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Re: Woj: Claxton to re-sign with Nets 4yrs/$100 mil 

Post#21 » by ConSarnit » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:28 am

Duffman100 wrote:People clearly don't watch Claxton. He's ... incredibly frustrating.


Yeah, this is a tough call. Is Claxton tradable for value at $25m per? Because he pretty much needs to be for this to make sense considering the Nets are clearly tanking for the next 2 years. This seems borderline for me.
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Post#22 » by JB7 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:36 am

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Duffman100 wrote:People clearly don't watch Claxton. He's ... incredibly frustrating.


Yeah, this is a tough call. Is Claxton tradable for value at $25m per? Because he pretty much needs to be for this to make sense considering the Nets are clearly tanking for the next 2 years. This seems borderline for me.


They need to get to the salary floor to be eligible for luxury tax payments.

Somebody has to get paid by the Nets
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Post#23 » by SharoneWright » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:40 am

Furphy, as a freshman, made a bad choice coming out of college. Not gonna be first round.

My rooting College interest could’ve used him next year. Oh well.
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Post#24 » by ForeverTFC » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:43 am

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Brinbe wrote:That Yak deal's gonna look like a relative bargain in the next few years once these other Cs start to get paid. Gonna remain an attractive trade asset whether he's dealt this year or next.

I don't think this contract changes anything. 5m AAV more than Jak and he's 4 years younger, I'd say this is pretty much on par with Jaks while paying a premium for youth.


How much Claxton do you watch? Jak is a much better, more complete, and a lot more dependable of a player.
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Re: Woj: Claxton to re-sign with Nets 4yrs/$100 mil 

Post#25 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:57 am

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Brinbe wrote:That Yak deal's gonna look like a relative bargain in the next few years once these other Cs start to get paid. Gonna remain an attractive trade asset whether he's dealt this year or next.

I don't think this contract changes anything. 5m AAV more than Jak and he's 4 years younger, I'd say this is pretty much on par with Jaks while paying a premium for youth.


How much Claxton do you watch? Jak is a much better, more complete, and a lot more dependable of a player.

3 times a year he plays Toronto most likely, lets be honest :lol:
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Post#26 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:57 am

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Brinbe wrote:That Yak deal's gonna look like a relative bargain in the next few years once these other Cs start to get paid. Gonna remain an attractive trade asset whether he's dealt this year or next.


He's going to look relatively washed pretty soon, based on how the 5 spot is evolving. That contract better offset the lack of mobility and FT shooting.

Whenever I see people say Jakob lacks mobility I really wonder what they are watching. dude is actually quite nimble for a 7'1 guy
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Re: Woj: Claxton to re-sign with Nets 4yrs/$100 mil 

Post#27 » by Scase » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:08 am

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Brinbe wrote:That Yak deal's gonna look like a relative bargain in the next few years once these other Cs start to get paid. Gonna remain an attractive trade asset whether he's dealt this year or next.

I don't think this contract changes anything. 5m AAV more than Jak and he's 4 years younger, I'd say this is pretty much on par with Jaks while paying a premium for youth.


How much Claxton do you watch? Jak is a much better, more complete, and a lot more dependable of a player.

Oh I'm not doubting he is, I'm just saying you will virtually always be paying a premium for youth. 2 identical players in impact will always have the older one being cheaper for pretty much that sole reason. Claxton is far from a world beater centre, but he is noticeably younger is all.
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Post#28 » by ForeverTFC » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:17 am

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Scase wrote:I don't think this contract changes anything. 5m AAV more than Jak and he's 4 years younger, I'd say this is pretty much on par with Jaks while paying a premium for youth.


How much Claxton do you watch? Jak is a much better, more complete, and a lot more dependable of a player.

Oh I'm not doubting he is, I'm just saying you will virtually always be paying a premium for youth. 2 identical players in impact will always have the older one being cheaper for pretty much that sole reason. Claxton is far from a world beater centre, but he is noticeably younger is all.


My bad. I thought you were saying they were comparable players. Yeah, Claxton is getting the youth bump, but he's also getting a premium from the Nets as they'll need to hit the salary cap for a few years here while they tank.
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Re: Woj: Claxton to re-sign with Nets 4yrs/$100 mil 

Post#29 » by mdenny » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:24 am

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will wrote:
Brinbe wrote:That Yak deal's gonna look like a relative bargain in the next few years once these other Cs start to get paid. Gonna remain an attractive trade asset whether he's dealt this year or next.


He's going to look relatively washed pretty soon, based on how the 5 spot is evolving. That contract better offset the lack of mobility and FT shooting.

Whenever I see people say Jakob lacks mobility I really wonder what they are watching. dude is actually quite nimble for a 7'1 guy


His mobility is the precise reason why he is so good at defending pnr.
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Post#30 » by Scase » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:26 am

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How much Claxton do you watch? Jak is a much better, more complete, and a lot more dependable of a player.

Oh I'm not doubting he is, I'm just saying you will virtually always be paying a premium for youth. 2 identical players in impact will always have the older one being cheaper for pretty much that sole reason. Claxton is far from a world beater centre, but he is noticeably younger is all.


My bad. I thought you were saying they were comparable players. Yeah, Claxton is getting the youth bump, but he's also getting a premium from the Nets as they'll need to hit the salary cap for a few years here while they tank.

All good, I probably should've been a bit clearer, but yeah strictly about the contract itself. I honestly don't have many issues with Jaks game aside from his lack of range, his contract is fine, etc. I just hated the acquisition cost is all.
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Post#31 » by truballer_101 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:51 am

Let Me Ask A Question to Everyone here.. Claxton is gone... he was available in some Ppl's Minds... Would you Rather have Jak or Hartenstein at/on Jak's Contract
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Re: Woj: Claxton to re-sign with Nets 4yrs/$100 mil 

Post#32 » by will » Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:02 am

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will wrote:
He's going to look relatively washed pretty soon, based on how the 5 spot is evolving. That contract better offset the lack of mobility and FT shooting.

Whenever I see people say Jakob lacks mobility I really wonder what they are watching. dude is actually quite nimble for a 7'1 guy


His mobility is the precise reason why he is so good at defending pnr.


That defending pnr hasn't done much in terms of results for the Raptors.
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Post#33 » by Shakril » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:01 pm

Brinbe wrote:That Yak deal's gonna look like a relative bargain in the next few years once these other Cs start to get paid. Gonna remain an attractive trade asset whether he's dealt this year or next.



Yep. That was evident when the deal was made. His bad luck was, that he never was at a good team so there never was a spotlight on him. Thats why he is cheaper, but not worse.
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Post#34 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:45 pm

will wrote:
mdenny wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Whenever I see people say Jakob lacks mobility I really wonder what they are watching. dude is actually quite nimble for a 7'1 guy


His mobility is the precise reason why he is so good at defending pnr.


That defending pnr hasn't done much in terms of results for the Raptors.

So the entire teams problem is on Jak? :lol:
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Post#35 » by Appostis » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:11 pm

Duffman100 wrote:People clearly don't watch Claxton. He's ... incredibly frustrating.

And overrated..don't forget incredibly overrated...
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Post#36 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:19 pm

truballer_101 wrote:Let Me Ask A Question to Everyone here.. Claxton is gone... he was available in some Ppl's Minds... Would you Rather have Jak or Hartenstein at/on Jak's Contract

Jakob. Hartenstein is getting wildly overrated here.
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Post#37 » by PushDaRock » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:33 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
truballer_101 wrote:Let Me Ask A Question to Everyone here.. Claxton is gone... he was available in some Ppl's Minds... Would you Rather have Jak or Hartenstein at/on Jak's Contract

Jakob. Hartenstein is getting wildly overrated here.


Jak would be a lot more highly regarded among fans if he had a playoff run as a meaningful contributor, just look at how Gafford's stock went up as well. No reason to believe Jak's game wouldn't translate over well in the playoffs when it becomes more of a half court game.
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Post#38 » by TorontoBarneys » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:37 pm

I've made my peace with Poeltl and his contract itself is a very solid one. Hartenstein will probably end up overpaid.

I don't care nearly as much on missing out on a lottery pick in this year's draft as I did us sliding out of 6th for the actual strong '23 draft, but history is history and I don't want to sound like a broken record.

Glad we have Poeltl on the team moving forward and whether or not he's of help to the team, he is undoubtedly an asset for Masai. There will be value extracted, one way or another.
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Post#39 » by Scase » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:03 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
truballer_101 wrote:Let Me Ask A Question to Everyone here.. Claxton is gone... he was available in some Ppl's Minds... Would you Rather have Jak or Hartenstein at/on Jak's Contract

Jakob. Hartenstein is getting wildly overrated here.


Jak would be a lot more highly regarded among fans if he had a playoff run as a meaningful contributor, just look at how Gafford's stock went up as well. No reason to believe Jak's game wouldn't translate over well in the playoffs when it becomes more of a half court game.

I think it's a bit of a wash, I give Jak the edge, but I dont think the gap is massive. But by the very fact of the cap going up, IH will likely get more money, which should presumably make Jaks contract look like a better value. But Jak has always been on awful teams, so I'm not sure how well other FOs would be concerned about it not translating. I think trading Jak after IH gets a new contract might be a solid play to extract some more value.

I think the potential return is more valuable to the team than him being here, and maybe this makes that a more attractive option.
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Re: Woj: Claxton to re-sign with Nets 4yrs/$100 mil 

Post#40 » by Tripod » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:16 pm

If Yak was in the NY spotlight, he would be getting 25-30 million per.

OG is the same guy now as he was for the Raps but we all witnessed the drooling over his game once he was in a bigger spotlight in NY.

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