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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#81 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:55 pm

eyeatoma wrote:Honestly, I'd be fine with Grant as well. He's better than Tobi, we could put a bunch of long athletes around our team. God knows he's a better defender.

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I can definitely get around Grant if the price is right. I still want a top tier third option but not sure how that'll happen.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#82 » by eyeatoma » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:59 pm

Mik317 wrote:the thing about Grant is that you wonder if he can scale back down after having the taste of being a top option lol



He's not going to have a choice, but he should still be good for 18-20 ppg.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#83 » by eyeatoma » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:03 pm

GoSixersBro wrote:Grant has more tools on both ends than Tobias for sure, but dude eerily reminds me of Clippers Tobias (aka fraudster). I can absolutely see him disappearing in a playoff series as #3 (see his bubble performance with Denver). Combine that with the fact he's a horrid rebounder for being 6'7'' when rebounding next to Joel is a massive priority to address this summer.



Agreed there, but in his early days he averages a little over a block a game, and was Aaron Gordon for the Nuggets before Gordon. His defense could definitely be handy.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#84 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:05 pm

It's Valanciunas szn. Do it Morey.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#85 » by MikRay » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:10 pm

If we do not get Bron or PG this off season an epic failure.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#86 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:19 pm

MikRay wrote:If we do not get Bron or PG this off season an epic failure.


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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#87 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:20 pm

If PG is still on the table, I wouldn't be against getting him and Kyle Anderson. Bring back Oubre and Batum. Try to bring in Jalen Smith.

Anderson would be a nice long defensive piece who could serve in a point forward capacity at times with his high level distribution ability.

And not to force the issue, but I think if you put enough length/defense around them like the names above, McCain and Maxey can coexist on the court.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#88 » by the_process » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:23 pm

eyeatoma wrote:Honestly, I'd be fine with Grant as well. He's better than Tobi, we could put a bunch of long athletes around our team. God knows he's a better defender.

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#89 » by 76ciology » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:24 pm

MikRay wrote:If we do not get Bron or PG this off season an epic failure.


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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#90 » by MikRay » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:24 pm

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MikRay wrote:If we do not get Bron or PG this off season an epic failure.


This isn't 2K.


Morey openly stated he was punting on last year in order to be in position to go big game hunting with our cap space. His words, not mine. If he does not land a Paul George, or LeBron James, or find a way to make a trade for a Kevin Durant type it’s an epic failure. I don’t care how you try and spin it - sorry.

If all we get in KCP type players it’s one and done again.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#91 » by FireMorey » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:28 pm

Ingram would be a bit disappointing given the Sixers kinda sorta punted on last season to clear this cap space, so you're hoping for a bigger fish. That said, I think the narrative for Ingram has gone too far in the other direction. He's a good player, is only 26, has averaged 25ppg in this league and is an iso type scorer, which the Sixers need another of. Depending on price, getting him isn't a disaster, albeit not an ideal outcome.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#92 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:29 pm

MikRay wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:
MikRay wrote:If we do not get Bron or PG this off season an epic failure.


This isn't 2K.


Morey openly stated he was punting on last year in order to be in position to go big game hunting with our cap space. His words, not mine. If he does not land a Paul George, or LeBron James, or find a way to make a trade for a Kevin Durant type it’s an epic failure. I don’t care how you try and spin it - sorry.

If all we get in KCP type players it’s one and done again.


Have the Sixers in history ever brought in a LeBron or Durant caliber player? (no)
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#93 » by Black Mage » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:32 pm

GoSixersBro wrote:
MikRay wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:
This isn't 2K.


Morey openly stated he was punting on last year in order to be in position to go big game hunting with our cap space. His words, not mine. If he does not land a Paul George, or LeBron James, or find a way to make a trade for a Kevin Durant type it’s an epic failure. I don’t care how you try and spin it - sorry.

If all we get in KCP type players it’s one and done again.


Have the Sixers in history ever brought in a LeBron or Durant caliber player? (no)


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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#94 » by Slacktard » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:35 pm

GoSixersBro wrote:
MikRay wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:
This isn't 2K.


Morey openly stated he was punting on last year in order to be in position to go big game hunting with our cap space. His words, not mine. If he does not land a Paul George, or LeBron James, or find a way to make a trade for a Kevin Durant type it’s an epic failure. I don’t care how you try and spin it - sorry.

If all we get in KCP type players it’s one and done again.


Have the Sixers in history ever brought in a LeBron or Durant caliber player? (no)


Moses Malone was an MVP with Houston when the Sixers did their S&T.
Julius Erving was bought from the Nets and an ABA MVP.
Wilt Chamberlain was brought back to Philly via trade with the Warriors after they went to San Francisco.

You shouldn't say "history", but certainly last 40 years hasn't had it happen. Harden is prob the highest level acquisition since Moses.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#95 » by mjkvol » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:37 pm

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ProcessDoctor wrote:Morey still saying we’re going to be the best team in the East next year.

Boy does he need to deliver.


I hate to even think it, but it does seem like it's going to be James and his G-League son.

Either that, or Morey is one delusional cat.


The Sixers win % when Embiid played was a 65 win pace. They don't need to get another "star." They just need to make good solid moves and surround Embiid and Maxey with really good complimentary players.


I couldn't agree more, and have been saying so since last summer. It's just that we're constantly told by the alleged Morey experts here that he knows no other way to build a team, and as much as I'm hoping otherwise, after last night I'm in doomsday mode.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#96 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:39 pm

Black Mage wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:
MikRay wrote:
Morey openly stated he was punting on last year in order to be in position to go big game hunting with our cap space. His words, not mine. If he does not land a Paul George, or LeBron James, or find a way to make a trade for a Kevin Durant type it’s an epic failure. I don’t care how you try and spin it - sorry.

If all we get in KCP type players it’s one and done again.


Have the Sixers in history ever brought in a LeBron or Durant caliber player? (no)


Moses


Not taking that bait, but MikRay (is he Bum?) is setting ridiculous terms to label the offseason a failure. Is Morey on the brink of failure? Yes, but setting unrealistic outcomes to dictate whether it's a failure is silly. A failure would be a similar offseason as last year where your biggest get is an Oubre supplemented by more ex-Rocket 35 year olds.

As said above, if he lands an Ingram it's certainly not a failure, at least in real time.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#97 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:43 pm

I don't think any player is coming to Philly for the Philadelphia experience. That is reserved for the common hotspots that everyone complains about. Since Miami, the LAs, and NYC are cap strapped (or are Brooklyn and actively tanking), the next consideration is winning. Having a core of Maxey and Embiid with a championship coach in Nurse should be enough to allure top talent. The problem is this year's FA class is kinda lame and PG is determined to not leave California I guess. LeBron also doesn't seem interested in leaving LA despite it being a complacent non-move at the end of his career. I suppose they could get DeRozan which would give them a slight bump as a contender, but I don't think it's enough to really make waves in the west.

In the event PG returns to LAC, does that mean Harden is the odd man out? Do we actually try to mend that relationship, lol?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#99 » by Jhawk03 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:46 pm

Mik317 wrote:some good wing prospects still on the board.

Klitman, Furphy, Christie, Flowers, Ajinca and Edwards are all upside type picks

Larson, Bridges, Wells, Ingram and Crawford are more plug and play

I like Nikola DJurisic ...plus taking a Nikola at 41 worked before


I love it, just imagine announcing that pick during a taco bell commercial. We are so back!
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#100 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:46 pm

I don't necessarily agree with Bum that if we don't get LeBron or PG the offseason is a failure, but I do think Bum is correct in that something needs to happen in terms of getting a 3rd star or this Morey plan was an abject failure.

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