(Lock Thread)The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
Moderators: Doctor MJ, trex_8063, penbeast0, PaulieWal, Clyde Frazier
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
- Mos_Heat
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,623
- And1: 36,993
- Joined: Jan 12, 2016
- Location: Meh
-
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
The question is what can they get for one pick and mid salary fillers. I don't expect much
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
- zimpy27
- Forum Mod

- Posts: 45,795
- And1: 44,054
- Joined: Jul 13, 2014
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
Knecht is a great pick and I expect him to be able to start by ASB...
Reaves for Murray or Smart might make sense now..
Reaves for Murray or Smart might make sense now..
"Let's play some basketball!" - Fergie
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
-
Slava
- Retired Mod

- Posts: 61,148
- And1: 33,845
- Joined: Oct 15, 2006
-
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
Bogdan Bogdanovic and Dejounte Murray from Atlanta is the trade. We might also have to eat Hunter’s contract but that wouldn’t be too bad as I think he could have a role in a more settled system.
+
= Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
-
nzahir
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,594
- And1: 5,089
- Joined: Nov 04, 2017
-
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
zimpy27 wrote:Knecht is a great pick and I expect him to be able to start by ASB...
Reaves for Murray or Smart might make sense now..
Reported that we are not moving Reaves unless its for a true all star
Not moving Reaves for Smart since we then have no guard who is going to attack the rim really
You look to add one of those guys next to Reaves, not move Reaves
Knecht is still a rookie, so lets hold our horses
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
-
nzahir
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,594
- And1: 5,089
- Joined: Nov 04, 2017
-
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
Mos_Heat wrote:The question is what can they get for one pick and mid salary fillers. I don't expect much
Well we have 2 picks if we want
Plus swaps, JHS, and Christie
Unsure where JHS and Christie fit here
Need a true positive impact guy alongside Reaves, the rookie, and DLO?/his replacement
I can see Christie maybe since he has the defensive tools, but probably need a guy mroe ready now
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
- Mos_Heat
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,623
- And1: 36,993
- Joined: Jan 12, 2016
- Location: Meh
-
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
nzahir wrote:Mos_Heat wrote:The question is what can they get for one pick and mid salary fillers. I don't expect much
Well we have 2 picks if we want
Plus swaps, JHS, and Christie
Unsure where JHS and Christie fit here
Need a true positive impact guy alongside Reaves, the rookie, and DLO?/his replacement
I can see Christie maybe since he has the defensive tools, but probably need a guy mroe ready now
I can't see them trading entire draft capital, just not the kind of move this FO would do
JHS is worth a 2nd he's not swinging trade discussions, swaps have uknown value generally
I think they move a top 7-10 protected pick for a some combination of Brooklyn players, maybe Grant/Kuz. The only interesting thing is what will happen with Russell. If he leaves they would have to find another guard with the full MLE
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
-
nzahir
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,594
- And1: 5,089
- Joined: Nov 04, 2017
-
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
Mos_Heat wrote:nzahir wrote:Mos_Heat wrote:The question is what can they get for one pick and mid salary fillers. I don't expect much
Well we have 2 picks if we want
Plus swaps, JHS, and Christie
Unsure where JHS and Christie fit here
Need a true positive impact guy alongside Reaves, the rookie, and DLO?/his replacement
I can see Christie maybe since he has the defensive tools, but probably need a guy mroe ready now
I can't see them trading entire draft capital, just not the kind of move this FO would do
JHS is worth a 2nd he's not swinging trade discussions, swaps have uknown value generally
I think they move a top 7-10 protected pick for a some combination of Brooklyn players, maybe Grant/Kuz. The only interesting thing is what will happen with Russell. If he leaves they would have to find another guard with the full MLE
Yup we need to know what happens with Dlo, changes the way you can approach things
Deadline is on Sat for him I think
Really need him to opt in for the salary purposes
Bt if he doesn't and we got the full mle, is Derozan in play?
Not an ideal fit, but a good mid range shooter and should be a super 6th man off the bench
Not sure if I am super interested in Grant, overrated as a defender, expensive, and still doesn't give you that guard who can score by putting pressure on the rim and shooting
Definitely pass on Kuzma
Cam Johnson is my target if its a role guy
If its a "star" I can see why Lavine makes sense. Should cost no real assets and they get salary relief
I still just dont see how DJM is that guy, but would love to be proven wrong
And if we aren;'t giving up Reaves, does Atlanta want a package around our 29 1st (unprotected), 31 1st (somewhat protected), JHS, and some sort of combo of Vincent, Rui, Vando, Dlo?
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
- zimpy27
- Forum Mod

- Posts: 45,795
- And1: 44,054
- Joined: Jul 13, 2014
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
nzahir wrote:Mos_Heat wrote:The question is what can they get for one pick and mid salary fillers. I don't expect much
Well we have 2 picks if we want
Plus swaps, JHS, and Christie
Unsure where JHS and Christie fit here
Need a true positive impact guy alongside Reaves, the rookie, and DLO?/his replacement
I can see Christie maybe since he has the defensive tools, but probably need a guy mroe ready now
These are the guys that I'm most certain will be on the Lakers
LeBron, Davis, JHS, Knecht, Christie, Bronny
Not sure who else will be on the Lakers next season but the above guys are just going to be valued more by Lakers than other teams.
"Let's play some basketball!" - Fergie
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
- Mos_Heat
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,623
- And1: 36,993
- Joined: Jan 12, 2016
- Location: Meh
-
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
nzahir wrote:Mos_Heat wrote:nzahir wrote:Well we have 2 picks if we want
Plus swaps, JHS, and Christie
Unsure where JHS and Christie fit here
Need a true positive impact guy alongside Reaves, the rookie, and DLO?/his replacement
I can see Christie maybe since he has the defensive tools, but probably need a guy mroe ready now
I can't see them trading entire draft capital, just not the kind of move this FO would do
JHS is worth a 2nd he's not swinging trade discussions, swaps have uknown value generally
I think they move a top 7-10 protected pick for a some combination of Brooklyn players, maybe Grant/Kuz. The only interesting thing is what will happen with Russell. If he leaves they would have to find another guard with the full MLE
Yup we need to know what happens with Dlo, changes the way you can approach things
Deadline is on Sat for him I think
Really need him to opt in for the salary purposes
Bt if he doesn't and we got the full mle, is Derozan in play?
Not an ideal fit, but a good mid range shooter and should be a super 6th man off the bench
Not sure if I am super interested in Grant, overrated as a defender, expensive, and still doesn't give you that guard who can score by putting pressure on the rim and shooting
Definitely pass on Kuzma
Cam Johnson is my target if its a role guy
If its a "star" I can see why Lavine makes sense. Should cost no real assets and they get salary relief
I still just dont see how DJM is that guy, but would love to be proven wrong
And if we aren;'t giving up Reaves, does Atlanta want a package around our 29 1st (unprotected), 31 1st (somewhat protected), JHS, and some sort of combo of Vincent, Rui, Vando, Dlo?
Probably not after Bridges and Avdija deals
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
-
Slava
- Retired Mod

- Posts: 61,148
- And1: 33,845
- Joined: Oct 15, 2006
-
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
I can see New Orleans overpaying for Murray. Griffins ass will be on the firing line again after a disappointing end to last season.
+
= Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
- homecourtloss
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,527
- And1: 18,922
- Joined: Dec 29, 2012
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
Slava wrote:I can see New Orleans overpaying for Murray. Griffins ass will be on the firing line again after a disappointing end to last season.
They needed to deal Ingram when he had massive value, but were unsure whether or not Zion would fat himself out of he NBA.
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.
lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
- homecourtloss
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,527
- And1: 18,922
- Joined: Dec 29, 2012
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
eminence wrote:https://psteve.shinyapps.io/RAPM/
Was meaning to post this for a while.
Old man LeBron at #13 for the NPI 2023-2024 season and in the 86th percentile on defense is ludicrous. Top 5 for the age interval of 35-39 is bonkers.
AD at 76th, Curry at 87th.
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.
lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
-
Ian Scuffling
- Senior
- Posts: 679
- And1: 476
- Joined: Dec 21, 2012
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
So, the Knecht kid is a shooter? Well, that's good as they need them. But, obviously no needle moving there. I have to admit that if I was a Lakers fan first and a Lebron fan second and if he signs a 3 year max deal, I'd be a little upset, myself. Especially, if they draft Bronny. At the same time, he really hasn't fallen off that much yet and seems like he's staving off father time in a ridiculous way. It really is too bad they **** up so badly team building after winning a championship.
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
-
nzahir
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,594
- And1: 5,089
- Joined: Nov 04, 2017
-
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
[Moore] The Kings, Pacers, Hornets, and Lakers are among teams interested in Nets forward Cam Johnson
Would it be a good off season if we traded for Cam Johnson, drafted Knecht, got a stretch 5/somewhat stretch 5 (Olynyk, Reath, Brook Lopez, WCJ etc), and either still have Dlo or was able to replace him with Cp3 (vet min) or Derozan (mle?)
Would it be a good off season if we traded for Cam Johnson, drafted Knecht, got a stretch 5/somewhat stretch 5 (Olynyk, Reath, Brook Lopez, WCJ etc), and either still have Dlo or was able to replace him with Cp3 (vet min) or Derozan (mle?)
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
-
TroubleS0me
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,225
- And1: 6,388
- Joined: Dec 17, 2014
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
- zimpy27
- Forum Mod

- Posts: 45,795
- And1: 44,054
- Joined: Jul 13, 2014
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
Imagine ejaculating out a co-worker
"Let's play some basketball!" - Fergie
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
-
nzahir
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,594
- And1: 5,089
- Joined: Nov 04, 2017
-
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
I don't think we will ever see an all star player still in the league while his son is drafted
I don't think Bronny is ready to do anything of value, but I wonder if he may better than JHS soon lol
Still a cool moment, hopefully they share a moment in a game together
I was really hoping Bron would go elsewhere, but seems like this is it
So hopefully the Lakers actually do right by him and push in some chips
I don't think Bronny is ready to do anything of value, but I wonder if he may better than JHS soon lol
Still a cool moment, hopefully they share a moment in a game together
I was really hoping Bron would go elsewhere, but seems like this is it
So hopefully the Lakers actually do right by him and push in some chips
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
-
rk2023
- Starter
- Posts: 2,266
- And1: 2,273
- Joined: Jul 01, 2022
-
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
zimpy27 wrote:Imagine ejaculating out a co-worker
I mean in today’s world - fathers and sons sharing an employer is quite frequent tbch (don’t mean to derail this with a whole another convo).
Mogspan wrote:I think they see the super rare combo of high IQ with freakish athleticism and overrate the former a bit, kind of like a hot girl who is rather articulate being thought of as “super smart.” I don’t know kind of a weird analogy, but you catch my drift.
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
-
Mickey8
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,376
- And1: 5,233
- Joined: Jan 21, 2017
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
Bronny James is the worst and the most shameful Draft pick in the NBA history. The only reason he was drafted is Lebron James and that wanna be mafioso Rich Paul. They took the joy away from some players who really work hard and have some talent and who were waiting for this moment all of their lives. This is another reason why Jordan is above Lebron, he would have never done crap like this with his talent less son's. This is just another black eye for the NBA.
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
-
PistolPeteJR
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,681
- And1: 10,464
- Joined: Jun 14, 2017
-
Re: The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)
Mickey8 wrote:Bronny James is the worst and the most shameful Draft pick in the NBA history. The only reason he was drafted is Lebron James and that wanna be mafioso Rich Paul. They took the joy away from some players who really work hard and have some talent and who deserved to be drafted. This is another reason why Jordan is above Lebron, he would have never done crap like this with his talent less son's. This just another black eye for the NBA.
Jordan's sons couldn't even sniff professional basketball lol...
That said, not sure what MJ has to do with any of this, but great job making it about him!


