Your FINAL 2024 Big Board - put up or shut up edition

[Mark_83]

Put up your FINAL big boards.

Then next year when you complain on the #19 or #31 pick because of who you wanted having success elsewhere, we’ll know if you’re full of **** or not.

Merry Draftmas everyone!

Is this who we think will get pick or who the best players are?

[ArthurVandelay]

Put up your FINAL big boards.

Then next year when you complain on the #19 or #31 pick because of who you wanted having success elsewhere, we’ll know if you’re full of **** or not.

Merry Draftmas everyone!

Is this who we think will get pick or who the best players are?

Your big board

Your list of guys in order of preference

[ontnut]

Heres my stab at it.....im not confident at all.

- Sarr/Holland are probably the only guys that have star potential but are raw so they have significant bust potential as well
- Draft is flat as F. Example - in mock drafts why is Sheppard conensus top 5 while McCain mid 1st? Theyre pretty equivalent propects in my opinion
- Edey/McCain/Holland/Carter are my underrated picks

I'm with you 100% on Holland. He's one of my biggest bust potential watches in this draft. I'm always super wary of explosive type wings who make their mark by almost solely dunking on sub-par competition. His shot looks broken, and he's got a horrible A/TO, and I don't trust him as a playmaker or primary defender. His upside gives me early Harrison Barnes kinda vibes. Maybe a bit of RJ Barrett in there too. Downside is like...MKG.

[NoBias]

Don’t have a big board really, but I think Dillingham will surprise a lot of people in the next level.

[JN]

I'd say Reed Sheppard has the best chance to be a borderline all star in this draft based on perspectives I heard and agree with.

But its not a draft that I have invested much thought into. Could be like the Bennett draft tonight (I followed things much more back then)

[Mark_83]

I'm not going to post a full draft board since a lot of guys in a top 30 board are probably going to be busts. I will also adjust my rankings after I know which teams draft who, as some teams are prospect graveyards and poor at developing. So my top 15 as of now are:

1) Alex Sarr
2) Devin Carter
3) Donavan Clingan
4) Reed Sheppard
5) Ron Holland
6) Terrence Shannon Jr
7) Daron Holmes
8) Zaccharie Risacher
9) Jonathan Mogbo
10) Kel'el Ware
11) Jamal Shead
12) Rob Dillingham
13) Tyler Kolek
14) Baylor Scheierman
15) KJ Simpson

[ArthurVandelay]

I'm not going to post a full draft board since a lot of guys in a top 30 board are probably going to be busts. I will also adjust my rankings after I know which teams draft who, as some teams are prospect graveyards and poor at developing. So my top 15 as of now are:

1) Alex Sarr
2) Devin Carter
3) Donavan Clingan
4) Reed Sheppard
5) Ron Holland
6) Terrence Shannon Jr
7) Daron Holmes
8) Zaccharie Risacher
9) Jonathan Mogbo
10) Kel'el Ware
11) Jamal Shead
12) Rob Dillingham
13) Tyler Kolek
14) Baylor Scheierman
15) KJ Simpson

No changing or editing!

[Mark_83]

I'm not going to post a full draft board since a lot of guys in a top 30 board are probably going to be busts. I will also adjust my rankings after I know which teams draft who, as some teams are prospect graveyards and poor at developing. So my top 15 as of now are:

1) Alex Sarr
2) Devin Carter
3) Donavan Clingan
4) Reed Sheppard
5) Ron Holland
6) Terrence Shannon Jr
7) Daron Holmes
8) Zaccharie Risacher
9) Jonathan Mogbo
10) Kel'el Ware
11) Jamal Shead
12) Rob Dillingham
13) Tyler Kolek
14) Baylor Scheierman
15) KJ Simpson

No changing or editing!

That makes no sense. The point is to pick who will be the best players, not predict who will be picked where (mock draft). It's impossible to say who the best players will be until we see the situation they end up in. For example, Holland ending up in Detroit makes me seriously question how he will develop, while Ware ending up in Miami makes me even more bullish on him.

[ArthurVandelay]

I'm not going to post a full draft board since a lot of guys in a top 30 board are probably going to be busts. I will also adjust my rankings after I know which teams draft who, as some teams are prospect graveyards and poor at developing. So my top 15 as of now are:

1) Alex Sarr
2) Devin Carter
3) Donavan Clingan
4) Reed Sheppard
5) Ron Holland
6) Terrence Shannon Jr
7) Daron Holmes
8) Zaccharie Risacher
9) Jonathan Mogbo
10) Kel'el Ware
11) Jamal Shead
12) Rob Dillingham
13) Tyler Kolek
14) Baylor Scheierman
15) KJ Simpson

No changing or editing!

That makes no sense. The point is to pick who will be the best players, not predict who will be picked where (mock draft). It's impossible to say who the best players will be until we see the situation they end up in. For example, Holland ending up in Detroit makes me seriously question how he will develop, while Ware ending up in Miami makes me even more bullish on him.

I don’t think you grasp how big boards work. That’s cool.

The point was to document your big board (ie. YOUR pick order) so inevitably when someone drafted after Walter at 19 is having a better rookie season we have a tool to call out the (likely) revisionist history. “Masai sucks! I would have picked this guy instead!” Riiiight, sure you would have.

Remember the Dick takes?

[Mark_83]

No changing or editing!

That makes no sense. The point is to pick who will be the best players, not predict who will be picked where (mock draft). It's impossible to say who the best players will be until we see the situation they end up in. For example, Holland ending up in Detroit makes me seriously question how he will develop, while Ware ending up in Miami makes me even more bullish on him.

I don’t think you grasp how big boards work. That’s cool.

The point was to document your big board (ie. YOUR pick order) so inevitably when someone drafted after Walter at 19 is having a better rookie season we have a tool to call out the (likely) revisionist history. “Masai sucks! I would have picked this guy instead!” Riiiight, sure you would have.

Remember the Dick takes?

Meh, it's pointless. I'll document who I think will end up being the best players. The board without context is meaningless. Your scenario would still be covered regardless since no one will have played a single game in my scenario.

[YogurtProducer]

No changing or editing!

That makes no sense. The point is to pick who will be the best players, not predict who will be picked where (mock draft). It's impossible to say who the best players will be until we see the situation they end up in. For example, Holland ending up in Detroit makes me seriously question how he will develop, while Ware ending up in Miami makes me even more bullish on him.

I don’t think you grasp how big boards work. That’s cool.

The point was to document your big board (ie. YOUR pick order) so inevitably when someone drafted after Walter at 19 is having a better rookie season we have a tool to call out the (likely) revisionist history. “Masai sucks! I would have picked this guy instead!” Riiiight, sure you would have.

Remember the Dick takes?

I do love how the biggest complainers on the board about who we "Should have picked" are noticeably absent from this thread.

[shmoosicle]

Nice to see that Walter made most people's big board at least.

[ArthurVandelay]

That makes no sense. The point is to pick who will be the best players, not predict who will be picked where (mock draft). It's impossible to say who the best players will be until we see the situation they end up in. For example, Holland ending up in Detroit makes me seriously question how he will develop, while Ware ending up in Miami makes me even more bullish on him.

I don’t think you grasp how big boards work. That’s cool.

The point was to document your big board (ie. YOUR pick order) so inevitably when someone drafted after Walter at 19 is having a better rookie season we have a tool to call out the (likely) revisionist history. “Masai sucks! I would have picked this guy instead!” Riiiight, sure you would have.

Remember the Dick takes?

Meh, it's pointless. I'll document who I think will end up being the best players. The board without context is meaningless. Your scenario would still be covered regardless since no one will have played a single game in my scenario.

That’s the point man!

Scouting is projection.

GMs don’t get a re-do and people hyping certain players on a forum shouldn’t after the fact either.

[ArthurVandelay]

Nice to see that Walter made most people's big board at least.

I was high on him until late January and February. Stopped following him after his struggles.

Two things that turned me off low DBPM and low 2Pt fg%. I put a lot of weight on those two things for college players.

[Mark_83]

I don’t think you grasp how big boards work. That’s cool.

The point was to document your big board (ie. YOUR pick order) so inevitably when someone drafted after Walter at 19 is having a better rookie season we have a tool to call out the (likely) revisionist history. “Masai sucks! I would have picked this guy instead!” Riiiight, sure you would have.

Remember the Dick takes?

Meh, it's pointless. I'll document who I think will end up being the best players. The board without context is meaningless. Your scenario would still be covered regardless since no one will have played a single game in my scenario.

That’s the point man!

Scouting is projection.

GMs don’t get a re-do and people hyping certain players on a forum shouldn’t after the fact either.

That's the thing though. You're comparing apples to oranges. We don't get to make the picks. We don't control where players go so there's no re-anything. It's one thing if we're Masai and we think Tidjane Salaun, for example, has the potential to be a stud player. GM's are drafting players for their teams, not players that go to other teams. We don't have the ability to trade up to get the player we really want and make sure we get them into our system rather than see them go to a **** team who could destroy their development. That's why pre-draft boards are largely pointless for talent evaluation except as a fun exercise. The top 4 on my board are pretty close to locked in, but it would really make no difference if I changed it now before any player has played a single game to alter the evaluation. If someone drew up a board of who would be the 10 best players from this draft right now and got many of them right, it would be no less impressive than if they did so 24 hours ago. It's not a mock draft.

[ArthurVandelay]

Meh, it's pointless. I'll document who I think will end up being the best players. The board without context is meaningless. Your scenario would still be covered regardless since no one will have played a single game in my scenario.

That’s the point man!

Scouting is projection.

GMs don’t get a re-do and people hyping certain players on a forum shouldn’t after the fact either.

That's the thing though. You're comparing apples to oranges. We don't get to make the picks. We don't control where players go so there's no re-anything. It's one thing if we're Masai and we think Tidjane Salaun, for example, has the potential to be a stud player. GM's are drafting players for their teams, not players that go to other teams. We don't have the ability to trade up to get the player we really want and make sure we get them into our system rather than see them go to a **** team who could destroy their development. That's why pre-draft boards are largely pointless for talent evaluation except as a fun exercise. The top 4 on my board are pretty close to locked in, but it would really make no difference if I changed it now before any player has played a single game to alter the evaluation. If someone drew up a board of who would be the 10 best players from this draft right now and got many of them right, it would be no less impressive than if they did so 24 hours ago. It's not a mock draft.

Nobody does a big board after the draft

You do you though. Just don’t be that guy bitching on Masai cause you would have picked X player before Walter with the proof of your edited big board lol

[bluerap23]

1. Walter
2. Filipowski
3. Scrub
4. Scrub
5. Scrub

[Mark_83]

That’s the point man!

Scouting is projection.

GMs don’t get a re-do and people hyping certain players on a forum shouldn’t after the fact either.

That's the thing though. You're comparing apples to oranges. We don't get to make the picks. We don't control where players go so there's no re-anything. It's one thing if we're Masai and we think Tidjane Salaun, for example, has the potential to be a stud player. GM's are drafting players for their teams, not players that go to other teams. We don't have the ability to trade up to get the player we really want and make sure we get them into our system rather than see them go to a **** team who could destroy their development. That's why pre-draft boards are largely pointless for talent evaluation except as a fun exercise. The top 4 on my board are pretty close to locked in, but it would really make no difference if I changed it now before any player has played a single game to alter the evaluation. If someone drew up a board of who would be the 10 best players from this draft right now and got many of them right, it would be no less impressive than if they did so 24 hours ago. It's not a mock draft.

Nobody does a big board after the draft

You do you though. Just don’t be that guy bitching on Masai cause you would have picked X player before Walter with the proof of your edited big board lol

lol. Thanks for the permission, I think I will do me.

You can call them "post-draft rankings" if you're so bogged down in nomenclature. It makes almost no difference to player evaluation since literally nothing has changed today other than knowing what teams have what players.

Besides, if you're trying to compare what people on the board do and what GMs do, our reactions/discussions on the board prior to the pick being made in real-time are a far better analog for how a GM would actually have to make a draft evaluation than anything we would have said on some pre-draft ranking. Luckily I had no problem with taking Walter because my top choices for our pick were already gone.