2024 Draft Thread - Part III

[closg00]

We do not have any picks to make in round two, here is an updated list.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/nba/nba-draft-2024-second-round-time-order-best-available-players/5545012/?amp=1

[badinage]

Why is Brogdon still here?

[Nigel Tufnel]

Why is Brogdon still here?

Just a reminder that we have to pay someone enough to reach the salary floor, so unless you want to bump Poole or Kispert up to $60 million a year, we might as well keep Brogdon and Kuzma for awhile until we can net something worthwhile in return.

[doclinkin]

Or toughness. Statistically the guys they picked are soft as baby dumplings. I mean Carrington rebounds well for a PG. But he can't finish on the interior. Sarr is noted for being weak on the inside. Not great hands. No ferocity in rebounding. Poor % at the rim. And KGeorge is literally soft. Like doughy. In addition to rebounding poorly for a forward. And can't score at the rim. One thing consistent is that all of these guys tend to pass INSTEAD of attacking the interior. So it looks like they are team players who like to share the rock, when it's probably just that they're scared of contact. None of these guys rank high on FT attempts for their position.

I disagree with you about Bub. He's a baby faced 18 yr old...but he's B'More tough. Those rebounding numbers show that he's not afraid to battle with bigger men...as I'm sure he did on the playgrounds of Charm City.

Carrington grew something like 6 or 7 inches in the last couple of years. Once he realizes that his new superpower is his height and length--and he gets physically stronger--Bub will have no problem using his crafty ballhandling to get to the rim and FT line.

Yeah I said as much in the Carrington thread. I mean plenty of shorter guys from BMore have found ways to attack the interior. (Muggsy. Juan Dixon. Sam Cassell.). But no doubt he will improve in this regard, and some part of his notable mid-range scoring success (and low TO rate) is that he does know how to avoid contact. He finds the open spaces or creates it for himself. Looks to me like he watched a lot of Kobe to develop his game. Some of the footwork. That fadeaway.

I wish we had more proficient screeners on this team. And a true pick and roll big. And a mentor for our young players. Seasoned vets. Hell I wish we had Sam Cassell as our head coach. But Bub has a chance to be a good player, even a good pick. His selection is just tainted by how he was acquired. Not his fault.

[BearlyBallin]

Do we have a 2way contract available to use on some of these players that are not getting drafted? There are still a couple that could be interesting if they aren’t drafted.

[wewillnevertank]

Do we have a 2way contract available to use on some of these players that are not getting drafted? There are still a couple that could be interesting if they aren’t drafted.

I'm honestly shocked no one took a flyer on Justin Edwards. He was very underwhelming at Kentucky, but I would imagine there's still enough upside there to warrant a mid-second rounder.

[payitforward]

...I think what this trade shows is that the Wizards contending window is very far out. And Avdija could provide more value as a trade piece than as part of this team.

This makes perfect sense.

The only problem I have is that at 23 Avdija is still on the way up. His bargain contract will only become an even bigger bargain. Hence, it seems very likely that we could have gotten more for him at the next trade deadline. Maybe significantly more.

Now... if Carrington pans out to be a very good player, the trade looks a lot better. & maybe he will. & if he turns out to be a really really good player, well... then Dawkins takes the pot.

But, that hasn't happened yet, & I don't see Carrington as anything like a sure thing. No reason to see him that way -- here's hoping he gives us that reason.

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What would be a good return for Avdija? 2 first round picks, 2 second round picks. Do you devalue the other first round pick because it's so far out? ...

Of course you do. That's the way the world works. Future assets come at a discount off their current value. Or, to view it from the other direction, if you loan me a dollar & I don't have to pay you back until 2029, I expect to pay interest: i.e. to give you more back than a dollar.

[payitforward]

Long time lurker and Wizards fan. Will Dawkins'/the FO's draft philosophy is becoming clearer. They are seeking out guys who have had significant growth spurts, but started as guards. Typically this archetype develops their handle and feel for the game since they have to navigate taller players early on and then retain those skills as they grow. Anthony Davis is the best example of it working out. Not saying any of these guys are AD of course, but I see the vision.

I preferred Dadiet to George, but George was also on my wishlist. I then learned George grew from 5'10 to 6'8ish in a span of 3 years. Sarr and Bilal also had significant growth spurts. This is definitely resembling the OKC model of having positional size mixed with a high 'feel for the game' and multiple players with guard skills/handles to navigate the court. Having multiple ball-handlers is hell on a defense. The Celtics just showed how valuable it is to have.

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Good thinking! & now that you've come out from behind the tree, please keep participating! It's fun!

[payitforward]

^ I wouldn't be surprised if Kuz and Brogdon are both gone by the trade deadline.
How much we get for either of them is an open question but even though the
stats say Kuz is a below average player, someone will trade for him.

Again, none of this makes any sense.

If, as Aldridge reported, Deni was too good for a team that wants to win, like, 8 games, then why would we hold onto Kuzma and Brogdon? Why would we not ship them out this week?

It can't be in order to build their value, or to wait for the right time, because we've seen that they don't really care about trying to maximize value in a trade.

So, just do it. Out the door. Four second-rounders, whatever, a few ham sandwiches, who cares, but: just do it. Get them out of here.

If Dawkins or Winger ever, EVER, utters the word "veteran leadership in the lockerroom," I am done with this team.

Hey B -- my brother -- I didn't like the trade either. But, please don't go overboard, ok? Don't want you "done with this team," above all b/c it'd mean you were done with this board!

We've got 3 interesting rookies, & I'll be surprised if there isn't at least one more on our roster after tonight. & a guy signed undrafted too! It's the OKC way & the new (entirely new!) Wizards way!

[payitforward]

Just catching up -- hence the flurry of posts! Apologies....

I'm getting over my shock & counseling myself to accept the fact that we are in a completely new world. Personally, I want to make the most of it. Meanwhile, I hope Deni flourishes on the West Coast.

One way or another I feel like we'll wind up with a pick tonight. & that we'll sign someone undrafted as well. Keep moving!!

[NatP4]

Just catching up -- hence the flurry of posts! Apologies....

I'm getting over my shock & counseling myself to accept the fact that we are in a completely new world. Personally, I want to make the most of it. Meanwhile, I hope Deni flourishes on the West Coast.

One way or another I feel like we'll wind up with a pick tonight. & that we'll sign someone undrafted as well. Keep moving!!

Sorry, PIF. The draft is already over. They didn’t trade into the 2nd round.

[payitforward]

Just catching up -- hence the flurry of posts! Apologies....

I'm getting over my shock & counseling myself to accept the fact that we are in a completely new world. Personally, I want to make the most of it. Meanwhile, I hope Deni flourishes on the West Coast.

One way or another I feel like we'll wind up with a pick tonight. & that we'll sign someone undrafted as well. Keep moving!!

Sorry, PIF. The draft is already over. They didn’t trade into the 2nd round.

So I just realized -- nor have we signed an undrafted FA as of yet.

[closg00]

All the playoff teams used their SRP’s, the Pacers used 3. There were definitely guys worth taking a flyer on for a G-League team, or Two-way, the Wizards will get the leftovers per usual.

[doclinkin]

The Lakers took Bronny.
Spurs stole Furphy. Good fit, and his defense will be bearable with the nasty Castle/Wemby defense they can field.
GSW got Tristen Newton, Quinten Post 7' 3pt shooter, and Juan Nuñez. They're smart, as always.
Memphis got even more huge with Edey plus Chomche developing.
The Heat picking up Kel'El Ware plus Djurisic, two players that just need developing to live up to their talents.
A few teams got swiftly better I think.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Just finished watching the 2nd round. Had it on DVR and kept offline so I wouldn't see anything, hoping Wizards trade into the round somewhere. Dawkins pretty much implied they weren't done last night.

Nope, nothing. And then the broadcast turned into the Bronnie James show. Very disappointing.


Some interesting players not drafted... Flowers, Edwards, Hall to name a few.

[doclinkin]

I hope we snag baltimore kid Trentin Flowers

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I hope we snag baltimore kid Trentin Flowers

Nevermind, Flowers signed with Clippers.

Here's a tracker of undrafted...


https://hoopshype.com/lists/where-are-the-best-undrafted-players-in-2024-going-now/

[payitforward]

It appears that we haven't signed a single undrafted kid. I don't understand that.

[doclinkin]

It appears that we haven't signed a single undrafted kid. I don't understand that.

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