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I think taking Dunn over Kolek is a bit similar to Cleveland taking Okoro over Haliburton. Of course they didn't need a guard, but just from a skills standpoint, BPA.
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bwgood77 wrote:I think taking Dunn over Kolek is a bit similar to Cleveland taking Okoro over Haliburton. Of course they didn't need a guard, but just from a skills standpoint, BPA.
Suns will end up getting Kolek and Dunn (Kris)!
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This would be incredibly dumb unless the Suns picked up an additional pick in the 50s' range. And even then, I could list a number of better prospects to consider.
If they pick him at 22, I will not be happy. Though knowing Ish, he will demand we take him.
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Honestly, If the suns take Bronny with the 22nd and Kolek is still on the board I will probably just stop watching them altogether. Sonics are coming back at some point and they aren't the Blazers but still a PNW team. I'll jump.bwgood77 wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:
This would be incredibly dumb unless the Suns picked up an additional pick in the 50s' range. And even then, I could list a number of better prospects to consider.
If they pick him at 22, I will not be happy. Though knowing Ish, he will demand we take him.
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Yeah, just no on Bronny. Kolek makes the most sense by far.
I'd be ok with Dunn, but I'd definitely rather have a better prospect.
And our biggest needs are a ball handler, high iq, leadership guy/PG, and a defensive C. Dunn would only be good enough for garbage minutes now. We'd hope he can contribute in the future, but it would be a toss up.
He seems like a good pick in the 2nd round (or possibly 1st) for a young team with a ton of offensive firepower.
I'd be ok with Dunn, but I'd definitely rather have a better prospect.
And our biggest needs are a ball handler, high iq, leadership guy/PG, and a defensive C. Dunn would only be good enough for garbage minutes now. We'd hope he can contribute in the future, but it would be a toss up.
He seems like a good pick in the 2nd round (or possibly 1st) for a young team with a ton of offensive firepower.
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Hopefully this isn't the Hali thing all over again. Just take whats in front of you and call it a day. If he aint there then trade down or out.bwgood77 wrote:Yeah, just no on Bronny. Kolek makes the most sense by far.
I'd be ok with Dunn, but I'd definitely rather have a better prospect.
And our biggest needs are a ball handler, high iq, leadership guy/PG, and a defensive C. Dunn would only be good enough for garbage minutes now. We'd hope he can contribute in the future, but it would be a toss up.
He seems like a good pick in the 2nd round (or possibly 1st) for a young team with a ton of offensive firepower.
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sunsbum wrote:Hopefully this isn't the Hali thing all over again. Just take whats in front of you and call it a day. If he aint there then trade down or out.bwgood77 wrote:Yeah, just no on Bronny. Kolek makes the most sense by far.
I'd be ok with Dunn, but I'd definitely rather have a better prospect.
And our biggest needs are a ball handler, high iq, leadership guy/PG, and a defensive C. Dunn would only be good enough for garbage minutes now. We'd hope he can contribute in the future, but it would be a toss up.
He seems like a good pick in the 2nd round (or possibly 1st) for a young team with a ton of offensive firepower.
The Haliburton thing really pissed me off. Dude was served to us on a silver platter to take over from Chris Paul after two years of tutelage - instead James Jones had to reach again in the draft and probably had the stones to do it because it paid off with Cam Johnson
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Thought I'd check this comparison since they are about the same height/weight, and I remember similar discussions about phenomenal defense, shot blocking, could guard multiple positions, etc. Clarke leads in most categories, though a bit below in steals, but was significantly better offensively, even though he also struggled with the 3, though not as much and was a lot better FT shooter, even if not great...near 70%. Better defensive rating too along with great TS%. Of course a ton of people wanted Clarke and we had like the 9th pick.


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Are we really expecting a draft pick today?
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bwgood77 wrote:Thought I'd check this comparison since they are about the same height/weight, and I remember similar discussions about phenomenal defense, shot blocking, could guard multiple positions, etc. Clarke leads in most categories, though a bit below in steals, but was significantly better offensively, even though he also struggled with the 3, though not as much and was a lot better FT shooter, even if not great...near 70%. Better defensive rating too along with great TS%. Of course a ton of people wanted Clarke and we had like the 9th pick.
Clarke was also projected to be strictly a big on offense though wasn't he? Bigs have more leeway when it comes to poor shooting as they aren't as expected to spread the floor.
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kennydorglas wrote:Are we really expecting a draft pick today?
it depends if there are any 24- to 25-year-old incoming rookies by the time the Suns get their pick.
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I would post this delusional tweet in the offseason thread, but it's apparently locked????
Anyways, it's crazy that Ishbia says we're competing for an NBA championship when we just got swept in the first freaking round of the playoffs!!! Maybe he means the in season championship or something because we're nowhere close to making the finals and winning an actual championship.


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I would post this delusional tweet in the offseason thread, but it's apparently locked????
Anyways, it's crazy that Ishbia says we're competing for an NBA championship when we just got swept in the first freaking round of the playoffs!!! Maybe he means the in season championship or something because we're nowhere close to making the finals and winning an actual championship.
It's already in that thread. While the draft is going, we are going to keep the offseason trade thread locked

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lilfishi22 wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Thought I'd check this comparison since they are about the same height/weight, and I remember similar discussions about phenomenal defense, shot blocking, could guard multiple positions, etc. Clarke leads in most categories, though a bit below in steals, but was significantly better offensively, even though he also struggled with the 3, though not as much and was a lot better FT shooter, even if not great...near 70%. Better defensive rating too along with great TS%. Of course a ton of people wanted Clarke and we had like the 9th pick.
Clarke was also projected to be strictly a big on offense though wasn't he? Bigs have more leeway when it comes to poor shooting as they aren't as expected to spread the floor.
Not really. I mean I think PF since he could guard them, though he didn't have a great wingspan so some didn't like that (even though if you can avg 4.1 blocks per 36 does it matter?). But maybe Dunn is a bit more of a wing and Clarke a PF, however, Clarke was only .75 inches taller and was 7 lbs lighter.
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With the Blazers trading Brogdon and drafting Clingan, Malcolm and Robert Williams should be available in trade talks.
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Ghost of Kleine wrote:
I would post this delusional tweet in the offseason thread, but it's apparently locked????
Anyways, it's crazy that Ishbia says we're competing for an NBA championship when we just got swept in the first freaking round of the playoffs!!! Maybe he means the in season championship or something because we're nowhere close to making the finals and winning an actual championship.
That's already been posted in it. I locked it because people kept posting about the draft in there and we don't need to check 2 threads since the draft is on RIGHT NOW. I will open it again after the draft. Any trade tonight likely has to do with the draft anyway.
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bwgood77 wrote:Yeah, just no on Bronny. Kolek makes the most sense by far.
I'd be ok with Dunn, but I'd definitely rather have a better prospect.
And our biggest needs are a ball handler, high iq, leadership guy/PG, and a defensive C. Dunn would only be good enough for garbage minutes now. We'd hope he can contribute in the future, but it would be a toss up.
He seems like a good pick in the 2nd round (or possibly 1st) for a young team with a ton of offensive firepower.
Seriously though, saying something like " Dunn would only be good enough to play in garbage time is borderline absurdly hyperbolic when the guy can absolutely lock down the opposing teams best players AND can legitimately defend all 5 positions!! I mean really man.....garbage time minutes?? LOL.. ..


Lol......garbage time minutes! SMH.

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Side take on the Durant rumors, which Mat has 95% squashed, but what if Durant was moved as part of the effort to pull LBJ to the Valley, bring back CP3.
Is the following team better than we are today?
CP3
Beal
Booker
LBJ
Nurkic
If the deal is agreed to in principle, Suns go ahead and grab Bronny in the 2nd round with a pick or picks in a salary dump of Little. We keep #22 to spend on Ware/Missy/Edey. This is a very unlikely scenario, but I wonder if an attempt at something like that stoked the rumor flames. #3 pick, Sengun, Thompson , and HOU players head to LAL to build around Davis.
Is the following team better than we are today?
CP3
Beal
Booker
LBJ
Nurkic
If the deal is agreed to in principle, Suns go ahead and grab Bronny in the 2nd round with a pick or picks in a salary dump of Little. We keep #22 to spend on Ware/Missy/Edey. This is a very unlikely scenario, but I wonder if an attempt at something like that stoked the rumor flames. #3 pick, Sengun, Thompson , and HOU players head to LAL to build around Davis.