2024 NBA Draft Second Round open thread, June 27th

[FFBlitzace]

I understand. I understand that teams probably felt like this wasn't an issue worth getting involved in. If LA wants to use an irrelevant pick on a non-NBA player, let them. But my thing is, where does it stop? This time, it happened to have a negligible impact since Bronny James the player does not matter and neither does the 55th pick in the second round. But that's this time. This won't be the end of this kind of thing.

[T-Cat]

Ulrich Chomche rights got traded to Toronto

[jezzerinho]

Weltman is a meme.

NO SKIPPING STEPS.

What a joke.

[Howard Mass]

Why?? If he’s still here, which I passionately hope isn’t the case, he’ll just give them away. Again. Why in hell would he do anything differently? That’s like, 30 more players he has to have someone else learn about.

Dude’s a total dope.

Weltman probably didn't think there was a role for him here. Better to get an asset than a cut.

Those second round picks can be valuable. Those swap rights make the 30 and 31 2nds more valuable.

Remember, three crappy 2nds got The Magic a great first round swap with either Phoenix or Washington in 2026.

Weltman just maximizing value of those 2nds.

but again, we didnt get two 2nd round picks, its the option to swap which may never materialize. so it could be nothing.

it very well could be.

Don't think anyone was giving future 2nds for picks around #47 so swaps were next best thing if they didn't want a player.

[Howard Mass]

And everyone, stop hating on Jeff Weltman over 2nd round picks.

It's not being honest with yourself if you love and endorse every Magic move. It comes to the point where it's disingenuous.

If they dealt it for cash, I wouldn't be happy.

I don't endorse every move either.

[SOUL]

The main complaint is that we can't find time for our last year's rookies and some of it is valid if we have no plan for them long term or make use of any value via trade.

But now we have 3 guys from the last two drafts potentially added onto a roster of a number of guys expecting PT, a free agent or two as well, and people are freaking out about 2nd rounders they haven't scouted??

I just don't understand the logic because there is literally no room or avenues forward for hail mary seconds

[YosemiteSam]

You guys are like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football (i.e., Magic 2nd round picks). Weltman is Lucy, but you just keep falling for it. He is nothing if not consistent.

[Howard Mass]

at least cash would be tangible. these may not convey at all.

Let's say The Magic are good in 2030 and 2031 (Picks in 50's) and The Pelicans are not (Picks in early 30's), Magic can swap for those.

It's also makes the picks more valuable in trades.

He probably thought there was not a place for Reeves and made the move.

i think the Pelicans have been better than the Magic over the past decade. its one thing to trade for 1 or 2 more 2nd round picks, but swaps could be nothing.

It's a chance but if The Magic didn't want Reeves or feel he'd make it here, it's next best thing.

The Magic took a chance last summer dealing 3 not so-good 2nds

2024 via Denver
2026 least favorable of Detroit, Orlando or Milwaukee.
2028 Boston (if 46-60)

for the right to swap their 2026 FIRST for the least favorable of Phoenix and Washington's first.

That's looking like a deal that will net The Magic at least 10 spots in the first round come 2026.

This trade today makes those 2030 and 2031 2nds more valuable.

[three3d]

My BIGGEST problem with this one is we badly needed shooting and he freaking shot 42% from 3 last season. Not only did he shoot 42% from 3 but he also lead Kentucky in scoring at 20+ ppg, something not many guards have done under Calipari. He was definitely worth a look but we traded him to the team that also drafted shooting last season in Jordan Hawkins.

[jonbob17]

The Magic have 2 2nd rounders in each of the next 4 years. I would have traded pick 47 and 4 of those 2nds to move up and take Furphy or Filipowski. Because why not. They are never going to make them and they’re not going to turn them into anything better.

[yoyojw17]

People spewing hatred for the FO decision... When their decisions got us to where we are. #2 in the east at one point and we are far from the ceiling of this team as we were one of the youngest teams in the league. Don't get me wrong... I would have loved to trade up to get player x .. or pick Ulrich at #48.... But it is what it is... These moves could be helpful in the future and to be honest with you... I trust this front office. Their vision might not be as linear as everyone wishes .... But things continue falling into place.

[VFX]

We don’t have room for a 2nd rounder. We got guys on rookie deals and free agents to sign.

Schofield, Kevon Harris, Trevelin Queen, and Chuma Okeke arent going to be on the team next year, or shouldnt be. There is literally zero reason to punt on second round picks in an attempt to see if someone is better than literally any of these players on the roster.

I'll say this again for the people that don't seem to understand.

ORLANDO CANNOT AFFORD TO FORGO TAKING RISKS ON PLAYERS

This team is not Boston or Los Angeles. This team is a small market on par with OKC who gets their ass handed to them in player development by teams like Miami who find hidden gems and turn them into positive assets. There is no downside to drafting guys that have even a 1% chance at being capable starters down the road.

[three3d]

People spewing hatred for the FO decision... When their decisions got us to where we are. #2 in the east at one point and we are far from the ceiling of this team as we were one of the youngest teams in the league. Don't get me wrong... I would have loved to trade up to get player x .. or pick Ulrich at #48.... But it is what it is... These moves could be helpful in the future and to be honest with you... I trust this front office. Their vision might not be as linear as everyone wishes .... But things continue falling into place.

With a straight face how can you say you trust this front office?

[fendilim]

HahahHa

[three3d]

Lazy GM and front office = Lazy ownership

[VFX]

Some of you gobble up any possible excuse to recuse this FO from being devoid of attempting to mine the second round of possible talent. I'd rather they do it and just continue to draft busts in the second round if it means they are trying.

[VFX]

You would think we were a 20 win team with these comments. Forum is more miserable when we are good

What does this team making the playoffs have to do with skipping the second round every season?

It's the principle more than anything. Why do you feel the need to justify it every season regardless of the outcome?

Is Jeff Weltman smarter than Miami's FO or Boston's? The answer is no. They use their second round picks regardless of where they are ranked.

[BlueBalls]

And everyone, stop hating on Jeff Weltman over 2nd round picks.

Is that an official board rule?

[Skin]

And everyone, stop hating on Jeff Weltman over 2nd round picks.

It's not being honest with yourself if you love and endorse every Magic move. It comes to the point where it's disingenuous.

If they dealt it for cash, I wouldn't be happy.

I don't endorse every move either.

Can you imagine how frustrating it is to be a scout for the Magic? Long road trips, fast food diet, sleepless nights watching game tape, talking to coaches, friends, family.... only to beg for a second round pick to hit your pet cat and show your merit and never get a chance. Guaranteed there will be talent to come from this 2nd round but we never give ourselves a freaking chance. That's what you get with a GM who has a low IQ and unwillingness to look bad on putting his scouting skills to the test. Any Tom, Dick, or Harry could've landed us TdS. Just look at ESPN's Best Player Available tracker. Lol

[Howard Mass]

And everyone, stop hating on Jeff Weltman over 2nd round picks.

Is that an official board rule?

No, it is not.

Everyone is free to express their opinions.