SGA vs. ANT: Next 7 years
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I'd like Edwards advanced stats to be a bit better than .130 WS/48 and 3.3 to take him over a proven MVP candidate in SGA. For example 2017 Giannis as a similar athletic freak who was 2 years away from his real MVP form still had .210 WS.48 and 7.3 BPM.
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O_6 wrote:Colbinii wrote:O_6 wrote:18-10 vote edge for Anthony Edwards at the time of this post.
Pretty crazy how highly so many of us are projecting Edwards to be willing to take a gamble on his potential when SGA is a 25 year old who finished 2nd in EPM and 2nd in MVP for the #1 seed in the West. Two way beast who is good for an efficient 30 PPG while being a solid passer. Who already had a 1st team NBA appearance last year when he finished 5th in the MVP vote.
SGA looks locked in to be a Top 5 player with a chance to win atleast one MVP over these next 7 years, just wild how Edwards still seems to be the fairly clear choice so far in this thread.
This is kind of a time capsule post as I wanted to see how the vibe was in regards to this comp as of today, it will be really fun looking back at this post in 3 years time or so to see which option would've been the correct choice.
What do you mean a gamble on ANT's potential?
He is already a Top 5 post-season performer over the past 3 seasons.
Don't get me wrong, he's already really good and has been sensational in these playoffs. But he hasn't proven it over 82 games (not that I'd expect him to at that age), so it still is a gamble if he actually turns into "this guy" on a regular basis.
I'm sold on him, I think he'll be a future MVP. But let's not act like he's already an established MVP candidate like SGA has proven to be. It's why this is a fun debate imo. Is Edwards' potential ceiling so scary high that we're willing to roll the dice on that over the proven commodity of a player like SGA who is a Top 5 player in the league easily this year with a great Top 3 argument?
He's the best combination of skill and explosion we've seen since Jordan and Wade. The other 3 S-tier athletes in the league right now are Zion Ausar and Ja. Ant is the one that looks to be panning out with health and situation.
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Dr Positivity wrote:I'd like Edwards advanced stats to be a bit better than .130 WS/48 and 3.3 to take him over a proven MVP candidate in SGA. For example 2017 Giannis as a similar athletic freak who was 2 years away from his real MVP form still had .210 WS.48 and 7.3 BPM.
The general pro-Ant argument is about his postseason play.
Last year, he was at .190 WS/48 and +7.3 OBPM, to borrow your stats. So far this postseason, .219 WS/48 and +6.4 OBPM.
It's quite different than his RS play, to be sure.
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Average over those 7 years? Shai. He's already there, so Ant is playing from behind.
The best single season in the next 7 years? I might bet on Ant. If he keeps going like this, what's he going to look like at 27?
The best single season in the next 7 years? I might bet on Ant. If he keeps going like this, what's he going to look like at 27?
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Youre basically betting on Ants ball Iq to get to a certain level to make this him.
As of 2024 they are not on the same tier as this series and really season as a whole is showing. Sga is far better but Ofc this thread was about future so we shall see
As of 2024 they are not on the same tier as this series and really season as a whole is showing. Sga is far better but Ofc this thread was about future so we shall see
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Thought I'd bump this.
When I made this post, Ant was getting a ton of attention as the next face of the league for his performance against Denver and Phoenix. SGA just finished 2nd in the MVP vote and had a strong playoff run, yet Ant leads 23-18 in this poll at the time of this post.
I have a feeling that the results would be different if I had created this thread today. Interested to see if people have re-evaluated this comparison after having time to reflect after the season.
When I made this post, Ant was getting a ton of attention as the next face of the league for his performance against Denver and Phoenix. SGA just finished 2nd in the MVP vote and had a strong playoff run, yet Ant leads 23-18 in this poll at the time of this post.
I have a feeling that the results would be different if I had created this thread today. Interested to see if people have re-evaluated this comparison after having time to reflect after the season.
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O_6 wrote:Thought I'd bump this.
When I made this post, Ant was getting a ton of attention as the next face of the league for his performance against Denver and Phoenix. SGA just finished 2nd in the MVP vote and had a strong playoff run, yet Ant leads 23-18 in this poll at the time of this post.
I have a feeling that the results would be different if I had created this thread today. Interested to see if people have re-evaluated this comparison after having time to reflect after the season.
He's still a young guy. He's still got the tools, but needs to find more consistency and a way to bring his A game more regularly. He still needs to find more ways to attack a defense other than using the 3, since his greatest value comes as a slasher wielding his athleticism to high-end effect. He's got to grow his mid-range game a little as well.
SGA is comfortably ahead at the moment, but Ant has certainly flashed the potential to get ahead of him if everything breaks the right way for him.
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I like the idea of an MVP candidate in their Mid-20's to be better in 7 years than a 23 year old making the jump to MVP level.
I wouldn't be surprised if ANT did surpass SGA, but there are very few players in NBA History who have surpassed current SGA. He is what, a Top 40-50 Peak? Hard to say anyone in the league aside from Jokic/Luka/Giannis/Wemby/Embiid will ever have a season in the future as good as Current SGA.
I wouldn't be surprised if ANT did surpass SGA, but there are very few players in NBA History who have surpassed current SGA. He is what, a Top 40-50 Peak? Hard to say anyone in the league aside from Jokic/Luka/Giannis/Wemby/Embiid will ever have a season in the future as good as Current SGA.