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Post#321 » by Decipher » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:08 pm

Skybox wrote:Assuming Claxton is now looking out his window at the wide NBA world...and can see the obvious fit and opportunity to compete in ORL. Basically, knowing they can just pay him without giving up assets...

ORL sends: Bitadze (SnT), Cole Anthony, DEN 25 frp, 2 srps
BRK sends: Claxton (SnT), Schroeder


Pretty sure that’s illegal as you can’t add another player to the one being SnT’d i.e. it’s Clax (SnT) for X while Denis would need to be moved separately
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#322 » by Keith Van Horn » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:13 pm

Skybox wrote:Assuming Claxton is now looking out his window at the wide NBA world...and can see the obvious fit and opportunity to compete in ORL. Basically, knowing they can just pay him without giving up assets...

ORL sends: Bitadze (SnT), Cole Anthony, DEN 25 frp, 2 srps
BRK sends: Claxton (SnT), Schroeder

I'd be in on Anthony and the 18 this year
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Post#323 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:15 pm

Man this is exciting!

Really wish we shipped the second best of ‘29 picks, but I’ve always been a greedy fan. Especially if I’m wrong about Cam Thomas, cause if he really is that dude, we’re won’t be bottom 5 bad. But I digress.

Next up is getting into the first round of this draft.

Me thinks Marks is going to wind up in the late lottery and we windup with one of Carter, Salaun, McCain, Cody Williams, Carrington or Dillingham.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#324 » by Skybox » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:53 pm

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Skybox wrote:Assuming Claxton is now looking out his window at the wide NBA world...and can see the obvious fit and opportunity to compete in ORL. Basically, knowing they can just pay him without giving up assets...

ORL sends: Bitadze (SnT), Cole Anthony, DEN 25 frp, 2 srps
BRK sends: Claxton (SnT), Schroeder


Pretty sure that’s illegal as you can’t add another player to the one being SnT’d i.e. it’s Clax (SnT) for X while Denis would need to be moved separately


Could certainly be configured (in multiple trades, if all parties, particularly Claxton, are supportive. ORL’s cap space makes many things possible
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#325 » by Netaman » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:03 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Man this is exciting!

Really wish we shipped the second best of ‘29 picks, but I’ve always been a greedy fan. Especially if I’m wrong about Cam Thomas, cause if he really is that dude, we’re won’t be bottom 5 bad. But I digress.

Next up is getting into the first round of this draft.

Me thinks Marks is going to wind up in the late lottery and we windup with one of Carter, Salaun, McCain, Cody Williams, Carrington or Dillingham.


yeah I'd guess something top 15ish for CamJ (sac? mem?) and then probably another pick for DFS (though that could be futures).

I'm most interested in what you could bring back with a salary dump. Does CHI want out of Lavine so badly they'd attach #11? That's basically free money if so, though like you i'm also greedy and i'd ask for more :lol: .

once again the marksman moved silently in the night and when he got his shot he didn't miss. he's an excellent GM. can't wait to see what he does next year with all these 2025 picks. I'm a little bummed he had to trade 4 picks to get back the 2 net picks, but at least he hung on to the pho28 swap.
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Post#326 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:08 pm

Time to have a fire sale.

DFS, Schroeder, Bojan, Cam J can all go to the highest bidder.

Hopefully we can get into this draft. We need some nice young role players to start our rebuild.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#327 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:23 pm

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vincecarter4pres wrote:Man this is exciting!

Really wish we shipped the second best of ‘29 picks, but I’ve always been a greedy fan. Especially if I’m wrong about Cam Thomas, cause if he really is that dude, we’re won’t be bottom 5 bad. But I digress.

Next up is getting into the first round of this draft.

Me thinks Marks is going to wind up in the late lottery and we windup with one of Carter, Salaun, McCain, Cody Williams, Carrington or Dillingham.


yeah I'd guess something top 15ish for CamJ (sac? mem?) and then probably another pick for DFS (though that could be futures).

I'm most interested in what you could bring back with a salary dump. Does CHI want out of Lavine so badly they'd attach #11? That's basically free money if so, though like you i'm also greedy and i'd ask for more :lol: .

once again the marksman moved silently in the night and when he got his shot he didn't miss. he's an excellent GM. can't wait to see what he does next year with all these 2025 picks. I'm a little bummed he had to trade 4 picks to get back the 2 net picks, but at least he hung on to the pho28 swap.

LaVine’s contract is entirely too gross, need at least an unprotected future pick in addition to the 11.

I’d completely stay away though, he’s more numbers then impact, but no sense in adding wins and taking minutes this year. Next year is a different story, or more so ‘26-27.

Saw this morning it’s the ‘25, ‘27 and most two favorable of the ‘29 picks between Phoenix, Dallas and Houston. It’s a lot tbh. Unless it’s the Rockets who land KD by sending Phoenix back their picks, they are going to be an unsolicited dumpster fire, I’m honestly surprised the ‘25, ‘27 and worse of the ‘29 picks wasn’t enough to get it done. Oh well.

Truly believe Marks is going to get somewhere in the teens this draft, and an early to mid 2nd as well.

And I know I’m a certified Cam hater, but the kid is good with a high ceiling, I’d try my damndest to get the 1st or 2nd overall for him and snag Reed Sheppard, or possibly Sarr.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#328 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:26 pm

As others of us are discussing, have to wonder what happens with Clax.

It’s still a better situation for him here opposed to Detroit as an example, for slightly less or equal money. Orlando is interesting if you think Paolo and Franz work as permanent 3/4’s, though I see them more as 4/5.

S&T’s open up a world of possibilities for 3 parties though, and maybe even a likely mid to late first round pick in ‘26 coming back this way.
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Post#329 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:29 pm

Low key about to place a $100 wager on Cam Thomas leading the league in scoring A$AP.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#330 » by Netaman » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:30 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:LaVine’s contract is entirely too gross, need at least an unprotected future pick in addition to the 11.


totally agree - that's the exact price id want. #11 plus a 27 or 28 unprotected first. 1 good pick for each crappy year at 40m+. that contract is a disaster and he's had injury issues.

I don't think Lavine changes the nets product on court much either but more likely they can probably get a pick close to #11 this year by moving CamJ instead and getting rid of some $ instead of taking on any bad money.

hadnt really thought about a camt trade, but it is interesting. Everyone can afford him right bc he is so cheap. there has to be a contender out there desperate enough to improve but with no cap space to do anything major willing to give up 1-2 distant unprotected firsts for him.

my guess is they dont trade him and use him as the face of development for a year, along with Clax/Clowney/whoever they get today. I dont think cam wins them enough games to keep the pick from being top 5, but he could put up enough stats and have enough big games that they aren't a total joke. then could always revisit dealing him at deadline.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#331 » by Netaman » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:31 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:As others of us are discussing, have to wonder what happens with Clax.

It’s still a better situation for him here opposed to Detroit as an example, for slightly less or equal money. Orlando is interesting if you think Paolo and Franz work as permanent 3/4’s, though I see them more as 4/5.

S&T’s open up a world of possibilities for 3 parties though, and maybe even a likely mid to late first round pick in ‘26 coming back this way.


i think anything is on the table and it will all just come down to value. give marks good value and you've got a deal.

i suspect with enough other center options out there (ihart etc) the claxton market may not be crazy and marks wont get his price so he just brings him back.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#332 » by Netaman » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:16 pm

this enough for everyone? #20 plus Wade/Levert for salary match? Could probably get some 2nds in there too, not sure CLE has any other future firsts they can trade but if they did it probably wouldn't be unprotected (maybe 2031?).

I'd do that deal unless there was something better, which I think is the challenge for CLE because I think there's a good chance the Nets can find a team with a higher pick that #20 this year.

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Post#333 » by Shark » Wed Jun 26, 2024 6:45 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Low key about to place a $100 wager on Cam Thomas leading the league in scoring A$AP.

Yeah, it could easily happen now, especially if we have a fire sale and trade away CamJ and Schroder.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#334 » by Rich Rane » Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:28 pm

I'm in full support of a fire sale. Picks don't even need to be tonight or even next year's draft. We could run a G-League squad at Barclays this season with a few holdovers from last season for all I care. Full tank has to be a minimum two seasons.
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Post#336 » by Rich Rane » Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:47 pm

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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#337 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:58 pm

Sacto and Memphis seem like the most likely way into the lottery.

Maybe it could even be something where Cam J goes to Cleveland, DFS, Sharpe and the 20th to Memphis, Kenard and LeVert with the 9 to Brooklyn, possibly a future 1st from Cleveland, Brooklyn bound.
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Post#338 » by TheNetsFan » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:08 pm

We need to walk away from this draft or offseason with a couple pieces that feel like they may be part of a long term core. It's easier to watch bad basketball when you can be invested in the development of a few key players.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#339 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:12 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:We need to walk away from this draft or offseason with a couple pieces that feel like they may be part of a long term core. It's easier to watch bad basketball when you can be invested in the development of a few key players.

And this draft is being poorly mislabeled as bad.

There are a lot of high quality prospects in a wide 3-18ish range.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#340 » by Netaman » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:14 pm

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TheNetsFan wrote:We need to walk away from this draft or offseason with a couple pieces that feel like they may be part of a long term core. It's easier to watch bad basketball when you can be invested in the development of a few key players.

And this draft is being poorly mislabeled as bad.

There are a lot of high quality prospects in a wide 3-18ish range.


that sort of remains to be seen.

if they get into the draft i would bet on them taking more of a project (either young or euro) who we may not see much this year anyway.

I think the young guys we will watch develop this year are Clowney, Watford, Wilson, and hopefully Whitehead.

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