June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread (second round starts 3 pm)

[Worm Guts]

The only reason we would draft Bronny is to lure his dad here or to leverage the Lakers for trade. If one of those options is on the table, I'm down with it, otherwise I can't imagine it happening.

I disagree. If they draft him, I think they believe in him.

"It's been about investment...finding a team willing to invest in him." That's the reporting from Shams about what Bronny and Klutch are looking for. Investment, development....thats always been Tim Connelly's music! And keep in mind....Tim just traded way up to draft a Klutch client in Rob Dillingham. I'm guessing Klutch doesn't have an issue with their clients going to Minnesota.

He has potential to be an NBA player, but he's not a top 64 prospect. I could see signing him as an UDFA under different circumstances, but I'm pretty sure that won't happen.

[younggunsmn]

The only reason we would draft Bronny is to lure his dad here or to leverage the Lakers for trade. If one of those options is on the table, I'm down with it, otherwise I can't imagine it happening.

Holding Bronny hostage and pissing off one of the most powerful agents in the league is not a road you want to go down, for what, a 2nd round pick or two?

"Holding Bronny hostage" is strong language. I'm sure Connelly has a better feel for how that would play out than any of us do, so I'll leave that to his discretion.

That's exactly how it would play out when it's February and Bronny has gotten nothing but G-League minutes in frozen Iowa.
Rich Paul knows what he's doing and if he was OK with Bronny coming here we would have gotten a workout, like Phoenix did.

[Worm Guts]

Holding Bronny hostage and pissing off one of the most powerful agents in the league is not a road you want to go down, for what, a 2nd round pick or two?

"Holding Bronny hostage" is strong language. I'm sure Connelly has a better feel for how that would play out than any of us do, so I'll leave that to his discretion.

That's exactly how it would play out when it's February and Bronny has gotten nothing but G-League minutes in frozen Iowa.
Rich Paul knows what he's doing and if he was OK with Bronny coming here we would have gotten a workout, like Phoenix did.

I'm glad you have a strong opinion about it. (How is Bronny ending up here in February if we're drafting him to trade him?)

[Klomp]

The only reason we would draft Bronny is to lure his dad here or to leverage the Lakers for trade. If one of those options is on the table, I'm down with it, otherwise I can't imagine it happening.

I disagree. If they draft him, I think they believe in him.

"It's been about investment...finding a team willing to invest in him." That's the reporting from Shams about what Bronny and Klutch are looking for. Investment, development....thats always been Tim Connelly's music! And keep in mind....Tim just traded way up to draft a Klutch client in Rob Dillingham. I'm guessing Klutch doesn't have an issue with their clients going to Minnesota.

Bronny makes Wendell Moore Jr look like a lottery pick in comparison.
He's going to the Lakers either with 55 or as an UDFA.

So 55 is okay but 53 is an egregious decision?!

[younggunsmn]

I disagree. If they draft him, I think they believe in him.

"It's been about investment...finding a team willing to invest in him." That's the reporting from Shams about what Bronny and Klutch are looking for. Investment, development....thats always been Tim Connelly's music! And keep in mind....Tim just traded way up to draft a Klutch client in Rob Dillingham. I'm guessing Klutch doesn't have an issue with their clients going to Minnesota.

Bronny makes Wendell Moore Jr look like a lottery pick in comparison.
He's going to the Lakers either with 55 or as an UDFA.

So 55 is okay but 53 is an egregious decision?!

55 keeps LeBron in LA for another season or two (RIch Paul giving PHX a Bronny workout was an implied threat LeBron was interested in playing there BTW).

53 pisses off a whole bunch of powerful people, including the agent of the guy we just drafted at 8.

[Norseman79]

My issue with drafting James is the media circus, positional redundancy and the optics. If they can deal with all that, and avoid it, whatever. Change his name to Jon Doe and no one would want him drafted, but if they see something so be it

[Klomp]

53 pisses off a whole bunch of powerful people, including the agent of the guy we just drafted at 8.

Possibly. Or he's okay with it or at worst noncommittal.

If we think Klutch will get that furious over taking him, there is a 0% chance Tim makes the pick. But if that's not the case....

Ultimately, Klutch's job is to get its client paid. If we are willing to draft him, invest in him, sign him to a standard/guaranteed contract like he is looking for, I just can't see them being upset that we drafted him.

EDIT: Terrence Shannon is also a Klutch client

[Norseman79]

Ulrich Chomche...I'm willing it to happen lol

[Nick K]

Read on Twitter

This has Bronny written all over it if the interest is genuine, given some of the steam we've heard previously. Justin Edwards is another intriguing "former top prospect" option.

This is a solid move Klomp. Jr. had no future here anyway. I wish him well.

[Nick K]

That’s the problem when you have a close team(that’s like family). The guy in charge doesn’t use his it’s just business head or he’s just Stubborn. Now it looks like he did Moore a solid by sending him to a team with less talent at guard and with a Duke guy in charge.

No doubt. It's a great move for Moore Jr. as it will give him a chance. He had no chance here. It's easy to see Connelly had this kids interest in heart.

[KGdaBom]

Looking at our roster right now. I think we need to add a big ( Forward, Center). Also, not sure we want another young guy on the roster so could see us taking a European Stash type of pick too.

Bobi Klintman might have the most upside and fits both scenarios above.

Adem Bona really like what he could bring to our big rotation.

Jonathan Mogho could be a Kyle Anderson but faster and explosive. The level of comp is a issue.

Ulrich Chomche a lot like Bona just taller and not as muscular. But you have the option to leave him over seas to develop.

Bona is supposed to be the next Ben Wallace. I'd be ok with that.

[KGdaBom]

I think we get two of the best players in first round tbh. I hate that they are bringing up Shannon’s legal
Issues since he was found innocent.

Right or wrong a sexual assault charge will always be brought up.

I would tend to agree but it would be wholly unfair to this young guy. I checked into his situation and he wasn't even there when the crime happened. He took the stand in his own defense and the jury acquitted him. I hope this kid get a new clean fair start.

What a nightmare that had to be to go through.

Yeah, he was found fully innocent rather than not guilty.

[wolves_89]

A few of thoughts on the Moore trade. First, Wendell's trade value proved to be slightly negative. Second, I'm wondering if freeing up the salary and extra roster spot makes Morris more likely to return. Lastly, I think a guy picked at 53 is likely to end up on a two-way contract (instead of the regular roster spot that would have probably gone to a player picked at 37).

[Nick K]

Looking at our roster right now. I think we need to add a big ( Forward, Center). Also, not sure we want another young guy on the roster so could see us taking a European Stash type of pick too.

Bobi Klintman might have the most upside and fits both scenarios above.

Adem Bona really like what he could bring to our big rotation.

Jonathan Mogho could be a Kyle Anderson but faster and explosive. The level of comp is a issue.

Ulrich Chomche a lot like Bona just taller and not as muscular. But you have the option to leave him over seas to develop.

Bona is supposed to be the next Ben Wallace. I'd be ok with that.

I just looked at Bona for the fist time and I'd take him in a heartbeat! He could be a defensive anchor. Love the call!

[KGdaBom]

Read on Twitter

This has Bronny written all over it if the interest is genuine, given some of the steam we've heard previously. Justin Edwards is another intriguing "former top prospect" option.

Kind of a shame to be give up 37 for 53,but that's the cost of getting out of Moore's contract.

[younggunsmn]

Read on Twitter

This has Bronny written all over it if the interest is genuine, given some of the steam we've heard previously. Justin Edwards is another intriguing "former top prospect" option.

This is a solid move Klomp. Jr. had no future here anyway. I wish him well.

I'm gonna miss Klomp Jr, he had potential.

[Nick K]

Hey check this out on Shannon from an Illinois poster who knows. This is good. Hold on to your hat!

Canis comment:

poppopwow
"I watched virtually every minute of Shannon's career at Illinois-you guys don't realize just what you're getting. He's a blur on offense-just outstanding on the break. Very aggressive driver and draws a lot of fouls. Was the best defender on the team-always guarded the other team's best backcourt player. Most of all, tremendous character-goes to the gym at 4:30 in the morning most days. I saw a couple of people here refer to him as 'selfish'-nothing could be further from the truth. An absolutely humble, team player. He actually declined to come in one game because his back-up was playing so well. He might have seemed selfish because he was the focus of the offense but that was his coach's decision. They didn't run any plays for him-just gave him the ball and trusted that he would make the correct decision. He's the kind of player that fans fall in love with, which is why you're going to inherit virtually the entire Illinois fan base, one of the most passionate (annoying?) fan bases of them all. I'm certainly going to watch all of your games."
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How about that? I'm stoked!!!

[BlacJacMac]

Read on Twitter

This has Bronny written all over it if the interest is genuine, given some of the steam we've heard previously. Justin Edwards is another intriguing "former top prospect" option.

PLEASE NO!
The kid can't play and has no business being drafted other than who his dad is.
Last thing this team needs is the LeBron circus distracting from what should be a whole lot of winning.

IMHO TC just asked for a workout to do a solid for LeBron's agent, and dipped his toe in the water on the 1% chance LeBron wanted to play here and the answer was a resounding no.

The only reason we would draft Bronny is to lure his dad here or to leverage the Lakers for trade. If one of those options is on the table, I'm down with it, otherwise I can't imagine it happening.

Both LeBron and Rich Paul have shot down the idea of LeBron playing with Bronny.

[BlacJacMac]

That’s the problem when you have a close team(that’s like family). The guy in charge doesn’t use his it’s just business head or he’s just Stubborn. Now it looks like he did Moore a solid by sending him to a team with less talent at guard and with a Duke guy in charge.

No doubt. It's a great move for Moore Jr. as it will give him a chance. He had no chance here. It's easy to see Connelly had this kids interest in heart.

Or the bottom line.

[Worm Guts]

Hey check this out on Shannon from an Illinois poster who knows. This is good. Hold on to your hat!

Canis comment:

poppopwow
"I watched virtually every minute of Shannon's career at Illinois-you guys don't realize just what you're getting. He's a blur on offense-just outstanding on the break. Very aggressive driver and draws a lot of fouls. Was the best defender on the team-always guarded the other team's best backcourt player. Most of all, tremendous character-goes to the gym at 4:30 in the morning most days. I saw a couple of people here refer to him as 'selfish'-nothing could be further from the truth. An absolutely humble, team player. He actually declined to come in one game because his back-up was playing so well. He might have seemed selfish because he was the focus of the offense but that was his coach's decision. They didn't run any plays for him-just gave him the ball and trusted that he would make the correct decision. He's the kind of player that fans fall in love with, which is why you're going to inherit virtually the entire Illinois fan base, one of the most passionate (annoying?) fan bases of them all. I'm certainly going to watch all of your games."
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How about that? I'm stoked!!!

Everybody probably remembers this but he averaged 34 ppg during the Big Ten Tournament and 31 ppg over a 6 game stretch between the Big Ten tournament the first 3 games of the NCAA tournament. He looked like an elite scorer. It kind of ended with a thud against UConn, but it was still a very impressive run.