Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Darvin Returns

[midranger]

Why do we want Dyson Daniels?

I’d think he’s just a flyer in that deal. Can play the defensive wing role in a pinch.

[ShootingtheJ]

Why do we want Dyson Daniels?

Elite defensively as both a point of attack defender and as a big wing defender. Plus he can handle, pass, and rebound. Just turned 21.

One of my top picks for breakout player next year.

[ReddoverKobe]

Suns want to trade Kd is a rumor. A certain coach used to coach here.

[bdpecore]

Here's to hoping we make a trade today rather than the very low % chance we get a serviceable player with our picks. If we end up with a 2nd left over I'd take Cam Spencer, he might actually be able to play right away.

If we could get a S&T Lopez + picks or whatever young guy for Claxton that would be awesome.

If we acquire anyone via a S&T, I believe we will be hard capped at the 1st apron. I'm not sure how we fill out our roster without having to trade Dame.

[neiLz]

Question - bucks can't combine players in a trade since theyre over second apron. Can they combine players to get them under the apron or do they have to wait to get under apron in order to combine?

[JonHeist]

MKE: Eason, Brooks, #3 (Clingan or Risacher)
HOU: Khris

I'm not a trade Midds guy, but if we did feel like we needed to do it something like this could work. It gets us out of the 2nd apron and opens us up to trade any combination of Brook, Bobby, Pat, Marjon, #23, #33, and our far out future 1st.

hey thanks for posting a legal trade that isn't awful, but this still makes us worse next year

****, I'd probably do it so I can draft Reed Sheppard, but I'm irrationally high on him

and I'm really not a fan of brooks.... could we attach #23 to him and get a wing that doesn't suck back?? then I'm sold

[ShootingtheJ]

Question - bucks can't combine players in a trade since theyre over second apron. Can they combine players to get them under the apron or do they have to wait to get under apron in order to combine?

Actually, we can combine players, we just can't combine them to get a singular more expensive player.

[Turk Nowitzki]

Question - bucks can't combine players in a trade since theyre over second apron. Can they combine players to get them under the apron or do they have to wait to get under apron in order to combine?

Actually, we can combine players, we just can't combine them to get a singular more expensive player.

Is that true? You're saying we could do a 2 for 2 trade?

[JonHeist]

Question - bucks can't combine players in a trade since theyre over second apron. Can they combine players to get them under the apron or do they have to wait to get under apron in order to combine?

Actually, we can combine players, we just can't combine them to get a singular more expensive player.

Is that true? We could do a 2 for 2 trade?

if the salaries are right we could do 2 for 2 or 3 for 3 or whatever else

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/trade-machine/_/year/2024

[neiLz]

Question - bucks can't combine players in a trade since theyre over second apron. Can they combine players to get them under the apron or do they have to wait to get under apron in order to combine?

Actually, we can combine players, we just can't combine them to get a singular more expensive player.

Is that true? We could do a 2 for 2 trade?

I was reading one of the explanations about the 2nd apron a few days ago. Can't find it but I swear they mentioned combining just to get under the apron is fine. Teams cannot combine AND stay over the 2nd apron.

[Ron Swanson]

Do that trade but include #23 and move #3 and Brooks to Atlanta for Murray. Bobby and #33 to Sacto for Davion Mitchell and #13. Draft
Jared McCain at 13.

Dame/Mitchell
Murray/McCain
Eason/Pat
Giannis
Brook

Now we're talking.

[paulpressey25]

Dame/Mitchell
Murray/McCain
Eason/Pat
Giannis
Brook

Probably all pipe dreams, but the thing I like most about the deals above is that it resets our Giannis window. Assuming Eason pans out as even "OG lite" we maybe have a three year window versus one-year.

[MiltownMadness]

The perceived value can be fine in the Khris trades, but the direction doesn't make sense. Why should Bucks value #3 in this draft? It's an incredibly weak draft, you are looking at bringing a rookie along for 2-3 years to be ready to contribute in the playoffs for when Giannis is exiting his absolute prime, same thing for Eason as he has not been able to stay on the floor for some mediocre Rockets teams, obviously not ready yet himself. Bucks need to field the best team around Giannis possible the next 2 years, winning a chip is hard. You can reroute #3 but it's just a quarters on the dollar situation, you'd be lucky to get someone 50% of the player as Khris using that trade chip

[LUKE23]

The perceived value can be fine in the Khris trades, but the direction doesn't make sense. Why should Bucks value #3 in this draft? It's an incredibly weak draft, you are looking at bringing a rookie along for 2-3 years to be ready to contribute in the playoffs for when Giannis is exiting his absolute prime, same thing for Eason as he has not been able to stay on the floor for some mediocre Rockets teams, obviously not ready yet himself. Bucks need to field the best team around Giannis possible the next 2 years, winning a chip is hard. Quarters on the dollar has never been the answer in all my years watching NBA

Yeah, this is the issue. No matter what the Bucks do, their realistic title window is 2 years. I think if Dame is committed to conditioning, we have two years to go after this (Curry just had a really good age 35 season). Weakening the top of the roster to try and extend the championship window sounds good in theory, but we are forgetting that top of rosters are what win titles.

I'm more in the "go all out the next two years" camp. Trading Lillard or Middleton for worse second and third best players to try and extend the window is not going to work.

[MiltownMadness]

The perceived value can be fine in the Khris trades, but the direction doesn't make sense. Why should Bucks value #3 in this draft? It's an incredibly weak draft, you are looking at bringing a rookie along for 2-3 years to be ready to contribute in the playoffs for when Giannis is exiting his absolute prime, same thing for Eason as he has not been able to stay on the floor for some mediocre Rockets teams, obviously not ready yet himself. Bucks need to field the best team around Giannis possible the next 2 years, winning a chip is hard. Quarters on the dollar has never been the answer in all my years watching NBA

Yeah, this is the issue. No matter what the Bucks do, their realistic title window is 2 years. I think if Dame is committed to conditioning, we have two years to go after this (Curry just had a really good age 35 season). Weakening the top of the roster to try and extend the championship window sounds good in theory, but we are forgetting that top of rosters are what win titles.

I'm more in the "go all out the next two years" camp. Trading Lillard or Middleton for worse second and third best players to try and extend the window is not going to work.

Yeah I think this is the best way to explain my viewpoint

[paulpressey25]

same thing for Eason as he has not been able to stay on the floor for some mediocre Rockets teams,

Eason played all 82 games as a rookie. Last year they discovered he had a benign growth on one of his leg bones where it joined the foot. He tried to play through it, but they finally went to surgery to remove it. I think most believe he's 100% now.

“He had obviously been going through some things through the year and had a benign growth on the shin bone, the tibia I think,” Udoka said. “Took that blow early in the season. Flared up. He played through it with some pain. Never had a chance of fracturing. It was a pain tolerance thing. Once the pain got too high, he shut it down.

“We thought rest and rehab, he could get over it that way, but every time he ramped up, the pain came right back. After seeing all the specialists and decision makers, came to the decision that it’s best to have surgery Monday. He’ll be ready for the start of the season. A little bone graft put in there and he’ll be ready in four months.”

Eason had an impressive rookie season — 9.3 points and six rebounds a night showing real defensive potential, plus he played in all 82 games — and was expected to be a regular part of the Rockets rotation this season, but could never get on track due to the injuries. In the limited minutes he did play, the Rockets’ defense was 9.3 points per 100 possessions better.

[MiltownMadness]

Even Ime is doing some sweeping under the rug in that blurb def something to think about

Eason is a fine young player but once again it's the direction that has me saying no

[Ron Swanson]

I guess I'll be the one to say that I don't think trading a Top 35-40ish player along with a 1st round pick, and using some creative asset management to end up with Dejounte Murray and Tari Eason, is really that much of a "pipe dream". I mean hell, add on two pick swaps and that's basically the return we gave out for the Dame trade. I'll keep stressing that actual NBA GM's value good veteran players way more than a bunch of you guys think they do.

[jakecronus8]

Why do we want Dyson Daniels?

I’d think he’s just a flyer in that deal. Can play the defensive wing role in a pinch.

I think he could be this coming season’s version Suggs. Get him as a lotto ticket breakout candidate. New Orleans hasn’t really given him the keys much

[MiltownMadness]

I guess I'll be the one to say that I don't think trading a Top 35-40ish player along with a 1st round pick, and using some creative asset management to end up with Dejounte Murray and Tari Eason, is really that much of a "pipe dream". I mean hell, add on two pick swaps and that's basically the return we gave out for the Dame trade. I'll keep stressing that actual NBA GM's value good veteran players way more than a bunch of you guys think they do.

Sounds like jumping through lots of hoops for 2 specific players you want. Whole lot of assumptions there. And Murray is not good

And yes, our GM values Khris way more than realGM thinks we do