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With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter!

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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#441 » by XTC » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:57 pm

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XTC wrote:I definitely see the powell comparisons.

Walter measured an inch bigger, and powell jumps an inch higher. Both players measured near the top of their draft athletically.

Man the Raptors drafting from 2015-2017 was so elite.
2015: Delon Wright, Norman Powell
2016: Siakam, Poeltl, FVV
2017: OG

It's no wonder we won the 2019 championship.


I mean, we might be saying the same thing about Barnes, Dick, Walters in a few years.


You forgot to add Cooper Flagg
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Post#442 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:57 pm

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:If only Masai had the courage to trade with SA to take Edey

Memphis almost shut down his workout halfway through because he was too physically dominant against the guys they put him up against.

A Utah Jazz insider two weeks ago leaked and deleted a comment how the Jazz brass were saying his workout was "child abuse".

Masai's new "vision" better work because there was no excuse to not take Edey and build around him.


I mean, there was the excuse that they didn't have the pick to take him.


They could have figured something out. Minny didn't pay a price that I would deem unacceptable to get Edey, especially considering they paid it knowing Anthony Edwards will be only like 29 when that unprotected pick is awarded. Raps could have done the trade with a few more protections and sweetened the deal somehow. Where there is a will there is a way. You move mountains to get a mountain mover.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#443 » by Duffman100 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:57 pm

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XTC wrote:I definitely see the powell comparisons.

Walter measured an inch bigger, and powell jumps an inch higher. Both players measured near the top of their draft athletically.

Man the Raptors drafting from 2015-2017 was so elite.
2015: Delon Wright, Norman Powell
2016: Siakam, Poeltl, FVV
2017: OG

It's no wonder we won the 2019 championship.


I mean, we might be saying the same thing about Barnes, Dick, Walters in a few years.


You forgot to add Cooper Flagg


At this point, we're looking like a 30-35 win team. So bring it on :lol:
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Post#444 » by Duffman100 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:58 pm

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:If only Masai had the courage to trade with SA to take Edey

Memphis almost shut down his workout halfway through because he was too physically dominant against the guys they put him up against.

A Utah Jazz insider two weeks ago leaked and deleted a comment how the Jazz brass were saying his workout was "child abuse".

Masai's new "vision" better work because there was no excuse to not take Edey and build around him.


I mean, there was the excuse that they didn't have the pick to take him.


They could have figured something out. Minny didn't pay a price that I would deem unacceptable to get Edey, especially considering they paid it knowing Anthony Edwards will be only like 29 when that unprotected pick is awarded. Raps could have done the trade with a few more protections and sweetened the deal somehow. Where there is a will there is a way. You move mountains to get a mountain mover.


Sure, I'm just saying there is a clear excuse :lol:
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Post#445 » by nikster » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:58 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:If only Masai had the courage to trade with SA to take Edey

Memphis almost shut down his workout halfway through because he was too physically dominant against the guys they put him up against.

A Utah Jazz insider two weeks ago leaked and deleted a comment how the Jazz brass were saying his workout was "child abuse".

Masai's new "vision" better work because there was no excuse to not take Edey and build around him.


I mean, there was the excuse that they didn't have the pick to take him.

Also imagine Raptors trade up for Edey and he turns out to be a bust or mediocre.
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Post#446 » by Badonkadonk » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:00 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Warming up to Walter. Didnt focus too much didnt think he would alide this far. Just like gradey. Walter can be a premium role player for us if things check out. Anything better than that at 19 would be a home run. Still lots of upside at just 19. Efficiency is always a question but we’ve seen a lot of guys taken with poor FG%. Raps banking on darko system to clean that up which it will. Solid pick at 19 and i like bpa approach

Same, I thought they'd go big and spent a lot of time on Ware / Missi / Holmes (I still think Holmes is going to be good).

Look at vids now, he's a hooper. I see why he was regarded as a lottery guy coming out of HS. He led Baylor in scoring as a freshman, just ahead of a 5 year senior. His wingspan diff is pretty absurd and fits the deflections emphasis the Raps (and much of the league) has had. I don't really get the criticisms on his scoring, 34% from 3 on high volume as a 19yr old freshman is a really good baseline. He's young and seems to have a lot of room for growth.

Solid pick.
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Post#447 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:00 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:If only Masai had the courage to trade with SA to take Edey

Memphis almost shut down his workout halfway through because he was too physically dominant against the guys they put him up against.

A Utah Jazz insider two weeks ago leaked and deleted a comment how the Jazz brass were saying his workout was "child abuse".

Masai's new "vision" better work because there was no excuse to not take Edey and build around him.


I mean, there was the excuse that they didn't have the pick to take him.


They could have figured something out. Minny didn't pay a price that I would deem unacceptable to get Edey, especially considering they paid it knowing Anthony Edwards will be only like 29 when that unprotected pick is awarded. Raps could have done the trade with a few more protections and sweetened the deal somehow. Where there is a will there is a way. You move mountains to get a mountain mover.

If we traded potentially two future firsts for Edey in a weak class there would have been people BLASTING Masai :lol:

Imagine if Edey absolutely flops, and we gave up two future firsts to get him. That would be horrible.
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Post#448 » by tdotrep2 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:00 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:I love how the media is declaring the Lakers the biggest winners of the draft. It's going to be hilarious when they realize Knecht is a bust. When Pelinka is the only GM to have the guy in his top-10, that's a pretty big red flag.

pretty much the same as cam whitmore last year and a lot of teams are kicking themselves. You could hate the favoritism they get all you want but if we are being objective they came out great with the pick
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Post#449 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:01 pm

The only thing that is exciting about Walter to me is that he was able to go on short bursts of crazy output and has a high FTr.

I remember not being able to watch some of the Baylor games and was following the live scores and Walter had numerous stretches where the game looked like

-Ja'Kobe Walter made 3 point attempt
-Foul on xxxx
-Ja'Kobe Walter hits free throw (1 of 2)
-Ja'Kobe Walter hits free throw (2 of 2)
-Ja'Kobe Walter made layup
-Ja'Kobe Walter missed jump shot
-Ja'Kobe Walter made 3 point attempt
-Ja'Kobe Walter missed layup
-Foul on xxxx
-Ja'Kobe Walter made free throw (1 of 2)
-Ja'Kobe Walter made free throw (2 of 2)
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Post#450 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:02 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:
I mean, there was the excuse that they didn't have the pick to take him.


They could have figured something out. Minny didn't pay a price that I would deem unacceptable to get Edey, especially considering they paid it knowing Anthony Edwards will be only like 29 when that unprotected pick is awarded. Raps could have done the trade with a few more protections and sweetened the deal somehow. Where there is a will there is a way. You move mountains to get a mountain mover.

If we traded potentially two future firsts for Edey in a weak class there would have been people BLASTING Masai :lol:

Imagine if Edey absolutely flops, and we gave up two future firsts to get him. That would be horrible.


He's not going to flop and the trade was only one unprotected pick and a pick swap.
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Post#451 » by Tor_Raps » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:03 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
XTC wrote:I definitely see the powell comparisons.

Walter measured an inch bigger, and powell jumps an inch higher. Both players measured near the top of their draft athletically.

Man the Raptors drafting from 2015-2017 was so elite.
2015: Delon Wright, Norman Powell
2016: Siakam, Poeltl, FVV
2017: OG

It's no wonder we won the 2019 championship.


I mean, we might be saying the same thing about Barnes, Dick, Walters in a few years.


Difference was that we were adding those guys to a 50 win team led by Demar/Lowry lol
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Post#452 » by mtcan » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:03 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:
XTC wrote:I definitely see the powell comparisons.

Walter measured an inch bigger, and powell jumps an inch higher. Both players measured near the top of their draft athletically.

Man the Raptors drafting from 2015-2017 was so elite.
2015: Delon Wright, Norman Powell
2016: Siakam, Poeltl, FVV
2017: OG

It's no wonder we won the 2019 championship.


I mean, we might be saying the same thing about Barnes, Dick, Walters in a few years.


You forgot to add Cooper Flagg

You think we out-tanking Brooklyn, Washington and Detroit?

Not happening.
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Post#453 » by hyper316 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:04 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Warming up to Walter. Didnt focus too much didnt think he would alide this far. Just like gradey. Walter can be a premium role player for us if things check out. Anything better than that at 19 would be a home run. Still lots of upside at just 19. Efficiency is always a question but we’ve seen a lot of guys taken with poor FG%. Raps banking on darko system to clean that up which it will. Solid pick at 19 and i like bpa approach


If Darko can do to Kobe to RJ limit to drives and 3s only no midrange, may see his efficiency go way up. Kobe gets to the line at high clip and his 3pt shot release/quickness with movement looks better than gradey to me
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Post#454 » by Duffman100 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:05 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:
XTC wrote:I definitely see the powell comparisons.

Walter measured an inch bigger, and powell jumps an inch higher. Both players measured near the top of their draft athletically.

Man the Raptors drafting from 2015-2017 was so elite.
2015: Delon Wright, Norman Powell
2016: Siakam, Poeltl, FVV
2017: OG

It's no wonder we won the 2019 championship.


I mean, we might be saying the same thing about Barnes, Dick, Walters in a few years.


Difference was that we were adding those guys to a 50 win team led by Demar/Lowry lol


They weren't quite a 50 win team yet, but yeah I hear ya.
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Post#455 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:08 pm

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They could have figured something out. Minny didn't pay a price that I would deem unacceptable to get Edey, especially considering they paid it knowing Anthony Edwards will be only like 29 when that unprotected pick is awarded. Raps could have done the trade with a few more protections and sweetened the deal somehow. Where there is a will there is a way. You move mountains to get a mountain mover.

If we traded potentially two future firsts for Edey in a weak class there would have been people BLASTING Masai :lol:

Imagine if Edey absolutely flops, and we gave up two future firsts to get him. That would be horrible.


He's not going to flop and the trade was only one unprotected pick and a pick swap.

That is a very definitive statement. Most #9 picks do not end up that great, and he was a #9 pick in a weak draft. The sad reality is that he is just as likely to flop as he is to succeed.

There is legit causes for concern with Edey.

7'5" guys have issues staying healthy
Can he play defence?
Etc.

FWIW - I like Edey and think the concerns are overblown. That being said, you cant act like it is a definite fact he will succceed.

And yeah... it was an unprotected 1st and a swap. So potentially (essentially) two firsts if SA is good and if MIN is bad.
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Post#456 » by Jadoogar » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:08 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
XTC wrote:I definitely see the powell comparisons.

Walter measured an inch bigger, and powell jumps an inch higher. Both players measured near the top of their draft athletically.

Man the Raptors drafting from 2015-2017 was so elite.
2015: Delon Wright, Norman Powell
2016: Siakam, Poeltl, FVV
2017: OG

It's no wonder we won the 2019 championship.


I mean, we might be saying the same thing about Barnes, Dick, Walters in a few years.


i don't think we can. the 2015-2017 run had only 1 lottery pick (Poeltl). Barnes and Dick are both lottery picks (scottie being #4).
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Post#457 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:09 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:
XTC wrote:I definitely see the powell comparisons.

Walter measured an inch bigger, and powell jumps an inch higher. Both players measured near the top of their draft athletically.

Man the Raptors drafting from 2015-2017 was so elite.
2015: Delon Wright, Norman Powell
2016: Siakam, Poeltl, FVV
2017: OG

It's no wonder we won the 2019 championship.


I mean, we might be saying the same thing about Barnes, Dick, Walters in a few years.


Difference was that we were adding those guys to a 50 win team led by Demar/Lowry lol

Looking at that roster it makes no sense how we won 49 games in 2014-15.
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Post#458 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:09 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:
XTC wrote:I definitely see the powell comparisons.

Walter measured an inch bigger, and powell jumps an inch higher. Both players measured near the top of their draft athletically.

Man the Raptors drafting from 2015-2017 was so elite.
2015: Delon Wright, Norman Powell
2016: Siakam, Poeltl, FVV
2017: OG

It's no wonder we won the 2019 championship.


I mean, we might be saying the same thing about Barnes, Dick, Walters in a few years.


i don't think we can. the 2015-2017 run had only 1 lottery pick (Poeltl). Barnes and Dick are both lottery picks (scottie being #4).
Just wait until Koloko returns :wink:
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Post#459 » by Duffman100 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:09 pm

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I mean, we might be saying the same thing about Barnes, Dick, Walters in a few years.


Difference was that we were adding those guys to a 50 win team led by Demar/Lowry lol

Looking at that roster it makes no sense how we won 49 games in 2014-15.


The East was pretty **** ing bad.
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Post#460 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:11 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
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Difference was that we were adding those guys to a 50 win team led by Demar/Lowry lol

Looking at that roster it makes no sense how we won 49 games in 2014-15.


The East was pretty **** ing bad.

Very true. AS much as I liked Amir, the fact he was our 3rd/4th best player is ridiculous.
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