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2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th

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Your personal preference?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:57 am

Bub Carrington
12
18%
Jared McCain
8
12%
Ja'Kobe Walter
2
3%
Isaiah Collier
0
No votes
Tyler Kolek
1
1%
Tristan Da Silva
19
28%
Johnny Furphy
1
1%
Zach Edey
7
10%
Yves Missi
1
1%
Other, namely...
16
24%
 
Total votes: 67

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#21 » by VFX » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:30 pm

It’s going to be Topic or a trade. Just my guess.

Would be fine with Kolek or McCain.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#22 » by three3d » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:39 pm

Knightro wrote:I definitely think Topic will be the pick if he falls to 18.

The ultimate "delay making any and all important decisions as long as humanly possible" front office in the entire league picking a guy who probably won't play as a rookie because of a knee injury?

It makes too much sense :noway:


If Topic make it past 12 it makes sense to trade up to 13 (Sacramento) or 14 (Portland) to get him. I realistically think any team that wants him will be targeting him there. Portland at 14 ideally for us so we could also acquire Anfernee Simmons in a deal. Its a massive win for us because we get a year of Simmons as lead guard while Topic recovers and in Simmons last season Topic comes back and doesn’t have to be thrown in as a starter right away unless he’s clearly better.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#23 » by fendilim » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:41 pm

The more i think of carrington the more he dont make sense. He is a good player no doubt, but his range is exactly like paolo’s. We need a floor spacer. Unless he brings something elite, i think we’d pass.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#24 » by Howard Mass » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:41 pm

It's going to be different with the 2nd round taking place Tomorrow afternoon.

I think we can see a lot of surprises tonight on the trade market and could see the Magic making a big move or just picking at #18.

As for #18, in this Draft, you got to go "Best Available Player".

Tristan Da Silva would be my pick if he is there. The guy could be a good rotation player with his shooting and defense.

In this Draft especially you need to find a player who can stick and feel Da Silva would be a steal at #18.

Other options I like in order

Baylor Scheierman
Terrence Shannon Jr
Kel'el Ware
Kyshawn George
Johnny Furphy
Tyler Kolek
Ja'Kobe Walter
Ron Holland
Jared McCain

As for #47, if they keep the pick and get someone who could be a Two-Way or outright signing. I don't think you can get a future 2nd for a pick as low as #47 during the Draft although 3 picks that won't be better than #46 got the Magic a very nice first-round swap in 2026.

Jaylen Wells
Juan Nunez
Tyler Smith
Antonio Reeves
Justin Edwards
Draft and International stash.

It should be exciting and we could have some surprises or a typical night.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#25 » by jonbob17 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:44 pm

I just looked at some random top 50 list and 16 of the top 50 are 22 years or older. It’s a weird draft.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#26 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:52 pm

i see a few possibilities I would like:

Da Silva - combo forward SF/PF. can shoot the 3, older and more mature, international experience to go with college. Good replacement for Ingles.

DaRon Holmes - would fill the need of shot blocking big man. upperclassmen so a little more into his adult body, did play at a smaller college but the skills look there and showed decent 3 pt range (38%) albeit smaller volume (2.5 fga/game)

Shannon - oldest player in draft i think (24 next month) but could start as microwave scorer off the bench. smaller wingspan than expected, but competent defender.

JAylon Tyson - another Ingles replacement. good passer, decent 3 pt shooter, good overall offensive game. ceiling probably bench wing that can start when needed

Collier - bigger PG prospect to take the place of Cole.

no to Topic for me. we need to stop taking injured players. its one thing if it was just 1 injury, but this seems too much. by all reports, he is average athlete before the injuries, not a good 3 pt shooter, not a good defender. good passer, but we need more than that
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#27 » by three3d » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:54 pm

New York with the 24th and 25th pick tonight is interesting. I’m thinking they don’t need both and have no future 1st round picks for a few years so perhaps they would be interested in swapping that 24th pick tonight for a 1st round pick next season.

Orlando trades Cole or Wendell + future 1st round pick to the Knicks tonight and with the 24th pick we grab Baylor Shceierman. Doing this with the assumption we are going ro get Claxton or Hartenstein as a FA allows us to add a pg,sg or forward in the draft.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#28 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:56 pm

three3d wrote:New York with the 24th and 25th pick tonight is interesting. I’m thinking they don’t need both and have no future 1st round picks for a few years so perhaps they would be interested in swapping that 24th pick tonight for a 1st round pick next season.

Orlando trades Cole or Wendell + future 1st round pick to the Knicks tonight and with the 24th pick we grab Baylor Shceierman. Doing this with the assumption we are going ro get Claxton or Hartenstein as a FA allows us to add a pg,sg or forward in the draft.

they are going to need some cheap bench players with the big deals they have on the books now, especially if they re-sign OG and whatever happens with I-Hart
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#29 » by three3d » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:58 pm

tiderulz wrote:
three3d wrote:New York with the 24th and 25th pick tonight is interesting. I’m thinking they don’t need both and have no future 1st round picks for a few years so perhaps they would be interested in swapping that 24th pick tonight for a 1st round pick next season.

Orlando trades Cole or Wendell + future 1st round pick to the Knicks tonight and with the 24th pick we grab Baylor Shceierman. Doing this with the assumption we are going ro get Claxton or Hartenstein as a FA allows us to add a pg,sg or forward in the draft.

they are going to need some cheap bench players with the big deals they have on the books now, especially if they re-sign OG and whatever happens with I-Hart


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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#30 » by jgiannip » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:58 pm

Howard Mass wrote:It's going to be different with the 2nd round taking place Tomorrow afternoon.

I think we can see a lot of surprises tonight on the trade market and could see the Magic making a big move or just picking at #18.

As for #18, in this Draft, you got to go "Best Available Player".

Tristan Da Silva would be my pick if he is there. The guy could be a good rotation player with his shooting and defense.

In this Draft especially you need to find a player who can stick and feel Da Silva would be a steal at #18.

Other options I like in order

Baylor Scheierman
Terrence Shannon Jr
Kel'el Ware
Kyshawn George
Johnny Furphy
Tyler Kolek
Ja'Kobe Walter
Ron Holland
Jared McCain

As for #47, if they keep the pick and get someone who could be a Two-Way or outright signing. I don't think you can get a future 2nd for a pick as low as #47 during the Draft although 3 picks that won't be better than #46 got the Magic a very nice first-round swap in 2026.

Jaylen Wells
Juan Nunez
Tyler Smith
Antonio Reeves
Justin Edwards
Draft and International stash.

It should be exciting and we could have some surprises or a typical night.


What up Howard how you living... first draft i can remember in a long time i've no clue of the players we would be looking to draft.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#31 » by Magic#1 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:07 pm

Topic would be a home run if he somehow drops. Some mocks have him dropping to us, but I don't see it happening in this draft. If he's gone, McCain, Da Silva, Carrington, Filipkowski, maybe even Dillingham are all legit options who would be good prospects.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#32 » by Howard Mass » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:07 pm

jgiannip wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:It's going to be different with the 2nd round taking place Tomorrow afternoon.

I think we can see a lot of surprises tonight on the trade market and could see the Magic making a big move or just picking at #18.

As for #18, in this Draft, you got to go "Best Available Player".

Tristan Da Silva would be my pick if he is there. The guy could be a good rotation player with his shooting and defense.

In this Draft especially you need to find a player who can stick and feel Da Silva would be a steal at #18.

Other options I like in order

Baylor Scheierman
Terrence Shannon Jr
Kel'el Ware
Kyshawn George
Johnny Furphy
Tyler Kolek
Ja'Kobe Walter
Ron Holland
Jared McCain

As for #47, if they keep the pick and get someone who could be a Two-Way or outright signing. I don't think you can get a future 2nd for a pick as low as #47 during the Draft although 3 picks that won't be better than #46 got the Magic a very nice first-round swap in 2026.

Jaylen Wells
Juan Nunez
Tyler Smith
Antonio Reeves
Justin Edwards
Draft and International stash.

It should be exciting and we could have some surprises or a typical night.


What up Howard how you living... first draft i can remember in a long time i've no clue of the players we would be looking to draft.


I'm great. How about you?

Anything can happen tonight.

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#33 » by three3d » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:10 pm

Howard Mass wrote:
jgiannip wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:It's going to be different with the 2nd round taking place Tomorrow afternoon.

I think we can see a lot of surprises tonight on the trade market and could see the Magic making a big move or just picking at #18.

As for #18, in this Draft, you got to go "Best Available Player".

Tristan Da Silva would be my pick if he is there. The guy could be a good rotation player with his shooting and defense.

In this Draft especially you need to find a player who can stick and feel Da Silva would be a steal at #18.

Other options I like in order

Baylor Scheierman
Terrence Shannon Jr
Kel'el Ware
Kyshawn George
Johnny Furphy
Tyler Kolek
Ja'Kobe Walter
Ron Holland
Jared McCain

As for #47, if they keep the pick and get someone who could be a Two-Way or outright signing. I don't think you can get a future 2nd for a pick as low as #47 during the Draft although 3 picks that won't be better than #46 got the Magic a very nice first-round swap in 2026.

Jaylen Wells
Juan Nunez
Tyler Smith
Antonio Reeves
Justin Edwards
Draft and International stash.

It should be exciting and we could have some surprises or a typical night.


What up Howard how you living... first draft i can remember in a long time i've no clue of the players we would be looking to draft.


I'm great. How about you?

Anything can happen tonight.

Weltman is always full of Draft surprises.


Weltman is still a little groggy right now, he just woke from his slumber to see the news about the Knicks trade last night.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#34 » by Def Swami » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:16 pm

This is the least invested I’ve been in a draft since Daniel Orton and Deandre Liggins in 2010 and 2011.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#35 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:19 pm

Magic#1 wrote:Topic would be a home run if he somehow drops. Some mocks have him dropping to us, but I don't see it happening in this draft. If he's gone, McCain, Da Silva, Carrington, Filipkowski, maybe even Dillingham are all legit options who would be good prospects.

sell him to me. explain why he is a "home run"
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Post#36 » by three3d » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:21 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Magic#1 wrote:Topic would be a home run if he somehow drops. Some mocks have him dropping to us, but I don't see it happening in this draft. If he's gone, McCain, Da Silva, Carrington, Filipkowski, maybe even Dillingham are all legit options who would be good prospects.

sell him to me. explain why he is a "home run"

Simplest answer, we need a point guard and he clearly was going to be a top 10 pick.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#37 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:23 pm

three3d wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Magic#1 wrote:Topic would be a home run if he somehow drops. Some mocks have him dropping to us, but I don't see it happening in this draft. If he's gone, McCain, Da Silva, Carrington, Filipkowski, maybe even Dillingham are all legit options who would be good prospects.

sell him to me. explain why he is a "home run"

Simplest answer, we need a point guard and he clearly was going to be a top 10 pick.

there are lots of PG prospects projected as lottery picks. From what i read, injuries, lack of athleticism, sub par 3 pt shooter, bad defender. I just dont see the upside more than a tall, good passing player who could continue to be injury plagued
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Post#38 » by fendilim » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:26 pm

jgiannip wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:It's going to be different with the 2nd round taking place Tomorrow afternoon.

I think we can see a lot of surprises tonight on the trade market and could see the Magic making a big move or just picking at #18.

As for #18, in this Draft, you got to go "Best Available Player".

Tristan Da Silva would be my pick if he is there. The guy could be a good rotation player with his shooting and defense.

In this Draft especially you need to find a player who can stick and feel Da Silva would be a steal at #18.

Other options I like in order

Baylor Scheierman
Terrence Shannon Jr
Kel'el Ware
Kyshawn George
Johnny Furphy
Tyler Kolek
Ja'Kobe Walter
Ron Holland
Jared McCain

As for #47, if they keep the pick and get someone who could be a Two-Way or outright signing. I don't think you can get a future 2nd for a pick as low as #47 during the Draft although 3 picks that won't be better than #46 got the Magic a very nice first-round swap in 2026.

Jaylen Wells
Juan Nunez
Tyler Smith
Antonio Reeves
Justin Edwards
Draft and International stash.

It should be exciting and we could have some surprises or a typical night.


What up Howard how you living... first draft i can remember in a long time i've no clue of the players we would be looking to draft.

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Post#39 » by Audi » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:30 pm

tiderulz wrote:
three3d wrote:
tiderulz wrote:sell him to me. explain why he is a "home run"

Simplest answer, we need a point guard and he clearly was going to be a top 10 pick.

there are lots of PG prospects projected as lottery picks. From what i read, injuries, lack of athleticism, sub par 3 pt shooter, bad defender. I just dont see the upside more than a tall, good passing player who could continue to be injury plagued


Yup. We don't just need any ol' PG either, we need one that spaces the floor with 3pt shooting.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#40 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:31 pm

tiderulz wrote:
three3d wrote:
tiderulz wrote:sell him to me. explain why he is a "home run"

Simplest answer, we need a point guard and he clearly was going to be a top 10 pick.

there are lots of PG prospects projected as lottery picks. From what i read, injuries, lack of athleticism, sub par 3 pt shooter, bad defender. I just dont see the upside more than a tall, good passing player who could continue to be injury plagued


international prospects mainly the guards scare the crap out of me mainly because... the international game is more pass and move/run set plays, don't deviate vs the current NBA where if you can't break down your guy you're somewhat a liability offensively. Not to mention he is a CONE on defense and his team consistently tried to hide him or have a hedge for when he got beat.

If that shooting doesn't turn a corner he's another Giddey/Exum/Fultz type of player
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:

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