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Post#21 » by nate33 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:05 pm

prime1time wrote:Sarr has the highest potential of anyone the Wizards have drafted in my lifetime.

I never really thought of it this way, but I suppose that's actually true, assuming one defines "potential" as innate physical characteristics like height, length, agility, and coordination.
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Post#22 » by prime1time » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:07 pm

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prime1time wrote:Sarr has the highest potential of anyone the Wizards have drafted in my lifetime.

I never really thought of it this way, but I suppose that's actually true, assuming one defines "potential" as innate physical characteristics like height, length, agility, and coordination.

We could also say he's super raw but the physical ability jumps off the charts.
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Post#23 » by NatP4 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:08 pm

Love this pick. Coulibaly+Sarr is awesome.

If you just hang onto Avdija and make this pick, it’s a great night.
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Post#24 » by mhd » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:08 pm

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prime1time wrote:Sarr has the highest potential of anyone the Wizards have drafted in my lifetime.

I never really thought of it this way, but I suppose that's actually true, assuming one defines "potential" as innate physical characteristics like height, length, agility, and coordination.


I would say Rasheed was the highest potential we have ever drafted. I’d also say Wall had more potential than Sarr as well.
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Post#25 » by prime1time » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:08 pm

I think the Wizards are still changing the roster but I wonder if Sarr will be starting.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#26 » by prime1time » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:11 pm

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nate33 wrote:
prime1time wrote:Sarr has the highest potential of anyone the Wizards have drafted in my lifetime.

I never really thought of it this way, but I suppose that's actually true, assuming one defines "potential" as innate physical characteristics like height, length, agility, and coordination.


I would say Rasheed was the highest potential we have ever drafted. I’d also say Wall had more potential than Sarr as well.

I'd take Sarr's potential over Wall's potential. When your 7'1 and quick it doesn't take much skill to become a problem on offense. And he's already a Defensive POY candidate. A better argument would be Kwame imo.

Let's run a thought experiment. Wall vs. Sarr. Wall develops a jumper vs. Sarr working out offensively. I think Sarr has a chance to be a good offensive player with Defensive POY. I'm taking that over Wall.
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Post#28 » by doclinkin » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:24 pm

nate33 wrote:
prime1time wrote:Sarr has the highest potential of anyone the Wizards have drafted in my lifetime.

I never really thought of it this way, but I suppose that's actually true, assuming one defines "potential" as innate physical characteristics like height, length, agility, and coordination.







Which is the cautionary tale here. JaVale was supremely talented. I can't find the clip but I recall as a rookie or one of his early years here he blocked a 3pt shot when he was in the cylinder at the time the pass was made. He got called for so many goaltending calls that replay shows should have been reversed because he was blocking jumpshots at the apex of their arc. Nobody else could have reached them, so they looked impossible to the refs. But for all his talent JaVale never quite developed his skills.

In his case he admits some part was due to refusal to take ADD meds. Fair choice, reasonable from a personal and human perspective. But from the irrational fan perspective, you know he could have had a far greater effect on his team than he did. He was a thoughtful guy, a good kid, interested in mechanics and electronics and learning new skills and enjoying his life. Wins and losses and improvement on the basketball court were simply not his greatest focus.
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Post#29 » by pancakes3 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:33 pm

many former players say that Blatche had KG potential and bring it up, often unprompted.
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Post#30 » by pancakes3 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:34 pm

closg00 wrote:Welcome to DC kid


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Post#31 » by prime1time » Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:46 pm

doclinkin wrote:
nate33 wrote:
prime1time wrote:Sarr has the highest potential of anyone the Wizards have drafted in my lifetime.

I never really thought of it this way, but I suppose that's actually true, assuming one defines "potential" as innate physical characteristics like height, length, agility, and coordination.







Which is the cautionary tale here. JaVale was supremely talented. I can't find the clip but I recall as a rookie or one of his early years here he blocked a 3pt shot when he was in the cylinder at the time the pass was made. He got called for so many goaltending calls that replay shows should have been reversed because he was blocking jumpshots at the apex of their arc. Nobody else could have reached them, so they looked impossible to the refs. But for all his talent JaVale never quite developed his skills.

In his case he admits some part was due to refusal to take ADD meds. Fair choice, reasonable from a personal and human perspective. But from the irrational fan perspective, you know he could have had a far greater effect on his team than he did. He was a thoughtful guy, a good kid, interested in mechanics and electronics and learning new skills and enjoying his life. Wins and losses and improvement on the basketball court were simply not his greatest focus.

Javale McGee lol. In terms of pure physical ability, I'm taking Sarr over Javale. Sarr's lateral agility is on another level. And if you look at just basic maturity Sarr is on a different plane.
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Post#32 » by prime1time » Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:47 pm

pancakes3 wrote:many former players say that Blatche had KG potential and bring it up, often unprompted.

I'm talking about objective potential. Not just Wizard homers lol.
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Post#33 » by nate33 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:21 pm

prime1time wrote:
doclinkin wrote:
nate33 wrote:I never really thought of it this way, but I suppose that's actually true, assuming one defines "potential" as innate physical characteristics like height, length, agility, and coordination.


Which is the cautionary tale here. JaVale was supremely talented. I can't find the clip but I recall as a rookie or one of his early years here he blocked a 3pt shot when he was in the cylinder at the time the pass was made. He got called for so many goaltending calls that replay shows should have been reversed because he was blocking jumpshots at the apex of their arc. Nobody else could have reached them, so they looked impossible to the refs. But for all his talent JaVale never quite developed his skills.

In his case he admits some part was due to refusal to take ADD meds. Fair choice, reasonable from a personal and human perspective. But from the irrational fan perspective, you know he could have had a far greater effect on his team than he did. He was a thoughtful guy, a good kid, interested in mechanics and electronics and learning new skills and enjoying his life. Wins and losses and improvement on the basketball court were simply not his greatest focus.

Javale McGee lol. In terms of pure physical ability, I'm taking Sarr over Javale. Sarr's lateral agility is on another level. And if you look at just basic maturity Sarr is on a different plane.

Yeah, Javale was tall, long, and could jump, but he had terrible lateral quickness and very little coordination. He couldn't really shoot or dribble. If he had better basketball sense and a better work ethic, he might have become DeAndre Jordan, but he never had the potential to be a Ralph Sampson/David Robinson type of player.
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Post#34 » by doclinkin » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:44 pm

nate33 wrote:Yeah, Javale was tall, long, and could jump, but he had terrible lateral quickness and very little coordination. He couldn't really shoot or dribble. If he had better basketball sense and a better work ethic, he might have become DeAndre Jordan, but he never had the potential to be a Ralph Sampson/David Robinson type of player.


Disagree. He did things in the Drew league pro-am games in LA that were eye-boggling for a player that size. He was just distractible and lost focus in-games in the NBA so he would sometimes try to do too many things all at once. Plus he didn't practice it. Guys like Kyrie grow up dribbling and do it all the time, in the gym alone. JaVale simply didn't. But every now and again you would see him pull it out in games:

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Post#35 » by bgroban » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:30 am

He reminds me of a very young Amare Stoudemire.
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Post#36 » by AFM » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:57 am

bgroban wrote:He reminds me of a very young Amare Stoudemire.


That would be awesome and I can see it a little. Stoudemire in his prime was a beast.
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Post#37 » by penbeast0 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:29 am

I can't see it at all, either offensively or (thank God) defensively. I can see him as a young JJJ but also as the next Nerlens Noel. Had to take that swing though; he was the highest ceiling guy in the draft.
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Post#38 » by AFM » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:44 pm

From Hollinger in todays NYT:

2. Washington Wizards

Alexandre Sarr | 7-0 forward/center | 19 years old | Perth Wildcats

Vecenie’s ranking: 1

Alexandre Sarr is the highest-upside player in the 2024 NBA Draft class. He has enormous positional size, even at center. He is an elite defender who impacts games at the rim, midrange and 3-point line with his athletic fluidity. With his strong instincts and fundamentals on that end, he has the potential to be a perennial All-Defense level player if things break right. Offensively, there are serious concerns about the level his game can reach. His jumper needs to continue making strides, and his finishing through contact must keep improving. Ultimately, the key will be Sarr’s strength and growth. If he grows into his frame more and becomes more physical, Sarr is the best bet in the class to become a future All-Star. His skill set is tantalizing; it’s harder than ever to find bigs who can be elite defenders while also thriving as perimeter-oriented offensive players in an NBA that cares more about floor-spacing than ever before. Sarr’s archetype is valuable, as seen by the successes of Chet Holmgren, Victor Wembanyama and even, to a lesser extent, players such as Myles Turner in Indiana. He is not quite at the level of prospect that Wembanyama or Holmgren were, but he’s still an excellent prospect worth investing in. The downside for Sarr is something in the ballpark of Nic Claxton, while his upside is an All-Star-caliber big. To me, he offers the best range of outcomes in this down 2024 class
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Post#39 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:56 pm

doclinkin wrote:
nate33 wrote:Yeah, Javale was tall, long, and could jump, but he had terrible lateral quickness and very little coordination. He couldn't really shoot or dribble. If he had better basketball sense and a better work ethic, he might have become DeAndre Jordan, but he never had the potential to be a Ralph Sampson/David Robinson type of player.


Disagree. He did things in the Drew league pro-am games in LA that were eye-boggling for a player that size. He was just distractible and lost focus in-games in the NBA so he would sometimes try to do too many things all at once. Plus he didn't practice it. Guys like Kyrie grow up dribbling and do it all the time, in the gym alone. JaVale simply didn't. But every now and again you would see him pull it out in games:



JaVale was so preoccupied with whether or not he could

He didn't stop to think if he should
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Post#40 » by tontoz » Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:29 pm

AFM wrote:
bgroban wrote:He reminds me of a very young Amare Stoudemire.


That would be awesome and I can see it a little. Stoudemire in his prime was a beast.



Amare was much stronger. He could bully guys. Sarr is going to get bullied a lot early on.
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