Tari Eason and the #3 overall pick not getting any better? Or is it just that you don't believe in them?

This draft is unbelievably thin and I’d be pretty surprised if there’s a future All Star in the lottery.

Eason just doesn’t interest me. You’d be asking him to play the 3 unless you’re shifting Giannis to the 5 and he’s well below league average from an efficiency standpoint. It’s a massive downgrade on offense.

What I'm trying to point out is that what you're doing in rejecting the trade is not categorically different from the people who would accept it. You just have different evaluations.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't know why you're trading #3. If a good offer comes, sure. Go for it.

Easy. Imagine if the Warriors traded the #2 pick for Jrue in 2020 instead of drafting James Wiseman. The two timelines thing just doesn't work. It never does.

Imagine if they took my #1 that year in Tyrese Haliburton.

Yet Jrue would have maximized the Warriors 2020-2023 title window better than waiting another 2-years for Haliburton to become that guy. Again, timing is everything. I'm just much more concerned with maximizing the title window these next 2-years than I am with what the team looks like with age-33 and older Giannis.

[Prez]

I’m just rooting for wild **** to happen at this point lol. Like a total revamp of the roster outside of Giannis/Dame. Khris still the GOAT and I will not tolerate slander of him in terms of the player he is, but seeing that hilarious Bridges trade, there are some reeeeally interesting possibilities with Khris. I think him having a great playoff series without Giannis/Dame is gonna have a lot of teams interested. Though obviously I’d love it if he sticks around.

[Bernman]

The playoffs showed Middleton was babying injuries during the regular season to save himself & he could fight thru most of them to be available if needed. The same ankle problems that took him out a month or two only robbed him of half a game.

[chonestown]

At this point you HAVE to question Kate Middleton's availability.

[midranger]

Easy. Imagine if the Warriors traded the #2 pick for Jrue in 2020 instead of drafting James Wiseman. The two timelines thing just doesn't work. It never does.

Imagine if they took my #1 that year in Tyrese Haliburton.

Yet Jrue would have maximized the Warriors 2020-2023 title window better than waiting another 2-years for Haliburton to become that guy. Again, timing is everything. I'm just much more concerned with maximizing the title window these next 2-years than I am with what the team looks like with age-33 and older Giannis.

Brook, Portis, Conny, #3 for KAT?

Dame
Powell
Eason
Giannis
KAT

[Ron Swanson]

Imagine if they took my #1 that year in Tyrese Haliburton.

Yet Jrue would have maximized the Warriors 2020-2023 title window better than waiting another 2-years for Haliburton to become that guy. Again, timing is everything. I'm just much more concerned with maximizing the title window these next 2-years than I am with what the team looks like with age-33 and older Giannis.

Brook, Portis, Conny, #3 for KAT?

Dame
Powell
Eason
Giannis
KAT

God no, I'd rather move that stuff for Dejounte Murray, and I'm not even that high on him as much as other people are. KAT just isn't a dude you can ever trust in the playoffs.

[pifhluk23]

Here's to hoping we make a trade today rather than the very low % chance we get a serviceable player with our picks. If we end up with a 2nd left over I'd take Cam Spencer, he might actually be able to play right away.

If we could get a S&T Lopez + picks or whatever young guy for Claxton that would be awesome.

[EasyE31]

Ok lets get nuts:

Trade 1:

Middleton to Rockets for #3, Brooks, Eason

Trade 2:

Brook to OKC for #12, Dort

Now you are under the apron

Trade 3:

Pat, Bobby, #23 for Jarret Allen

Draft:

Take Clingan at #3
Take Devin Carter at #12

Dame/Pat Bev
Dort/Green
Brooks/Carter
Giannis/Eason
Allen/Clingan

This was fun but I will now return to reality.

[buckboy]

That would be cool, but 2 & 3 are pipe dreams unforunately.

[ShootingtheJ]

Pelicans get: Lopez, #33
Bucks get: Nance, Daniels, #21

[paulpressey25]

Pelicans get: Lopez, #33
Bucks get: Nance, Daniels, #21

I'd do this one.

[LUKE23]

Why do we want Dyson Daniels?

[SupremeHustle]

Pelicans get: Lopez, #33
Bucks get: Nance, Daniels, #21

The Pels ain't touching that. I'm down to try, though.