ESPNHow Clingan and Edey's big game sets them apart
IT'S RARE THAT the viewing interests of fans and scouts ever completely align, but as circumstances would have it, last season's most-watched jump ball came at the outset of the men's national title game in Glendale, Arizona.
UConn's 7-foot-3 Donovan Clingan, anchoring a defense on its way to a historic average margin of victory (23.3 points) and a second straight title, and Purdue's 7-5 Zach Edey, the two-time national player of the year and college basketball's most dominant interior force, squared off at midcourt. The two centers, both viewed as fascinating pro prospects, had their final opportunity to leave an impression on NBA decision-makers on April 8 -- with a little more than two months to go before the 2024 draft.
Amid what has been regarded by NBA scouts and executives as a down year for draft talent, big men have been trending up boards. While NBA front offices evaluate talent and calibrate their decisions ahead of the draft, as many as eight centers could hear their names called in the first round, up from one true center in 2023.
CLINGAN HAS A chance to hear his name called within the first seven picks of the draft, following his emergence over the course of UConn's title run. The Huskies' two NCAA championships in two years were greatly aided by Clingan's defensive impact, which sometimes shows in the box score but often manifests more in the win column. He worked his way through minor injuries over the course of the season and found peak form when it mattered most in March, vaulting him into the draft's high lottery conversation.
UConn's staff used NBA players such as Minnesota's Rudy Gobert and Utah's Kessler as the blueprint defensively, but also expanded Clingan's role in its offense, giving him more opportunities to facilitate and score in addition to screening and rolling. Part of the long-term appeal with him for NBA scouts is not only his defense, but the room for growth on the other end, including potential to extend his range to the 3-point line.
UConn also placed a premium on patience with Clingan.
At 7-1¾ barefoot with a 7-6¾ wingspan and 9-7 standing reach, Clingan's physical comparisons in ESPN's scouting database include four-time NBA champion Shaquille O'Neal, as well as Gobert. Clingan's play in the NCAA tournament helped reframe his draft trajectory for scouts -- he was no longer just a potential long-term defensive anchor, but he flashed poise and skill potential on the offensive end. Clingan couples his physical presence with above-average footwork, coordination and timing for his size, which was striking by the time he'd regained his conditioning during the NCAA tournament.
The title-game matchup between Edey and Clingan largely lived up to the hype, with Edey getting the better of Clingan on some occasions in the post (Edey scored 37 points to Clingan's 11), but Clingan making a broader defensive impact in fewer minutes and wearing down his opponent. The differences in their respective usage, skill sets and contexts was evident, but both showed the mettle that makes them appealing at the next level.
"The No. 1 thing for us wasn't Clingan's defense on Zach, it was Clingan's defense in help," Painter said. "We thought he was a really good post defender, but also thought Zach would have that advantage. I thought Zach had more success in that game, but where Clingan does his work and where he's special is on the weak side coming over, helping out on drives, having that timing and the discipline to stay down. To be the second jumper, block or change shots."
From a size perspective, like Clingan, Edey's physical comparisons include O'Neal and Gobert (and also 7-4 Rockets center Boban Marjanovic) -- but he's taller and has a longer wingspan than all of them. In addition to his remarkable college production, his late-blooming trajectory has added a layer of intrigue for teams.
With the NBA's present moment defined to some extent by dominant bigs -- think Jokic and Joel Embiid trading MVP awards, and Victor Wembanyama's ascent just beginning -- there's value to be found in having size on the floor, running efficient offense through the post, and then effectively contending against it.
Clingan and Edey are coming around at the perfect time, with NBA front offices and coaching staffs being more open-minded to their utility. And while we might not be entering another era of 7-footers and post play -- shooting, pace and spacing are still the league's chief priorities -- the two tallest prospects in this draft class could wind up among its most impactful players in the long run.
While a wave of intriguing center prospects in a thin draft might not signal a stylistic sea of change for the NBA, teams are intrigued to see how Clingan and Edey fare after taking over the college game by drastically different means.
If nothing else, their careers will serve as a useful litmus test as to just how good a 7-footer has to be to stick in the NBA these days.
"I don't know if the big man is back, but I think Clingan and Edey were just dominant, and it stands out. In a deeper draft, maybe they each get picked 5-to-10 slots later," one general manager told ESPN. "But it's an interesting comparison, the two best bigs in college basketball -- they're just very different. But they both play hard. They're going to give it their all, they compete, they're physical, can't deny that."
Young Center Prospects to Consider
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Yikes...
I'd still take a swing and bring this kid in. Or is Bruno more valuable as a positive locker room presence?
I'd still take a swing and bring this kid in. Or is Bruno more valuable as a positive locker room presence?
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Miami desperately needs a big man to fulfill their needs. Bam can only do so much at his size. I look forward to seeing how Ware plays for them.Jamaaliver wrote:Kel'el Ware is gonna haunt us for the next 5+ years. Solid pick by Miami.
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30/17 career highs. He's only 23 years old and he should have many options. I hope we pursue him.Jamaaliver wrote:Yikes...
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C is not where we need to invest big money or assets, but we do need to get bigger and CC is prolly on the way out
Wiseman is a good try and if we move Murray I'm thinking to ORL for WCJr / Black +
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I don't know what the Hawks DNA is but I don't like it...nor Ayton
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tbhawksfan1 wrote:I don't know what the Hawks DNA is but I don't like it...nor Ayton
what do you think of adding James Wiseman as a cheap buy low candidate?
The Detroit Pistons have renounced the rights to former top-3 pick James Wiseman, making him an unrestricted free agent at 23 years old. Despite a potential return, it appears unlikely as Detroit aims to clear cap space and views Wiseman as a buy-low option in the veteran's minimum market.
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jayu70 wrote:tbhawksfan1 wrote:I don't know what the Hawks DNA is but I don't like it...nor Ayton
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what do you think of adding James Wiseman as a cheap buy low candidate?The Detroit Pistons have renounced the rights to former top-3 pick James Wiseman, making him an unrestricted free agent at 23 years old. Despite a potential return, it appears unlikely as Detroit aims to clear cap space and views Wiseman as a buy-low option in the veteran's minimum market.
Nothing to lose. Absolutely need some 7'0"+ on the roster
Maybe we can get some of that Hawk's DNA into him
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Jalen Smith will enter free agency after declining player option
Michael Scotto: Sources: Indiana Pacers forward Jalen Smith is declining his $5.4 million player option and will enter unrestricted free agency, @hoopshype has learned. Smith shot a career-high 59.2 percent from the field and 42.4 percent from 3-point range for the Pacers last season.
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Michael Scotto: Sources: Indiana Pacers forward Jalen Smith is declining his $5.4 million player option and will enter unrestricted free agency, @hoopshype has learned. Smith shot a career-high 59.2 percent from the field and 42.4 percent from 3-point range for the Pacers last season.
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Jalen Smith vs. Atlanta Hawks: Totals
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HMFFL wrote:Jalen Smith will enter free agency after declining player option
Michael Scotto: Sources: Indiana Pacers forward Jalen Smith is declining his $5.4 million player option and will enter unrestricted free agency, @hoopshype has learned. Smith shot a career-high 59.2 percent from the field and 42.4 percent from 3-point range for the Pacers last season.
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I do like this kid as a low cost backup Center. He can space the floor and protect the rim. Something no Hawks big man can currently do with any consistency.
We can beat that $5.4 million offer using the MLE, right?
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Jamaaliver wrote:HMFFL wrote:Jalen Smith will enter free agency after declining player option
Michael Scotto: Sources: Indiana Pacers forward Jalen Smith is declining his $5.4 million player option and will enter unrestricted free agency, @hoopshype has learned. Smith shot a career-high 59.2 percent from the field and 42.4 percent from 3-point range for the Pacers last season.
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Jalen Smith Career Highs
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I do like this kid as a low cost backup Center. He can space the floor and protect the rim. Something no Hawks big man can currently do with any consistency.
We can beat that $5.4 million offer using the MLE, right?
Yes, I believe so. I use to obsess over the financial aspect of the game years ago but I no longer do.
We need him. He puts in the work and his numbers indicate it.
One area is his range, 61 made three points @ 42%.
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Games Started/Minutes Per GameJamaaliver wrote:
71 / 29.8
I would like to see OO starting 71 games like Claxsto and average 29 Minutes. We need to see what type of player we actually have.
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HMFFL wrote:Jalen Smith will enter free agency after declining player option
Michael Scotto: Sources: Indiana Pacers forward Jalen Smith is declining his $5.4 million player option and will enter unrestricted free agency, @hoopshype has learned. Smith shot a career-high 59.2 percent from the field and 42.4 percent from 3-point range for the Pacers last season.
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I'm a huge Jalen Smith fan and I hope he signs with the Hawks, but Smith wants to be a starter. He will sign with a team , even a bad team that will promise him +25mpg or even a starting spot.
I could see a team like Dallas, Clip, Bulls, Heat, Wiz, maybe offering him minutes or even a starting spot.



