WOJ: Blazers trade Brogdon and 14 for WAS or Deni Avdija

[BlazersBroncos]

This is a fantastic trade for us.

Deni will be entering his year 23 season so he is basically the same age as Dalton. He is able to defend 2-4 at a near elite level and is able to hold his own when switched to a 1 or 5. He is on a deal that is likely the best value contract in the NBA and it’s declining (15.6 / 14.3 / 13.1 / 11.8).

After the AS break he managed 17 / 9 / 4 on 60% TS. He plays the game the right way, creating for others without ball stopping. If his shot holds up he is going to be an All Star. As it stands, we have the second coming of Batum, but with more hustle and toughness.

He is absolutely a young core guy being about 2.5 years older than Sharpe, the same age as Dalton, a year older than Edey and the same age as Silva.

This kid is absolutely the best basketball player on the Blazers roster now.

The 2029 pick is my only worry, but I will need to see if any protections are on it. That being said, I would take Deni over anyone in this draft.

A core of Deni, Scoot, Sharpe and #7 is exciting. Will have 34 and 40 to play with as well.

Additionally, hopefully this means Grant is gone.

[Blazinaway]

Also, is Woj trolling us all at this point... "The Blazers are sending the second most favorable of their 2029 first-round picks"

Can that be any more confusing of a way to word it?

Man, what's wrong dude, very good trade, guy is 23 and on a GREAT contract, can be flipped AT ANY TIME for very good value

[Effigy]

I just want to remind everyone that we had three picks in 2029. Second most favorable mean it'll be the second best pick we have of the three. Hopefully we will be good by 2029. I'm guessing Boston is still going to be good in 2029. It's a chance Milwaukee will not be good in 2029, but that doesn't matter if Boston and we are good in 2029 because we'd keep Milwaukee's and give up our own or Boston's.

Also, its possible the pick we owe the Bulls could convey then, meaning it would be the Boston pick we would send in that scenario?

[The Sebastian Express]

I just want to remind everyone that we had three picks in 2029. Second most favorable mean it'll be the second best pick we have of the three. Hopefully we will be good by 2029. I'm guessing Boston is still going to be good in 2029. It's a chance Milwaukee will not be good in 2029, but that doesn't matter if Boston and we are good in 2029 because we'd keep Milwaukee's and give up our own or Boston's.

Also, its possible the pick we owe the Bulls could convey then, meaning it would be the Boston pick we would send in that scenario?

I.. am not sure at all. I guess technically you could be right, I think our lottery protections run out in 2028 so I think you're right? But don't quote me on that.

[elias808]

Well…huh….

[Jsun947]

This is a fantastic trade for us.

Deni will be entering his year 23 season so he is basically the same age as Dalton. He is able to defend 2-4 at a near elite level and is able to hold his own when switched to a 1 or 5. He is on a deal that is likely the best value contract in the NBA and it’s declining (15.6 / 14.3 / 13.1 / 11.8).

After the AS break he managed 17 / 9 / 4 on 60% TS. He plays the game the right way, creating for others without ball stopping. If his shot holds up he is going to be an All Star. As it stands, we have the second coming of Batum, but with more hustle and toughness.

He is absolutely a young core guy being about 2.5 years older than Sharpe, the same age as Dalton, a year older than Edey and the same age as Silva.

This kid is absolutely the best basketball player on the Blazers roster now.

The 2029 pick is my only worry, but I will need to see if any protections are on it. That being said, I would take Deni over anyone in this draft.

A core of Deni, Scoot, Sharpe and #7 is exciting. Will have 34 and 40 to play with as well.

Additionally, hopefully this means Grant is gone.

I think you could fairly argue that the negative comments so far in this thread have everything to do with the fact that Avdija is Jewish and nothing with who he is as a player, prospect, contract, etc.

[Effigy]

Another thing to keep in mind, this is a terrible, awful draft. The guy we are projected to take at 14’s player comp is Boban. Debi is absolutely better than anone we were going to draft at 14. (7 too, I bet)

[BlazersBroncos]

If we can somehow flip Grant to SAC or LAL for the 13 or 17 and filler this move looks even better.

[Jsun947]

If we can somehow flip Grant to SAC or LAL for the 13 or 17 and filler this move looks even better.

Or OKC for #12, or Chicago for #11... Lots of places we could flip him to, although I'm afraid we won't.

[Blazinaway]

If we can somehow flip Grant to SAC or LAL for the 13 or 17 and filler this move looks even better.

yeah, I am thinking this means very good chance Grant is gone

[Jsun947]

If we can somehow flip Grant to SAC or LAL for the 13 or 17 and filler this move looks even better.

yeah, I am thinking this means very good chance Grant is gone

Blazers said they want to take a leap like Houston did last year so I'm not so sure about that. We play Grant at PF anyway so this doesn't change anything. We might end up out of the tax without moving Grant as well.

[DusterBuster]

Also, is Woj trolling us all at this point... "The Blazers are sending the second most favorable of their 2029 first-round picks"

Can that be any more confusing of a way to word it?

Man, what's wrong dude, very good trade, guy is 23 and on a GREAT contract, can be flipped AT ANY TIME for very good value

I've made it clear why I hate this trade.

I'm also always skeptical of guys having breakout years on bad teams. Great he's on a value contract, but this is not how I want to see the Blazers spending their draft capital.

Hopefully I'll be made to eat crow and this will end up being a good deal, but in the moment I hate seeing 2 FRPs picks and Brogdon used as contract filler.

[Tim Lehrbach]

This is a fantastic trade for us.

Deni will be entering his year 23 season so he is basically the same age as Dalton. He is able to defend 2-4 at a near elite level and is able to hold his own when switched to a 1 or 5. He is on a deal that is likely the best value contract in the NBA and it’s declining (15.6 / 14.3 / 13.1 / 11.8).

After the AS break he managed 17 / 9 / 4 on 60% TS. He plays the game the right way, creating for others without ball stopping. If his shot holds up he is going to be an All Star. As it stands, we have the second coming of Batum, but with more hustle and toughness.

He is absolutely a young core guy being about 2.5 years older than Sharpe, the same age as Dalton, a year older than Edey and the same age as Silva.

This kid is absolutely the best basketball player on the Blazers roster now.

The 2029 pick is my only worry, but I will need to see if any protections are on it. That being said, I would take Deni over anyone in this draft.

A core of Deni, Scoot, Sharpe and #7 is exciting. Will have 34 and 40 to play with as well.

Additionally, hopefully this means Grant is gone.

I am just about here myself. I understand why others are hesitant about the 2029 pick (two of the three teams whose picks Portland owns could definitely suck) and investing in a good player now instead of continuing to stockpile future assets...

...I just don't share those views. Deni is just as valuable in trade (by definition) as what they gave up -- probably more so, since he also has a contract attached, meaning the Blazers give up less for matching salaries in a hypothetical trade for a star. He's a win-now, win-later, OR trade-later piece. This is more than can be said with any degree of certainty about the first rounders surrendered.

As for Batum, I think he's potentially better. Nic was (is?) a good player, but he wasted one of the quickest, sweetest strokes in the NBA by wanting to be a playmaker/connector type instead of a dynamic off-ball scorer/secondary guy. And, even as the on-ball guy he was in his brief peak, he was still passive. I think he was overrated in the role he played and underrated for the role he wouldn't play.

But that's an aside. Deni is not Batum and seems to have more aggression to him at both ends. I trust he'll continue to grow as a scorer. Good player, good deal.

[DusterBuster]

If we can somehow flip Grant to SAC or LAL for the 13 or 17 and filler this move looks even better.

yeah, I am thinking this means very good chance Grant is gone

If more deals are made today to replenish some FRP stock, it'll make this deal more palatable in the immediate

[Norm2953]

Also, is Woj trolling us all at this point... "The Blazers are sending the second most favorable of their 2029 first-round picks"

Can that be any more confusing of a way to word it?

Man, what's wrong dude, very good trade, guy is 23 and on a GREAT contract, can be flipped AT ANY TIME for very good value

Blazers have three FRP in the 2029 draft. Its the middle FRP which is going to the Wizards

[PDXKnight]

I suspect deni will be an instant fan favorite. And young with tons of upside. It's kinda growing on me after I saw his value contract

[The Sebastian Express]

This is a fantastic trade for us.

Deni will be entering his year 23 season so he is basically the same age as Dalton. He is able to defend 2-4 at a near elite level and is able to hold his own when switched to a 1 or 5. He is on a deal that is likely the best value contract in the NBA and it’s declining (15.6 / 14.3 / 13.1 / 11.8).

After the AS break he managed 17 / 9 / 4 on 60% TS. He plays the game the right way, creating for others without ball stopping. If his shot holds up he is going to be an All Star. As it stands, we have the second coming of Batum, but with more hustle and toughness.

He is absolutely a young core guy being about 2.5 years older than Sharpe, the same age as Dalton, a year older than Edey and the same age as Silva.

This kid is absolutely the best basketball player on the Blazers roster now.

The 2029 pick is my only worry, but I will need to see if any protections are on it. That being said, I would take Deni over anyone in this draft.

A core of Deni, Scoot, Sharpe and #7 is exciting. Will have 34 and 40 to play with as well.

Additionally, hopefully this means Grant is gone.

I think you could fairly argue that the negative comments so far in this thread have everything to do with the fact that Avdija is Jewish and nothing with who he is as a player, prospect, contract, etc.

I said keep the Palestine-Israel talk to the Current Affairs board.

[GreenRiddler]

He’s a good player and fits a big need we have but I can’t root for a team with a former member of the IDF. I hope we trade him asap.

[The Sebastian Express]

Y'all keep talking about the Israel-Palestine relations I'll start handing out warnings. Take it to the Current Affairs board. If you don't want to root for him, that's your entire right, no judgment. But you don't have to post it here, especially multiple times. Please take it to the Current Affairs board. Thanks.

[monopoman]

Also, is Woj trolling us all at this point... "The Blazers are sending the second most favorable of their 2029 first-round picks"

Can that be any more confusing of a way to word it?

Okay I wasn't aware it was a pick from the future, so yeah thus the weird wording.