WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first

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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#21 » by RollingWave » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:38 am

shorting the Wolves historically has been a good bet

The odds that Dillingham gets traded for two not good first value or more in his career isn’t that high right?

Still just drafting Carter or something would be nice
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#22 » by Vampirate » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:38 am

This is honestly just a weird to see for a Raptors fan.

All last season just to give the pick away to convey....just for the Spurs to trade the pick away again.

Spurs are like........."Naahh"
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#23 » by CS707 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:39 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
Harry Garris wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:Puzzling decision by SAS. They are supposed to be building around Wemby, not Deuce Tatum


What if they just didn’t love any of the prospects left in the draft?


But they see someone they like in the 2031 draft?


Pop’s out there scouting CYO games.
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#24 » by Young gun 6 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:40 am

Eh I like it Twolves and love it for Spurs.

They can flip those trades. Teams have coveted unprotected firsts, it doesn't matter how far into the future they are.

a 2030 swap between spurs and twolves could be a great trade asset. Ant could be gone, Gobert and KAT will likely be cooked by then.
Spurs will be flying with Wemby in 2030. The swap and unprotected 1st could be big trade assets for other teams that bet on Ant leaving in 6-7 years.

The #8 pick in one of the weakest draft classes of all time, which would ordinarily be a pick 15-20 in another draft isn't that much of an asset.

Spurs could easily flip Keldon, Castle, Atlanta's own 2 picks and the 2030 swap and 2031 for Trae Young and be laughing.
Or use those 2 other valuable picks in a trade for Garland with some other pieces attached as well.
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#25 » by Marvin Martian » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:44 am

UcanUwill wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:Puzzling decision by SAS. They are supposed to be building around Wemby, not Deuce Tatum


Your plan is to build with middling guy from 2024 draft? I obviously do not know this kid, but I assume he is not that great, this is a draft where two questionable France guys where first two picks. Spurs got a pick to trade for an actual star PG, a guy who can actually help, or at worst, they got a pick that will most likely lead to them drafting something better in the future.

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But they see someone they like in the 2031 draft?


Well, they probably will when time comes...


The pick is 7 years from now. It is worthless. If you don't like this draft then fine. Get a 2025 or 2026 draft pick that can grow with Wemby. Taking a 2031 pick is beyond dumb.
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#26 » by John Murdoch » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:45 am

Wemby has to be pissed...maybe Kawhi was right
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#27 » by CS707 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:46 am

Young gun 6 wrote:Teams have coveted unprotected firsts, it doesn't matter how far into the future they are.


How many front offices have the job security to value a draft pick 7 years in the future though? I don’t think it even has the value of the pick they traded to get it for 3-4 years or more.
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#28 » by TimDunkin » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:47 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:Puzzling decision by SAS. They are supposed to be building around Wemby, not Deuce Tatum


Your plan is to build with middling guy from 2024 draft? I obviously do not know this kid, but I assume he is not that great, this is a draft where two questionable France guys where first two picks. Spurs got a pick to trade for an actual star PG, a guy who can actually help, or at worst, they got a pick that will most likely lead to them drafting something better in the future.

Marvin Martian wrote:
But they see someone they like in the 2031 draft?


Well, they probably will when time comes...


The pick is 7 years from now. It is worthless. If you don't like this draft then fine. Get a 2025 or 2026 draft pick that can grow with Wemby. Taking a 2031 pick is beyond dumb.


Who was offering a 2025 or 2026 pick?
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#29 » by Rust_Cohle » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:49 am

Spurs get 8M in cap space this year, could use the future picks for another trade.

Minnesota luxury tax bill increases from $56M to $84M with the selection of Rob Dillingham. An aggressive move for a Minnesota team that returns the same starting 5 but was faced with limited options in free agency.
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#30 » by UcanUwill » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:50 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:Puzzling decision by SAS. They are supposed to be building around Wemby, not Deuce Tatum


Your plan is to build with middling guy from 2024 draft? I obviously do not know this kid, but I assume he is not that great, this is a draft where two questionable France guys where first two picks. Spurs got a pick to trade for an actual star PG, a guy who can actually help, or at worst, they got a pick that will most likely lead to them drafting something better in the future.

Marvin Martian wrote:
But they see someone they like in the 2031 draft?


Well, they probably will when time comes...


The pick is 7 years from now. It is worthless. If you don't like this draft then fine. Get a 2025 or 2026 draft pick that can grow with Wemby. Taking a 2031 pick is beyond dumb.


It is literally not worthless, lets start from here. We do not even know yet what they will do with that asset yet, it can be flipped in few days. But people complaining the team drafted out of all time bad draft is beyond ridiculous.
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#31 » by Blame Rasho » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:51 am

I expect a lot of players in this draft to be busts, I hope that castle isn’t one and wishDilly well in Minny but the picks have to be a part of something bigger via trade.
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#32 » by funkatron101 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:51 am

I don't think I've ever seen a trade like this.
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#33 » by BayAreaDub » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:55 am

Makes sense to me

TWolves were limited on options to improve and liked Dillingham

Spurs didn’t like anyone in this weak draft and gamble on a future unprotected for later

Would’ve been more surprising in any other draft
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#34 » by Chinook » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:55 am

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Young gun 6 wrote:Teams have coveted unprotected firsts, it doesn't matter how far into the future they are.


How many front offices have the job security to value a draft pick 7 years in the future though? I don’t think it even has the value of the pick they traded to get it for 3-4 years or more.


Wright shouldn't feel that security. Ignoring off-the-court stuff, he hasn't shown any track record to warrant any assumption that he'll be around in years. Even Buford shouldn't be able to point to a title the team won literally 10 years ago as evidence.

When push comes to shove, if the Spurs only like 7 or fewer guys in this draft, their scouts suck. There should be another player who was worth the pick. One will probably end up cropping up. It was on the Spurs to find such a player -- that's the path they chose. It's horrendous that they think they should be able to keep punting value while mediocre or worse prospects like Wesley and Branham continue to linger in the rotation with zero accountability.
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#35 » by jack612 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:00 am

I imagine the Spurs value the pick as something they can package up with a bunch of other picks to trade for another star at some point. I doubt they're making the trade to plan for 2031. I really like it as a Wolves fan but I think it's going to be good for both teams.
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Post#36 » by Blame Rasho » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:01 am

Chinook wrote:
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Young gun 6 wrote:Teams have coveted unprotected firsts, it doesn't matter how far into the future they are.


How many front offices have the job security to value a draft pick 7 years in the future though? I don’t think it even has the value of the pick they traded to get it for 3-4 years or more.


Wright shouldn't feel that security. Ignoring off-the-court stuff, he hasn't shown any track record to warrant any assumption that he'll be around in years. Even Buford shouldn't be able to point to a title the team won literally 10 years ago as evidence.

When push comes to shove, if the Spurs only like 7 or fewer guys in this draft, their scouts suck. There should be another player who was worth the pick. One will probably end up cropping up. It was on the Spurs to find such a player -- that's the path they chose. It's horrendous that they think they should be able to keep punting value while mediocre or worse prospects like Wesley and Branham continue to linger in the rotation with zero accountability.


His draft record leaves much to be desired like you said.

I hope to see a trade for some additional help.
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#37 » by durden_tyler » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:02 am

i guess Spurs just did not want the additional salary? Not doubting their plans at all, just dumb to do that. This is nothing now but their next moves should be scary for the league.
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#38 » by FarBeyondDriven » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:02 am

Effigy wrote:That's a crazy trade for the Spurs. They're going to wait SEVEN years to get some help for Wemby?!



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that 2031 pick will likely be top 5 as KAT, Gobert and Edwards will be long gone and they'll revert to being an NBA doormat organization. It also gives them a valuable asset to use in trades. Once again, Spurs playing Chess. Short-term it's excellent for the Wolves as it gives them a dynamic scorer to take the load off Edwards. Spurs have multiple picks in the 2nd round and this is a very deep draft of role players so they'll get contributors.
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Post#39 » by Effigy » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:04 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:
Effigy wrote:That's a crazy trade for the Spurs. They're going to wait SEVEN years to get some help for Wemby?!



Read on Twitter


that 2031 pick will likely be top 5 as KAT, Gobert and Edwards will be long gone and they'll revert to being an NBA doormat organization. It also gives them a valuable asset to use in trades. Once again, Spurs playing Chess. Short-term it's excellent for the Wolves as it gives them a dynamic scorer to take the load off Edwards. Spurs have multiple picks in the 2nd round and this is a very deep draft of role players so they'll get contributors.


The thing is, Wemby wants to win now, not in 7 years. I can’t imagine he likes this move. Edwards isn’t the only one who could be done by 2031….
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Post#40 » by Blame Rasho » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:05 am

durden_tyler wrote:i guess Spurs just did not want the additional salary? Not doubting their plans at all, just dumb to do that. This is nothing now but their next moves should be scary for the league.


It could very well blow up in their face. Their recent draft record is meh.

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